untjim1995

If the owners of this stie didn't need the visits/posts from you, you'd be gone...which is extremely pathetic on many, many levels.

Imagine being in a power conference and having a fan troll the website of a G5 that you don’t play and go to the website and troll all day…what an existence. Shoot me if I’m ever close to being that pathetic.

The really, really stupid people are the fans who pay for a high priced coach at a school that gets poached by p4s as soon as anyone, coach or player, shows a hint of ability.

Now it’s here to stay…it’s the future and only $$$ will let you into the club. Until the really powerful teams split off.

The reality is that money talks. They have it. We don’t. Our advantage is in enrollment and alumni, but they just don’t care about our teams, much less the university. We can’t compete with the money or the prestige of those power programs.

All 750 people at the stadium on gamedays will appreciate that

When this news came out, that Marshall couldn’t play in the game, I figured one of two things would happen: 1.) La Tech would get in the game for attendance purposes. or 2.) The I-Bowl would go ask the closest SEC school with a losing record to come play, like Mississippi State, just to get a bigger chance at an attendance boost.

Hopefully, we can pillage Sam’s defense and bring a lot of them here.

I mean, they’ve had decades to back us and never have, so I think those CoC voices, old and new, are more correct…

I’ve been told many times that they have zero interest in being a FedEx-like sponsor of UNT sports, that they don’t want to make Dentonites feel like they’re choosing to support UNT more than TWU and that they know most Dentonites don’t care for our athletic programs. That’s straight from Chamber of Commerce members, past and present. Denton is the single worst place for a college football team to exist.

It'd be nice if #3 was actually winning on the field against decent teams...but here we are

Once the Supreme Court allowed the NIL and portal to be the rule, the P2s and their networks were ready to pounce. So now we have CFB in the hands of the power brands, both conferences, and networks run the sport and made the rest of us their bitches.

You may not know this, but Mattress Mac gave us a million dollars for the football program back in 2006. He and Darrell Dickey were apparently close and Coach got him to donate. Well, we fired Dickey, as the program really began to fall back. That pissed off Mattress Mac, so he agreed to only let the money go if we named the practice fields after Darrell Dickey, a coach who went 42-64. After this, he has never shown even a hint of interest in our athletic program ever again. I suspect that he will never give another cent to our program.

Harbaugh was considered "too costly" by Gretchen Bataille, our President at the time. He basically used us for interview experience and got the Stanford job. RV basically realized that to keep his job, as always, he just had to stay in budget, so he hired Todd Dodge from Southlake Carroll, who brought over his coordinators from the high school to be our coordinators. The good news was that Dodge didn't cost us too much, so we fired him after he was deemed affordable to let go, as it only cost us $325k to fire him, after his spectacular 6-37 record. And thank goodness we didn't fire him after his third season, or else that $325k we saved by letting him coach again for a 4th season got us one extra win for Coach Dodge and it allowed us to have our best season since 2006, at 3-9. RV got to keep his job as AD for another 9 years after hiring Dodge in 2007. Even though he hired the worst football coach in our history (Dodge), the worst women's basketball coach in our history (Shanice Stephens), and a men's basketball coach that absolutely destroyed a program that had been in the NCAA Tournament and had a great 5* recruit herein exactly one season (yet still got 5 years to coach). He was only let go after the 17 boosters he had fleeced for years to pay for access to our program decided that paying off the contract of Dan McCarney for over $2 million immediately following the worst loss in modern college football history on Homecoming against an FCS program in Portland State 66-7 was too much to swallow and eventually saw him leave in the spring of 2016. No matter how frustrated anyone is with our athletic department right now, its light years better than it was back then.

What will you do to celebrate winning a bowl game?

