untjim1995

Because we basically crushed the football program in the 80s and 90s when the college football landscape completely changed...

Especially if that caller ID showed the call was coming from the evil, racist suburbs of DFW...

That priority may have buried our chances of ever being considered as anything more than a low level G5 program. If we had followed up 2013 with a decent season and an increase in attendance, even still being in CUSA would have our name out there as a program that the MWC or AAC might want one day. Instead, we fall apart in 2014, keep falling in 2015 to the point where they both caused us to get crushed in the worst loss in modern college football history, and finish in just horrific shape, all while the rest of college football keeps looking forward. It's possible that the McCarney/Todd Dodge combo has insured our place in college football's landscape.

In other breaking news, it appears that we need oxygen to breathe...

To me, the real wake-up call on how poorly our recruiting was going showed up in the La Tech game here in 2014. We just got our asses handed to us and Josh Greer was our starter. Our defense was small and just couldn't get off the field--this was a season removed from a complete butt-kicking of LT in Ruston...That was when I realized our recruiting situation was in terrible shape. i will say this--my client whose son is the head coach at Frisco Lone Star has said that Littrell and Harrell have been full of energy and positivity about our future...last year, he told me that the HS coaches liked Mac, but it was personal, not professional--they knew his offensive strategy was never going to get kids interest to come play here. So far, SL is making a solid impression. The big question they all ask, though, about us is if you can truly build a winner here...it sounds as if a lot of TX HS coaches have their doubts.

You mean you didn't like seeing Andrew McNulty and Josh Greer get one last chance to spare everyone to death in a MG uniform? Two worst QBs I have seen wear a MG uniform in 15 years...

If RV was still able, we would have PV A&M and Texas Wesleyan on our schedule in the mid 2020s...

UH decided that sports mattered a long time ago. In their revenue sports, especially as a SWC member, they made fans of students and alumni, many of whom come back around when they are winning. Since we beat them in 1975, we have pretty much gone in complete opposite directions. Our alumni don't give because we never gave them a reason to care--we literally told them that the university didn't care about athletics for decades by dropping and staying down at the I-aa level, then coming back up to I-A only because it paid better to get whored out at Power Schools. Even now, with the improved attention that athletics are getting here at UNT, it's far below what UH gets. We aren't on equal footing with them , just as UH isn't on equal footing with A&M or UT...

They'll bring about 400-500 fans besides their band.

But Ben Gooding says this is unacceptable, so obviously Vegas needs to raise its views and expectations of our program. Meanwhile, every outside voice is screaming that we are one of the three worst programs in the country because of the hole McCarney left us in. 2-10, wins over Butt Cookman and UTSA.

Do any of those schools average about 40% of stadium capacity for their home games against the FCS teams, too? Oh wait...they are P5 giants, not a pissant G5 that let their AD stay in place about 5 years too long, as evidenced by the stupid FCS teams we have on our future schedule...

If we win 3 games next year, Littrell will probably be a stud coach for a long time. This team has absolutely no idea how to win, nor does it have the defense or the size to compete with everyone on this schedule except SMU, Butt Cookman, UTSA, and UTEP, two at home and two on the road. That's what you have as potential wins and I don't see us winning more than two of them. If we do, Littrell's time in Denton will be no longer than 2018 because a higher program will buy him away.

I'm telling you all that Texas Wesleyan will be on our schedule at some point if they become FCS...guaranteed

As I have said and done, I'll never step foot in Apogee for one of these wastes of time. FCS games literally provide zero to what the program needs. Seriously, why did we replace decrepit, toilet-bowl Fouts? We can't even get a home-and-home with Iowa or Mizzou with a brand new stadium...so much fail. At any rate, you all can enjoy Texas Southern, Nicholls State, Portland State, Butt Cookman, Lamar, Incarnate Word, Abilene Christian, Houston Baptist, and Rhode Island. Those games either tell us nothing about our team or we embarras ourselves--plus, we give away money that we apparently need desperately to bring in these teams. UNT90 is so right--scheduling is the single worst thing this AD does...and that is really saying something.

