You forget that Dodge recruited to UNT before and actually enjoyed it. He was QB coach and OC to UNT's all time leading passer. SLC was good but were not a national powerhouse prior to his arrival. I know, I played against them when they were 4A and didn't have a fancy new stadium. 4A schools don't have a reputation for jumping to 5A and losing one game in 4 or 5 seasons, that is just unheard of. Yes Carthel has done some great things at WTAMU, but I just want to know how never coaching above the D2 level makes him the best choice? Has he ever even coached outside the Lonestar Conference at the collegiate level? Oh, and check out the stats this year compared to last and you'll show avg attendance dropped by 2500 per game this year and averaging about 100yd/game in penalties is not something I would look forward to. I don't think Jamario would either.