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The ESPN radio show for Univ. of KY basketball said last week that Norman, OK is the new Starkville of the SEC for basketball game day experience. They said that even with $1 beer and hotdogs, OU couldn't entice a descent crowd against the Wildcats and one fan even threw a full beer can at a player. UK had enough fans to make it sound like a home game. Even OU is struggling to get it right. I attended UNT/OU football game in 1991 & that it was an excellent experience, however. The OU fans were welcoming and hospitable so maybe it's just basketball. Also, Wren lives in West Virginia now. I can't name one good reason to live in WV & I live next door in KY. Denton is a far better place. Money isn't going to fix the flaws there either. Perhaps he can move on to a better place one day and that is his plan.

Losing to UTSA at home is an atrocious loss for UNT. This team could have maybe cracked the top 25 and now UNT has to win the AAC to get into the NCAA tourny. Up here in KY, when UK loses games like this there is hell to pay for the head coach. And I mean hell. Losing at basketball isn't tolerated here and NT should take the same stance. We have tolerated losing for too long. I don't accept this loss. Inexcusable to lose to a 9-11 team at home on a Saturday night. Just ridiculous.

Thanks for sharing, Ross. Wish I lived in Denton instead of 800 miles away!

Heard stories back in the 80s (I was a student at NTSU) about SWC officials and some verifiable direct evidence in 1988. But the officiating looked okay to me in the 78 UT/NTSU game. UT got called for a face mask and Unec roughness calls at key moments of the game. UT's defense looked really good. They were big and physical. NTSU's kicking game really sucked. There were some less than 30 yard punts and a missed (very short) FG in the '78 game. Really liked to see the NTSU cheerleaders so fired up on the sideline. Just wow. Thanks for sharing NT80.

Roth IRAs are good in that your investment gains are not taxable when withdrawn later. But you can only contribute $8,000/year max. A 401K is $30,000/year max. 401K plans are typically not run well with only average offerings and high fees. But private sector employees have little else to save and invest in for retirement. If an employer offers nothing, then what does that say about an employer? How much the employer spends on a 401K plan is public record. They spend surprisingly little. College football money has been manipulated in a similar way, with coaches & ADs receiving outsized salaries while players received little. This imbalance is the reason college football is in its current state.

And I have worked for companies that don't offer even a 401K, much less a pension! I would think that no 401K is very uncommon in the DFW metroplex. Yes, I call it the ZERO 1K. And I was a corporate level manager at one time with nothing! The job market is definitely broken here in KY (I still have no 401K) but at least you can readily find employment with a 401K plan down there to help build retirement funds tax free. I do think the employer owes the employee a 401K at a minimum for being allowed to operate in the world's only super power country. That same working model is what was happening in college football though. Offer the players almost nothing until the system self-destructs. And here we are, an oligarchy type college football system unfolding. Even SMU $$ can't crack this system now. For the record, I think SMU is a very good school.

I was one of a few hundred UNT fans to attend this game. As bad as that defense was, we still had some size and talent back then.

But I am seeing this kind of behavior in the private sector job sector too as I am sure you are as well. There seems to be something going on and a lot of folks have shifted to a very opportunistic mind set.

Well, I do think Eric Morris is a winner, and I have confidence in him for the future of NT football. A young coach that understands young men and places an exciting brand of football on the field might just work if Coach Morris can improve our defense. NT had some close losses to some good football programs this year and he only really crapped the bed against Texas Tech. Coach Morris has my official support.

You have to admit, SMU looked really strong in the 2nd half against Clemson. This game was also played just 2.5 hrs. from Clemson which is a little unfair. If the game were played in Texas Stadium, maybe SMU would win.

Do Longhorn fans consider A&M their rival? I always thought UT (Texas) fans thought of OU as their bitter rival. I think the so-called rivalry is something cooked up by A&M fans personally. OSU keeps Ryan Day but it's hard to argue against firing a coach with $200M+ football budget and losing to a 7-5 Michigan team in Columbus.

Wow ! The Mean Green van fire pic looks so real ! AI is so amazing now.

The coaches caused the NIL issue in the first place with their outsized salaries and ridiculous employment contracts. And you better believe these AD's and coaches all are in on it and look after each other's financial interest. The players saw this and said "screw it" I'm getting paid too. How many of you on GMG have an employment contract or make what these clowns do a year? If you add up all the players and coaches and staff, what is that? Like 150 people? Even Ohio State's annual budget is only $215 million. In the business world, managing $200/million/year and 150 people isn't that big a deal and you certainly won't be compensated like a college football coach. This system is rigged! I say that coaches should be at will employees like the rest of us, now that they screwed up College Football.

I guess I misspoke, because I meant ULL would be more interesting. But UNT and BGSU have never met, so kind of interesting from that standpoint. I am not so sure we can take any bowl eligible team lightly.

21% according to Copilot.

A hard "no" from me playing WKU again. Please tell me that UNT is projected to go to a better bowl game than this if we win 7 games. Other Frisco Bowl projections show BGSU or Louisiana. That would be much more interesting. I live 730 miles from Frisco, so I won't attend frankly speaking. Watching it on TV.

The McNeese St. loss didn't concern me nearly as much as this win. This is an NAIA level program at a school where a very large percentage of students are "athletes". This could be a sign of a long season.

A great honor to host ARMY in Denton on Veteran's Day weekend too. And what a great recruiting day for the US Army playing in the state of Texas, with its huge pool of potential recruits.

And let's not forget that Wren left the DFW metroplex to live in West Virginia. Not sure why you would intentionally do that to yourself.

For those of you that majored in music or played in the marching band at NT, what the hell was up with the Memphis band that played the entire game? Were those actual songs they were playing? It sounded like just horn blowing. What an annoying atmosphere it sounded like on TV. Even my wife commented about how annoying it sounded there. If you were there, would love to hear about it. The Memphis band was playing during our onside kick too.

Give Memphis some credit here too. Their RB (Anderson Jr.) is tough to bring down and 4 TDs is hard to deny. Anderson Jr. would likely play even at Georgia or Texas. He is really good. Xs & Os on defense are not my thing. But it looks like it could be a personnel issue on our defense. It's not like we have a Booger Kennedy and Brad Kassel out there. But this is the best NT offense that I have seen since I started watching games in 1986. I sure hope there are a few guys coming off injury to boost the talent level a bit on defense. NT looks small out there.

Morris seemed to struggle with passing until the rain stopped. Just an observation. Fancher was likely more experienced on the grass and also in the rain. I mean it is south Florida. It surely rains a lot down there. Still can't believe NT won this game the way our defense played.

Never played football myself, but does it make sense that NT's offense will improve over time now because they are no longer practicing against the 3-3-5 defense that couldn't stop the run nor put pressure on the QB? Again, I never played football, so I am just speculating.

Agree. Private universities sometimes believe they serve as economic/social status enforcers with their "admission standards". UNT is funded by the state mostly and can't turn away large numbers of students. The taxpayers in Texas wouldn't stand for that. UNT's mission is to serve Texas as a whole. Not just a select few students who hit the jackpot with their parent's economic status. And yes, UT Austin has the same mission as UNT. UT also is arguably the best university in Texas including Rice. But UT still must accept all Texas students who graduate in the top 10% from a Texas H.S.

Coach Morris seemed a bit nervous but owned up to the embarrassing loss to TTU. He even had countermeasure plans to stop this from happening again, but it sure seems NT's injuries are a factor. Injury and lack of personal were asked about 3 separate times. The players did a fine job in the press conference.