This is where the G5s and FCS need to go. Contracts for NIL, just like you have contracts for coaches. If you leave for the portal, you owe the $$$ back for the contract not fulfilled, including cost of attendance, stipends, and the remaining NIL. The NIL is something this old guy doesn't like, but I get it and accept it. The portal is my line in the sand. As long as it stays as it is, my interest and support of the sport has dwindled considerably. I'm not alone--and my generation of men are the ones who have disposable income and resources that are now being used in different ways. College football had been trending in the wrong direction for me for awhile, particularly in value for money spent and time spent at a game. But at least I knew that the kids made a commitment to stay at UNT for the majority of their college career. Following Mason Fine was incredible as a fan. He is non-duplicable in today's world, as he would get bought by anyone else up the food chain after one season of doing anything of note on the field. I recognize that the reality is that UNT and the rest of the G5s will just accept their place under the table of the P4s and fight for scraps and crumbs. And its why my decision to walk away from attending games in 2023 has been the best financial decision I've made in years.

Exactly. Over the last 61 years, UCLA, UConn, Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Villanova, Indiana, MIchigan State, Florida, Louisville and NC State have finished #1 at the end of the season 52 times. Then, you have a school like Michigan that won a title to add to their two football titles. That's 12 teams in hoops only, then add in the 15 teams that have won multiple titles in football. UTEP, Marquette, Georgetown, UNLV, Arkansas, Arizona, Maryland, Syracuse, Virginia, and Baylor are the ones who won one title. UTEP is the clear outlier (from 1965), but all of the other teams listed have all gone to the Elite Eight or farther in other tournaments to balance out their title. Quite honestly, the entire NCAA could cover about 40 schools and get all of the champions of their two main sports. But its schools like A&M that have such giant football programs and money that they will always be included in any kind of setup of top tier programs, even with no championships in these two sports.

To further back you up, since over the last 60 years, there are exactly 20 programs that have won a NCAA Football Championship via the AP, then the BCS Championship, and the current playoff title. Of those 20, 2 are complete outliers--BYU in 1984 and Colorado in 1991. Three schools, Pitt, Tennessee, adn Auburn each won a title in this time frame but has won titles in the decade's past. The other 55 titles have been won by 15 programs. Alabama, Georgia, Florida, FSU, Miami, Clemson, Penn State, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, LSU, Texas, and USC. Obviously, others can claim a UPI/Coaches' Poll title, such as Washington, Georgia Tech, Arkansas, etc...but the main title holders are listed above. When it's all said and done, I expect that the future culling of the top end of college football to be as little as 24 schools or up to 48. It will be the top end of programs that are in these big conferences. So, if you are Rutgers, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, other middle or smaller B1G/SEC programs. most of the northern ACC schools, almost all of the Big 12, and many others will be playing at a different level than they currently do...and it will be glorious to see. LEt them go.

You know, when UTEP has had a good team, which isn’t often, the Sun Bowl will sell out. We still haven’t sold out our 30k stadium yet…

What you’ll find out is that you care more about winning football than the university does…everything here is based on the known costs of having a football program. Nothing more, nothing less, when it comes to how it’s run.

We are basically a JUCO for the P4s now.

And, just as I always said, the political system at all levels would protect their investors…hint, we ain’t an investor, nor are we an investment.

You can hope in one hand and $hit in the other…see which one fills up faster

The NCAA has the cover of following law made by the Supreme Court ruling on NIL/portal. This is the reality of our situation. Can’t compete financially with the top 80 programs in the country, but can’t get interest from people to attend or support us playing at a level that befits our budget. As it turns out, only focusing on growing enrollment, while churning out degreed alumni who are not in high income arenas, and focusing on being a “value” and being apathetic to sports at the administrative levels does not help a program compete against schools we care about and have heard of…who knew?

UTSA has a giant advantage of us and others in the AAC. They are in a pro market with no pro football team, a huge city with a strong civic pride—like a bigger version of Fort Worth. Denton will NEVER be this for UNT. You can try to make them do it or believe they’ll want to do it, but they’ll just disappoint you.