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Clemson is ahead of Troy at halftime, 13-10.

UGA ahead 20-14, late in the 3rd.

At the half in Athens, 10-7 Dawgs. FCS Nicholls State was the worst opponent I've ever watched us play, just two years ago. I guess their new coach has got things straightened out from when they came to Denton last time.

They've been known to throw batteries, bottles, etc... Trashy fanbase for a school that should be thankful that UT keeps them around...

FIU getting murdered at home by Maryland, 41-7 in the 4th. Too bad we don't have them on our CUSA East schedule this year.

Fair enough

Ben, I apologized to you...just accept it.

You are right, I shouldn't have put in the word "idiot"--I think I let my frustration with a few of the younger posters get the best of me. I agree with your last sentence, too. But this poll shows what most people around college football thinks of us currently. Look, I love the Littrell hire--I think he has everything we could ask for in a brand new head coach--young, energetic, bright, good family man, etc...What I fear around here, from reading so many posts is that there are a few folks here who have expressed views that we should be winning right away, that we should have beaten SMU, except for a few plays. Well, it may be true, but SMU whipped us for the most part--and they aren't good. They just happen to be further along on the rebuilding process. I just don't want the fanbase to get upset when we are losing a lot his year--we don't have the talent and what is here was recruited for a polar opposite offensive system. You sound like you understand this. But others get riled up because some other FBS school in the state won a game against a MAC school in 2OTs. Well, that other team may have lost scholarship players, too, but my guess is that their new coach didn't bring in an offense that was 180 degrees different from their previous coach, either. Nor did that team suffer a loss so catastrophic that the entire team's character had to come into question. Sorry for the insulting words earlier in the thread--I'll work to stay above that. And that even applies to Ben Gooding...

This. And if you are playing SMU every other year in Dallas, you can use that game as a pseudo-home game while playing a team in OOC at HOME that people want to see.

I've never seen a poster say they expect a certain number of wins, then not say who we will get those wins from. Its ok, if you're wrong, its an internet forum. Hell, if we win 3 or more games, the posts about Seth Littrell becoming a damn near legendary coach around here will never cease from me. I want Littrell to be our next Hayden Fry--and I think its reasonable to believe he can do that-- if he can get highly recruited Texas HS talent to come here and buy into his system. Its ok to recognize that we are basically kneeling on ashes right now, trying to even stand up again--its not going to make you less cool for being a UNT fan or that you'll look bad for admitting it.

You expect us to win 4 games this year, according to your post. We have 11 games left. How is that not part of the equation? I think its a big part of why we are considered last on this list--they are telling the college football world that they don't expect to see us win against any FBS teams on the schedule. I figure we have two games we win this year, BC and UTSA, with Army being hopefully competitive. Again, who are the 4 wins you expect us to get this season going to be against?

Aldo, tell me who the 4 opponents are that we beat this year that you are expecting us to beat...

Announced will be around 17,500--unless rain get In the way.

Whether we do or not, the point is to explain to homers on here that think we are going to win 6 or more games that we are still the worst FBS program in the country. Instead, we get hit with this is just an excuse for Seth Littrell to use as a crutch. The man has 68 Effing Scholarship players back from the worst team in the country last year that suffered the worst loss in modern college football history. And since Texas State beat Ohio in 2OTs, we are now supposed to expect more like Texas State? Guess what--Texas State would kill us right now...because they have FBS talent on their team across the board, even if it's SBC level. We don't...and Littrell knows it.

I think so, too. I feel like it will be a close win for the good guys, but probably settled very late. It seems funny to say this so early, but this will probably the biggest game of the year for the team and for Littrell. You lose, and 0-12 is a probability. You win, you move forward and you can tell recruits that we are moving upward from the depths of 2015.

Apparently not much at all, based off of the last 50 years or so.

Yeah, man!! We better get to 6 wins or Seth Littrell better GTFO!!

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/cbs/128

I can tell you that you should feel re-assured about playing the CUSA West teams--we might lose one or two along the way, but I am failry certain that most of CUSA West--and the SBC Western schools--will be the ones we are competing against for the long term. I really do believe Rice will move up to the AAC if/when UH leaves, but I don't see the other Texas schools in CUSA leaving anytime soon.

Maybe you should just go follow Texas State... Please...

They CHOSE West Virginia over Louisville--they didn't wait on them, they mistakenly chose WVU over them. Both senators and congressmen tried to sell both to the Big XII, but WVU won the battle. But in the end, Louisville won the war, getting into their dream league that is FAR more stable than the Big XII.

Littrell really is a breath of fresh air. He knows what he is dealing with, both from a personal standpoint, where he is leaning on the fly to be a head coach, and from a personnel standpoint, where he knows he has to fix the mindset of a locker room that has been beaten down by losing and seriously upgrade the talent here to fit his system. He's not a guy that will talk in circles to try and deflect from the fact that we aren't good right now--not even close. He will be a straight-shooter about everything, to his team, the media, and to the fans.

He's referring to the folks on this site. He lives in a fantasy world where he believes that UNT should have gone 8-4 last year with the worst QB setup in the entire FBS, which was completely obvious going into the season, and now believes that a team with 68 scholarship players should go 6-6 against a schedule that is light years harder than where we can compete with right now with the lack of talent around here and having a brand new coach learn on the fly.

Don't get me wrong--I have dreamed of us being in the MWC for over a decade--not the WAC, but the MWC. And all I ever got back, whole-heartedly, was that the MWC was too far west, that the Big West was awful, that we like close travel to see us play games in CUSA, yada-yada-yada... Before we became the absolute worst program in FBS over the last decade, and back when we had a promising basketball team under Johnny Jones, I always believed we had the perfect selling point to the MWC to travel with TCU or just replace them when they left. I've always said this, but it is going to take a conference leader who sees us for our potential to bring something to their conference from a market standpoint and a competitive standpoint, beyond what we have really ever shown. So far, since 1995, only the Big West, the SBC, and CUSA ever have seen us as worth admittance. And those three conferences are like saying you got hired by KMart after Montgomery Ward's went under, then got hired by Sears.

We got into CUSA because of exactly one reason--SMU left. Not one other reason--CUSA needed DFW still, so we stepped right into the opening to replace SMU. Its exactly why we aren't ever going to the AAC. When we were in the Sun Belt, SMU being in CUSA was enough to end any discussion of us joining. They had the market covered already for TV. It sucks, I hate it, but I recognize that SMU has more name recognition for these conferences, as well as the $$$ to keep their best interests in play. Last time we could have gotten into our dream setup, the old CUSA that had SMU, UH, Tulsa, Tulane, Rice, etc..., SMU decided to publicly back La Tech and their pissant TV market over us. Instead, CUSA went ahead and invited UTEP, a market they didn't have a team in, but had a decent to strong following in the two main revenue sports, as well as solid facilities.