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I advocated this earlier this year, and I realize he may not want to leave his current gig, but I'd take Jordan Case as our next AD in a heartbeat. Guy bleeds green, knows how to deal with people with money, and can relate to players and coaches because of his playing days. But RV isn't going anywhere, so its just a pipedream.

I truly believe that Smatresk likes athletics--but he cannot remove RV as the AD because of the BOR and the UNT17. And the university President has to focus on so much other stuff, this isn't worth his political capital to burn thru with the BOR and administration, knowing it will probably cost him something of value, if not his job. Look, it is what it is. RV won here, folks. He rubbed the right BOR elbows and insulated himself with 17 very wealthy people who basically fund the program above what the BOR will do. I think the university lost in all of this, but that's not how they feel, since its about known costs and revenue streams, instead of opportunity costs/revenues lost. I'm just waiting for the RV PR announcement that the sections of Apogee and the Super Pit get named after the members of the BOR and the UNT17.

Lots of truth here...

I thought this Navy-UH game told us just how far away the best of the G5s are from us, the worst team in FBS. Guys, those two teams are light years ahead of us right now. Thankfully, we play two of the absolute dregs of FBS, SMU and Army, next season in OOC. I'm forever grateful to UTSA for starting their 4th and 5th string QBs when they came to town and lost to us by a TD in the 4th quarter. I pray we never see an 0-Fer season, because the two 1 win seasons we have endured in the last 8 have been amazingly awful. Speaking of which, since 2005, our program has had two one win seasons now, three two win seasons, two three win seasons, two four win seasons, a five win season, and a nine win season. If you wonder why TCU fans and many others think this is a dead-end job, it's because that span covers 4 head coaches in those 11 seasons, with a cumulative record of 36-97... thats what the new guy gets to jump head first into with the recruits, coaches, and parents, as well as what's left of this fanbase...and we haven't mentioned the idiot AD yet. Folks, it's gonna take a lot of time.

Tech fans are awful...the worst in these parts by miles. Baylor fans are the dumbest. Texas and SMU are the most arrogant... A&M has the most delusional fanbase in that they think they are better at football than they ever are. And UNT has the most apathetic fanbase in this region. But that's because they are smart enough to either see or figure out the BS they are fed by the powers that be to leave and follow someone else. That's actually pretty effing smart, if you ask me.

I've always said that the UNT 17 would have their own personalized sections at Apogee and at The Super Pit...today, apparently was buy one section, get two free...

I truly hope hope for the sake of the current fans, that the next coach is one you all will support. I think that will be very important and he will definitely need plenty of time to get this thing turned around...probably three years at a minimum, to be honest. That's how bad it is here right now. When you are the worst team in the FBS, you don't turn around in a year--see SMU this season. For me, I'll root for UNT from a distance, hoping the new coach can help the program improve in every aspect needed right now. But the AD getting to keep his job and make this hire just was my line in the sand. Maybe when RV retires, dies, or just finally quits, I will feel differently, but it's just too hard to spend the money and time on this with a family to raise, only to see bottom 20 results with no consequences for leading that losing for 15 years. It's just beyond depressing. But as I said, I just hope that the new coach is well-received by those that RV hasn't run off yet. If he isn't, he has no chance of rebuilding this into a .500 or better program eventually.

There will be much laughter and much head-shaking if this UNC position coach gets the job. I figured Applewhite was always a pipe dream anyway...

their coaches and parents know him very well...that's a huge influence right there Applewhite would be a steal--if you can get him here, you do it. Young, innovative, and very well-known. That would be a very un-RV type hire.

I just think you laid out every reason for why the fanbase needs to understand what lies ahead for UNT next season. Recruiting with such a short window for the new staff, installing an offense that should be built for today's game with a roster full of players built for the exact opposite kind of offense, and having no FBS QB on the roster doesn't add up to a big turnaround. Getting to 3 wins would be a huge improvement. Think Dodge's first year here, as well as Morris's first season at SMU.

I know that many of you hate us losing, but every stupid loss we endure is one more nail in the Benford Era coffin--and that's a win, make no mistake about it. This hire was bad from the start and it's gone downward from there, to down right putrid. It's killed the momentum of a program that took a years to build. That's the problem here. It was obvious in Year One and Year Two, yet here we are in Year Four. And the same idiot who brought this guy here will do the hiring for the next guy in the spring, all because 17 very successful businessmen have been given access to the program.