And how exactly are you going to get our program to move upward to the collection you are talking about? Because it's pretty obvious that we are blocked in that regard. The AAC ain't calling on us because they already have this market. The MWC doesn't have this market, but they are waiting to see what happens with the Big 12 and looking at getting TCU back, as well as Baylor and or Tech. If none of them, there are already rumors of UTEP and Rice being members out west with them. TFLF/HFS/Mailbox is right. That ship sailed off a long time ago--we weren't even near the loading dock when it left. Athletics here is only FBS still because of that student fee. The alumni don't give enough to athletics to change this. If that fee ever goes away, this goose is completely cooked. The regional conference is the way forward for those of us who have been left behind in the lower echelon of the G5s. We can compete more on a level playing field and play teams that are more well-regarded than we did when the I-aa fiasco occurred in the early 80s. We all may want to believe we should be in a conference with old SWC teams, not named Rice, but nothing suggests we will ever be given that chance--ever...

The big question that UNT's administration probably has no idea about is if the program will get the support it gets now if the lower G5s are officially relegated to being a non-FBS team by the college football powers. Most of their media already want the schism to occur, as do their fanbases, who get strung along for season ticket packages featuring OOC games against non-power teams in both the G5 and FCS. I would love to see us higher up in the G5s, but reality just doesn't really mesh with that. The MWC has no Texas teams, but it has a lot of options that are ahead of us on that list if they were going to expand over here, whether it was with Tech, Baylor, and TCU or UTEP, Rice, and UTSA. The AAC has their local team in SMU already and that ends the discussion right there, as well as also having UH. If they ever added another Texas market, it would certainly be one of the Big XII Texas leftovers or UTSA. Of course, if UTSA ever left, Texas State would fill in ASAP for them, which would be just as well for the rest of CUSA right now. The Big XII is your next realignment domino--either thru expansion or thru destruction (or both)--that will fall within the next decade, causing more upheaval. When the Big XII gets complete with its plans, which will be no later than 2025, that should be when the Power Leagues make their official move forward. I think that as long as we are playing conference teams in the state and region, even if its lower, we will be ok.

Imagine this cover with Dan McCarney looking over Andrew McNulty last year...with the exact same look as Dodge and that QB. It would be titled "How do you throw a ball more than two yards beyond the LOS?" or "This is how we did it at Iowa"...

I know that when BC comes here this September, things are gonna get real in Denton...oh wait...

The problem is that absolutely no one in Texas cares one lick about F_U, Charlotte, or ODU. And vice versa. Plus, it costs too much to travel to play them. You get nothing when they come here. At least playing UTEP, UTSA, La Tech, and other regional competition brings people here when we play them. ULL and Arky State brought people back in the SBC days, as well. Texas State would, as well.

They will if it gives them the extra billion dollars from their tv contract that supposedly exists if they add 4 teams...

Marshall really does belong in the MAC. They are regionally closer to those schools and have a history with them. They don't need to be in a conference with teams in Texas or Louisiana. Same with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, FAU, and FIU.

I'm gonna wear a sweater vest and grow a mustache...

Yes, KSU was our last game ever at Fouts

Absolute truth here... Butt hurt is the term that he throws around a lot, but it really shows low class and immaturity, which in and of itself, isn't unusual on a fanboard. But it doesn't keep most of us from being embarrassed at his posting. One thing about UNT is that being in Texas and surrounded by SWC schools that always looked down on us and wouldn't ever accept us as a potential conference mate for decades has just created the unfounded belief that we should be above being in a conference with Arkansas State, Louisiana-Lafayette, or Texas State because we are bigger and serve a larger metro area, that instead we "deserve" to be AAC members because of these supposed advantages. But one thing that ASU, LT, ULL, USM, and others enjoy is that they are all schools in towns that love athletics first and foremost. That gets money into the coffers quickly. We have never had that mindset before and it will take a long time to try and convince our students, faculty, and alumni to look at athletics the way you all do. And that's where the size of the school and the market we are in really don't help us nearly as much as people wish to believe.

Yep, Terry Holland was right then, and it's ESPECIALLY right now for CUSA 3.0 and SBC 2.0.