Cr1028

Good post. I will chill out for awhile.

I can’t believe some of you think this coach is the answer to taking us to ten win seasons, bowl wins, and conference championship game wins. If he even gets to where Littrell left us I will be shocked.

I wouldn’t say that he had peaked necessarily, I would say that he built a phenomenal original staff and his early success was ultimately his downfall. If he went (and remember he inherited a team that went 1-11 and got disemboweled by Portland State on homecoming) 4-8, 4-5, 5-7, 6-6, 8-5, 9-3, and 9-3 instead of 5-7, 9-3, 9-3, 4-8, 4-5, 6-6, and 7-5 that he would still be here. You may be right on the new era of recruiting but I still disagree. I think Littrell and Bennett fought well to stop tampering and hold on to players. They were able to keep one of our best linebackers ever when he had offers from the Big12 and SEC. I just don’t see what leads anyone to believe this guy is such a great coach outside of his riding Cam Ward’s coattails for a season or two.

How sad is it that 2 years ago we were in the CUSA championship game with 7 wins and now we are just wishing for 6 so we can be bowl eligible again? We fired a guy who hit that mark in 4 out of his 7 seasons here including his last 2 seasons. If 6 is acceptable then I am disgusted with this program because the whole reason for firing Littrell was to bring in someone that could do better, not the same or worse. I barely know anyone on this roster and I am not impressed with our coaching staff outside of Patrick who was a holdover from the last staff. I have never been less enthusiastic about the start of a Mean Green season.

l look at this schedule and see 4-8 or 3-9.

You say these things as if we are other schools. A .500 season is historically good for us. You think just because we put a few more resources into football that we should just be great all of a sudden but guess what, almost every other program has stepped up their resources too and some of them don’t have the reputation of being a coaching graveyard. This is why we have to overpay for scrubs like Morris. Littrell had us on the rise, yes it was painfully slow, but we improved every year after the disastrous Bodie Reeder experiment. Some got impatient and now it seems we are back to going in the typical Mean Green direction, down.

Thank you

(1.) 5-7, 9-3, 9-3, 4-8, 4-5, 6-6, 7-5. (2.) 4-8, 4-5, 5-7, 6-6, 7-5, 9-3, 9-3. (3.) 9-3, 9-3, 7-5, 6-6, 5-7, 4-5, 4-8. At what point would you have fired the coach with these 3 scenarios? Also, consider the coach with these scenarios would have inherited the worst fbs team in all of college football. Also, what would Morris need to do to merit firing after inheriting a conference championship contending bowl team? How many years does he get a pass? Does he get minimum 4 like Dodge?

I saw this the other day but chose not to post it because despite practicing, he has yet to be added to their roster. https://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/photos-marshall-football-conducts-first-practice/collection_16c4c1b6-4bfd-5089-91e3-5d595e579dc0.html?mode=nowapp

And what did he do with those two seasons? He improved both years. The first year he knocked off a ranked and undefeated UTSA to get to bowl eligibility. The second year he was a pass interference call away from beating eventual champion UTSA in their house, led us to the second conference title game of his tenure, and another bowl game. You say “year 4 and 5” but with the staff turnover he face after 2018 and 2019, you could put him almost in the same category as a second year 1. This team was built to compete and was on the rise. Eric Morris decided he couldn’t build on that and chose to tear it down instead.

Littrell didn’t get a hall pass in 2020 when he had to use grad assistants for a qb coach and you never knew which players would be available week to week because of covid testing. Littrell didn’t get a hall pass in 2019 when his OC/quarterbacks coach, running backs coach, wide receivers coach, and co-DC/linebackers coach were all poached by big name/money schools. Why should Morris, who hails from the same coaching tree as Littrell, get a hall pass?

You serious Clark? You may need to revisit the 2017 class. You can’t be serious here. Morris took a 7-5 team that played in a conference championship game and a bowl game and led them to a 5-7 season facing essentially the same schedule as the year before except for Tulane being added. He got beat by FIU for crying out loud. We beat that team 52-14 and 49-7 in the two seasons prior to Morris’ arrival. He is a worse version of Littell.

Yea and I bet the $$ per win is similar too without needing to take 12 years of inflation into consideration.

So that excuses their poor performance? Why did we even bother paying them then? Why do people talk so much crap on Todd Dodge if he wasn’t expected to win because “resources”? What is the current guy’s excuse?

And trips to conferences championship games. Remember that thing we played in the year before our current coach got here to help us get worse. 4-6 was covid so throw that out. But I am sure you are right, we are much better off losing to the FIUs of the world who we absolutely destroyed during the last two seasons of Seth Littrell. Dude is the only coach to have 2 9-win seasons here since Hayden Fry. Yes he didn’t get us over the top but he was not mediocre. If Eric Morris ever wins 9 games in a season or makes the conference championship game, then you might change my mind. Until then, as far as I am concerned, we have downgraded our coaching staff in football.

How many North Texas coaches in our lifetime were less mediocre?

Back to “sittingathomeforbowlseasonville”

Yep. Two great Mean Green players for us and one pretty good coach too.

I hear you. All in favor of concerts and wrasslin’.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/curious-texas/2019/12/18/how-will-the-cotton-bowl-transform-into-an-ice-rink-curious-texas-skates-to-the-winter-classic/?outputType=amp After all the input costs, how could this possibly be a revenue raiser? I think you are pretty much stuck hosting concerts and maybe 7 on 7, select flag football tournaments.

What would be the incentive for those teams coming to DATCU?

There are Heisman trophy winning quarterbacks that were only offered as DBs at Texas. I never understood how they could miss so bad over there. Texas A&M offered me as a safety. Texas offered me as an athlete, which meant they could have put me at any position. I wanted to be able to go into the conference and show them why they should have offered me as a quarterback—to prove to them that they made that mistake. https://texashighways.com/culture/heisman-quarterback-nfl-commentator-robert-griffin-on-returning-to-texas/ “‘I think that's a big reason why I didn't go to the University of Texas. They wouldn't pull the trigger on me and my size at any position,' Manziel said. ‘They wanted me to play safety. Safety, me. Ain't got a lot of white safeties out there Shannon.'” https://clutchpoints.com/texas-football-news-johnny-manziel-drops-truth-bomb-longhorns-recruiting

No, Riley flipped his commitment to play with dad. Vizza transferred out after his sophomore season which was Riley’s true freshman season. Vizza was in the 2007 HS class and Riley was 2008.

The other guy was saying Vizza only played his freshman season of 2007 before being chased off by Rodge and I said that was false because in 2008 Vizza was still the qb for his sophomore season while Riley was a receiver during that 2008 season as a true freshman.