Its all relative--our job isn't garbage because of what we pay and where we are located, compared to a lot of our SBCUSA peers. Its garbage, if you compare it--wrongly, I might add--to P5 schools, just because its apples to oranges. Our history over the last 35 years is pretty much garbage--that has a lot to do with funding, facilities, scheduling, and conference affiliation in that timeframe. But we have rectified the funding part and the facilities, for sure. And the conference affiliation, while not great, is still the best we have ever had for football in the modern era. Scheduling is absolute hot garbage, though, and it affects every part of your program--recruiting to play at home, in today's world, against SMU, Army, FCS spares, and CUSA teams is tough enough, but when UTSA, Rice, and UTEP all play teams at home that are P5s, makes ours even worse. That, to me, would be correctable, with the right AD. So in that reality, our AD is pure garbage compared to any peer, just because his hires absolutely have sucked hugely in the main sports, while the OOC scheduling has been just brutal, considering that we have Apogee and The Super Pit as venues. The UNT head coaching job will be hard, no matter what, but it doesn't qualify as a garbage job. It might be more of a blue collar job, though. You better work hard, sell hard, and look past multiple sins of the university's leadership and its lack of fans. It equates to being a truck driver. You have to just take what you are given, fight all the issues that affect you (traffic, weather, lack of comfort, long hours), and keep your eyes on the task ahead to deliver the goods. Unfortunately, we have had coaches in the past 20 years that lost sight of their main job because all of the "issues" that are inherit with the UNT job became too much to handle and they eventually fell apart. Except for Dodge--he was given keys to the 18-wheeler, even though he was only experienced at driving school buses. Ironically, he was the one coach here that didn't succumb to the "issues" around the job, but failed because he didn't know how to drive the truck. As we like to say, only at UNT...

Willie Fritz will be coaching at a P5 school after Georgia Southern. If not, it will be at UH after Herman gets hired away. Iowa State, for example will pay double or more than we can, just from P5 money. UH is willing to pay double what we can to keep Herman. Kendal Briles is 50/50 to me. He may want to get out from underneath Daddy' shadow, to blaze his own trail, or he may know that he has the Baylor job when Dad retires if he stays as his OC. Its hard to say what Baby Briles thinks right now... In my opinion, Jinks at Tech or Thomsen at ASU probably view the UNT opportunity as big steps up on their career path from where they are right now and both are used to running programs as head coaches, even if it was high school and D-II football. Once you are a head coach, I think its always in your blood to want to lead again, if possible. What RV thinks about this next hire is unknown, other than we know he has said he wants an offensive-minded coach who is not currently a FCS or lower head coach. That doesn't seem that smart to me, but it is what I have come used to with him. I do know this--Kendal Briles better be a tougher SOB than what he appears to be right now. Because the OC job at Baylor, with regards to recruiting players, is far easier than it will be here. Maybe he would be able to make the transition just fine, but the two programs right now are light years apart in just about every way. If he isn't a tough SOB, this job will eat him up if he is thinking his name alone will change things up here. Whoever comes here better come ready to roll up their sleeves and fight hard. And the fans here better be prepared for a couple more years of tough football to endure as the new coach builds up the roster in a way that matches his offense.

This is exactly why we lost confidence in the university...

There aren't many like you and your family...as proven by the 80% empty seats around you at the Super Pit most nights. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I can't argue with much of what you say, but Cumbie was given much credit from the DFW and national media for opening up the TCU offense--that Patterson sought him out specifically to open up their attack and get Boykin more opportunities to make plays. Maybe Meacham was really the engineer of it all, but I've never really heard people mention him the way that they do Cumbie as being the architect of the offensive renaissance that TCU has had under Gary Patterson. All that said, I doubt that Cumbie will come here or Dooley, for that matter. I think Cumbie will wait out a higher profile opening, especially if Tech's job ever becomes open again. Dooley may just be perfectly content as an NFL coach going forward, too. Now Jinks, he being a position coach at Tech, after a long successful run as a High school coach, he probably looks at this as his next step up the ladder in his career.

I think Cumbie has proven that he can go out on his own and bring in an offensive system to a new school that had a different setup previously and make it work big time. Briles hasn't shown that yet--maybe he will, but Cumbie has already proven he can do it. Dooley had success at La Tech, enough to get them turned around and get the Tennessee job. The UT job proved to be too much for him, no doubt, but if La Tech fans complain about him, its pure sour grapes. No way someone doesn't leave a G5 school for a P5 payday, especially at a school as poor as La Tech. I just don't hold the Tennessee thing against him too much when considering our opening, as well as using his connections to the Cowboys for recruiting purposes. That said, I realize that he may very well have zero interest in our opening or most college jobs right now. I don't think the powers at be even remotely want RV gone. I think they either adore him for access (UNT 17) or just think he's a fine AD because he keeps us within budget (BOR). I was wrong about McCarney getting fired before the 4th year of his contract ran out, so maybe this will be different, too. But the way the UNT 17 have come to RV's defense, whether it has been on here, because of the banner flying around, or with Smatresk, its pretty clear that the BOR doesn't care what they do, as long as those 17 big donors pay for it over and above what the university provides. Smatresk was my last hope--thinking that somehow, he would want more from the AD than what he has seen so far and that he would maybe get a BOR member or two to give him the opportunity to bring in someone else, just to rest things at the athletic department. But it either appears that Smatresk doesn't care enough to make a change or the fight to get him removed is just too much because of the BOR and the UNT 17. Either way, until RV leaves, a lot of us just won't come back again.

