It is losing, not loosing. Nay-sayer? No, I just want to see us to continue to improve. Right now it appears to be going the wrong direction, and DD doesn't appear to have the answers to reverse this trend. A coach who understands what he has to work with and what type of recruits we can pull in? Sounds like DD speak has gotten into your head. Let's see, DD has a new athletic center, new practice fields, new dorms, new dining hall and drawings on the board for a new stadium. Fouts has been upgraded recently with scoreboard, new turf, new paint, etc.... What are we missing to pull in better recruits? I would say that our last few recruiting classes have been good other than not fulfilling our allotment. The talent is there, but the coaching is not. No complaints about RV other than I would be interested in the quarterly meetings and a few other things coming about that he promised. At least RV is enthusiastic. Your right, we are competitive in this conference, but don't you want to move up? As untgirl put it, do you want to flip hamburgers all your life?