Graddean

I believe Hardman was the end next to Greene. He played defensive back as a Freshman, linebacker as a soph, and then moved to DE.

I think Hunt's wife went to North Texas. She is one of very few elementary school teachers who became wealthy.

Plumm. Thanks for the memory.

At the time, Donny Anderson was considered TT's most important recruit of all time. It was considered a major coup they were able to keep him in West Texas.

I don' t think we are "blowing up" the kid. The coaches did this. I don' t remember anyone plugging for him until Mac brought him up. I look at it as depth. Heaven forbid it happens again, but we have had a year when we went four deep at QB.

I am with Drexel on this issue. I have mant students who had to hold down jobs to go to school. This money then had to go to pay for books, tuition, and fees, not to mention housing and food. I had a single mother holding down two part time jobs to go to school and support her children. I have had fathers coming off a factory shift at 7:00 to be in class at 8:00. I have a lot of respect for those student athletes who take care of their academic while playing, but I think their benefits (for those on a full ride) is equal to or greater than the opportunities provided to other students.

No wonder Horned Toads are an endangered species.

What in Manziel's behavior would lead one to believe he would not do this? Of course, we know wealthy people never stretch the rules to get more. If Mav or RV had evidence other schools were breaking rules,would we have them sit on their hands?

Congrats Lt Jackson. Best of luck in an under appreciated career.

Anyone else remember Dr. Reddin in Biology? He was a great teacher, but you never could tell where he was looking. His glasses were about like coke bottles.

Because one person out of over 400 thought another camp was better, this camp was poorly run. Maybe Crochet should take a course in stat and learn about the concept of significant differences.

I think he still has problems. Notice how much he blinks in the video.

We were NAIA Division 1 before going NCAA D2. Same thing happened to us. It got down to where there were only 35 teams. Making the top 25 kind of lost its luster. The Southern Miss coach is absolutely right. What happens to the bottom feeders in the power5? The best thing for everyone in college football is to increase competition not decrease it. It is all about greed that is one reason I hate the SEC. They are the poster boy. The Bible had a caution about these things. The love of money is the root of all evils.

The ULM/Arkansas game revealed the problems within the Ark. Program. About all anyone could do last year was to brag they beat an SEC team, but bless them for doing it.

We win 9. We take the seven with ove/under equal to ours, and take two of the other five. Most likely wins are Rice and Fruit Jar Tech.

Interesting, that for so much perceived ill feeling, Benford was with him in New York. Could it be their relationship was not as fractured as some thought.

LaxI hate your response. I am now having trouble blaming my math professor for that "C" in analytical geometry. It also caused me to think about the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic motivation. Extrinsic motivation is not as effective and is not sustainable. Intrinsic motivation is superior and and sustainable. As Lax says, different people develop intrinsic motivation different ways and some never develop it. In fact, if I remember my psychology correctly, extrinsic motivation has detrimental effects upon intrinsic motivation.

I hope TM makes a big success in the NBA whatever the reason he slid in the draft. He is one of ours. I also hope for success for Benford next year. He is our head coach, and as long as he is, we hope he succeeds. I would like to tap the brakes on TM being the greatest bb player to hit our campus. The most heralded yes, but that doesn't mean the best. Does anyone else remember John Savage. Savage came from Detroit, TX and played on a dirt court. He came when freshmen could not play varsity. In his three years he made All Missouri Valley and Honorable Mention All American. He is 9th in career scoring, 8th in scoring average, 7th in rebounding, and 5th in field goals. Remember, this was before the shot clock and the three point shot. He accomplished this while playing in the best basketball conference in the country at the time, the Missouri Valley Conference or as frequently called "The Valley of Death." He played against two NCAA championship teams and the runner up team the third year. He was also drafted in the fifth round by the LAL. This was a time when there were only 9 draft picks per round. Also Joe Hamilton, not only had a great career here, but also did quite well in the old ABA. These guys may not have been heralded recruits, but they did perform. By the way, Savage played on teams that were sub 500.

Sports history is full of great assistants who were not successful as head coaches. Way back, the asst. coach at UNC was promoted to HC. Four years later, the students hanged him in effigy. Poor ole Dean Smith. This is not to say Benford will be successful, but success is slower coming for some of us.

A two qb system worked for the 1957 SWC champion Rice Owls. I understand different times, but Frank Ryan and King Hill shared duties with Rice.. Both were talented. I can work. As someone said, " Every other position it is called depth, but at qb it is controversy.

Before the doom and gloom, let's wait and see who takes his place. I don't know who else is out there, but we should wait and see b efore we circle the wagons over someone not making it to campus.

Remember, from about 1954-1964, college football was one platoon. There was one substitution allowed after each play and two on a change of possession. NTSC was playing one platoon football when I first attended. John David Crow was fullback and linebacker for the Aggies when he played. Most rubbing backs also played DB. I don't know what Abner Haynes did, but these guys were really tough.

They played Joe at linebacker because of his speed. One of my high school students from McKinney played in that game for TT. He said on a play wide, the tight end blindsided Joe, hit him in the chest, and bounced off with Joe making the tackle.

TM must shoulder the responsibility. If he were to be a lottery pick, is he going to a winning team. What level of effort is he going to put out. Responsibility is being judged on the quality of your own work. TM admits the scouts are questioning him not his coaches. Maybe, if he goes all out, the other players give max effort, and some of those L' s become W's.

Arkansas State was ranked number one at the end of the 1970 in the College Division making them the national champs. They went 11-0 that year and won the Pecan Bowl which was a regional College Division Bowl game. This was the third consecutive appearance in the Pecan Bowl. I realize this was not the equal of what is now D1, but just to point out AState does have some history.<br /><br />But Plumm is right about the Joe Greene era teams. Our starters were as good as anyone's. Our problem was depth. He is also right about us getting hosed Little Rock in 1968.