BTW, it seems preposterous to imagine this, but had Benford actually been even a decent head coach with the team he inherited here, I have zero doubt that he would have been hired at his alma mater in Lubbock. RV hiring Benford was always going to be lose-lose--if he won (HAHAHAHA!!!), he would be gone to Tech or somewhere like that, if he lost, we were stuck with him for 4 years. Unfortunately, for us, the recruiting assistant coach for Marquette has shown a complete ineptness for x's and o's (Shocking!!), so we have enjoyed his losing for 3+ years, in front of a Super Pit that rarely gets a quarter full.

If UTA continues to have an awesome year--and beating Ohio State and Memphis on the road is unbelievably awesome--Cross will be coaching at Big XII/SEC team next year. If I were a booster at Okie Lite or Arkansas, Cross would be on my call list come March if their current coaches don't see any improvement.

The bowls are just a matter of supply and demand. I think that as long as they can be run at a profit for networks and the bowls themselves, as well as being viewed favorably by the city that hosts them, it won't be going away.

RV happened...and continues to happen...

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Look, whoever comes here, under the visionary leadership of the current athletic director and the dynamic support of the BOR and UNT 17, will have to dig out of a hole that is probably even worse than what Dodge had to dig out of under the Dickster. Both the Dickster and Mac left the next coach a roster full of offensive players built on running the ball 2/3rd of the time and throwing passes no more than two yards down the field on the few pass plays we ran. Dodge's offense was able to make Daniel Meager have a career day against an atrocious SMU team that still beat us in his first year, but that fell apart quickly, to the point that we put Vizza in as QB and he got his brains beat in for the next year and a half to the point of quitting. Almost amazingly, the next coach will inherit an even WORSE situation at QB here when he gets here. I truly believe that not one of the QBs on this roster will start next year, unless someone gets hurt. I think Greer, Means, and Chumley will be gone, and Damarcus Smith is a total question mark on whether he can stay eligible and if he can even handle competing for the starting job again, but with guys that can actually play QB at a FBS level. It won't surprise me one bit if the next coach doesn't immediately got to Kevin Dillman and tell him that he wants him to change to QB right now and see if he can win the job right away, just to buy time until you can begin recruiting a QB, which won't be until next year's recruiting class at the earliest. I don't have any earthly idea who will get this job. I like the resumes of Lincoln Riley, Chris Thomsen, and Sonny Cumbie a lot. I don't think the RB coach at Texas Tech resonates up here like people think it would--seriously, he'd be better at UTSA than he would here, because of his history there and the fact that their recruiting is very centered on Central and South Texas, where his name is Dodge-esque down there. Just don't think he is a good fit. Same with Kendal Briles--I think he is nothing more than a daddy's boy, someone who won't succeed without daddy next to him. He reminds me of the football-version of Pat Knight, who was a colossal failure at Tech as the head coach. Withers at JMU intrigues me, because he is a winner and knows how to lead, but has no connections to this state and our situation within recruiting circles and with an apathetic university. I like the idea of Derek Dooley a lot, too. As a matter of fact, I'd probably peg Dooley as my first pick, followed by Chris Thomsen, Sonny Cumbie, and the Riley/Withers. Honestly, all of them have their plusses/minuses, but we have no idea how much interest we have in any of them or they have in us, beyond sending in a resume or using us to get a raise in income from their current employer. But we do know this--the guy hiring them has more than proven that he has no idea how to find a winner here, nor how to help the situation thru better scheduling, promotion, and raising revenue and membership for the MGC. And because of that, whoever takes this job will get setup for failure, just as the predecessors have been. It hasn't mattered if its SBC or CUSA, Fouts or Apogee, or if the head coach has been conservative or aggressive on offense--the one constant has overseen an amazing amount of suck for 15 years. To expect anything different with this hire is just whistling past the graveyard, in my opinion. And its why so many of us cannot understand--or put up with--the continued support for the AD from the people who control the situation within the BOR and the UNT17. Even the UTSA spare poster on here, as well as friends and colleagues who have any knowledge of the AD situation here, understands how completely inept he is and how pathetic it is that he gest to keep his job in the aftermath of what has occurred here, both in the short-term AND the long-term. When you have a conference mate come on here and post about the reality that our "win" over them here, while stinging to them, may actually be a win for the rest of CUSA, if it means RV keeps his job, should tell you how poorly he is looked at by the very few outsiders that even know North Texas has a football team called the Mean Green, not the NTSU Armadillos. At this point, its just a sad reality--until real change occurs above RV, its impossible to see how things will measurably change here, no matter who we hire.

This game may not see 1000 people in attendance if the weather is a cold steady rain in the 40s.

BTW, how many seats in The Super Pit had actual butts-in-seats yesterday evening?