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Yes it is...I found the UCLA Houston, UCLA Texas bouts interesting. The bruins sure do love playing in Texas. UCLA on the upswing in the league might have an even greater influence in discussions or at least get the conference thinking. GMG

I think we should have throwback day in 2013! Think about the revenue opportunities for the school. Sell NTSU shirts, old logo items, bring back some leaders from the past and celebrate our history at halftime. Play some music from the 60s, 70s and 80s. Rule #1: 1. Make sure this is a non-televised game - no need to confuse the sheep out there. 2. Create a tagline for the game - Our History Our Pride or A Rich Tradition BSU celebrates its history from the 50's through the ranks of 1AA and into today's college football power. I have seen so many colors, logos, names...and I only started following the Mean Green in '86! I have a lot to learn about our Rich Past. Finally, I saw a 16 ounce glass tumbler at Voertmans the other day with our full fight song on it, including the change U-N-T-Eagles...I would like to see the football leadership - coaches, student presidents, fraternities, alumni associations...talk to the kids at Eagle Camp or whatever we call it. Talk about working together to preserve the pride of our fight song. Get them to practice it and even talk about how to drown out anyone who disrespects the fight song. It would be like turning the tide against the idiots and getting students to organize for tradition. This could also be talked about in freshman orientations... GMG

The more I think about SDSU they may choose to stay in the NBE and carve out their own identity. Remember TCU and Boise were always tied together. Well now SDSU and Boise seem to be tied together primarily due to region versus performance. But to me Boise is more interested in regional rivalries and they are still the golden child of college football. They don't have anywhere to go other than to BCS games or the Big 12. SDSU does not have that luxury. They are still an unknown in football but bring it in hoops. I would listen too if I were SDSU and who knows they may choose to align with the national conference afterall. GMG

No self pity/doubt allowed. We have a fine University who simply needs to get to work. If we all do something to contribute to funds, attendance, exposure, influence, we will continue to do wonderful things in the future. GMG

What I don't distress about in our current situation is that we automatically have a better more equal image: MWC - seen as premier league outside of the big leagues CUSA - indifferent Big East - terrible image Sun Belt - same poor image MAC - decent image - below MWC above CUSA It is much much easier to rise out of a league that nobody is viewing as good or bad. It is simply there. The Big East is viewed as a tragic league now. Those programs are going to battle that image problem much like we did in the Sun Belt over the next decade. The Sun Belt can only continue to win and play with a chip on its shoulder. CUSA with wins by its members FAU, FIU, North Texas, La Tech, UTSA, Rice, Tulsa, UTEP can raise the profile of the conference more easily. Further we are all chasing the same apple. Mean Green it doesn't matter where you live - just get there! GMG

My only beef in this thread is that their stadium is nicer than ours. I liked their stadium but Apogee it was not. We've got a gem in Denton! GMG

Just love all the SEC is - rabid fan bases, football is religion, pure rivalry hate, a conference that acts as one without every member looking to leave. I was the only bama fan at the party last night. I like high standards and SEC basically states - raise your game Oregon, Stanford, Notre Dame, K-State... No football prowess redistribution here! GMG

The MWC has the luxury of considering quality at this point. The standings as they enter MWC play are sick: 6 Top 50 RPI teams 6 programs with 12 or 13 wins 1 undefeated I just don't see the league clamoring for SMU and Houston to bring their vaunted programs to the league. It will mess up their geography, rivalries...SDSU, Boise, BYU make complete sense. They will not make the 16 team WAC mistake again. Wyoming 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 13-0 1.000 9-0 4-0 0-0 Colorado State 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 13-2 .867 9-0 2-2 2-0 New Mexico (20/23) 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 13-2 .867 7-1 3-1 3-0 UNLV (RV/24) 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 13-2 .867 10-1 3-1 0-0 San Diego State (19/17) 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 12-2 .857 7-0 3-0 2-2 Boise State 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 12-2 .857 7-0 3-2 2-0 Air Force 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 8-4 .667 5-1 2-2 1-1 Nevada 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 9-5 .643 8-1 1-4 0-0 Fresno State 0-0 .000 0-0 0-0 6-7 .462 3-3 3-4 0-0

I personally will not be sad if I never see the Mean Green line up across the field from Oregon and now A&M. Anyone else you can have a good half and we have against K-State, LSU, Alabama...but you are flat out taken to the woodshed and embarrassed when the Ducks and Aggies get a hold of you. That is even if you are a very solid smaller program - see Arkie State. I love the Aggies watching from afar. I think you need to play them often like Stanford to make headway. They are like the antithesis of Air Force. Texas A&M doesn't need any justification for joining the SEC. Down in Aggieland SEC flags fly proud and getting those rabid fanbases visiting College Station is going to do well for them for decades to come. GMG

The longer we keep UTEP and Tulsa the better. It will show them the richness of our new league with fans traveling and that newleague spirit. They are going to have a great time on the hill and seeing the Mean Green machine roll into their towns. GMG

It was pretty amazing to see OU reduced to what appeared to be a mid-level Big 12 team. I was against the Sumlin hire, but goodness what he has done with the horses in the SEC is amazing. I also believe the SEC prepared the Aggies mentally. They showed up cocky and stayed that way while thumping a team I often root for. I almost felt earlier this week that OU knew exactly what was coming to them. It looked like they were going to rattle Johnny early, but you can't get field goals against the maroon. Once Johnny Football got rolling it was over. I liked the opening too about Texas A&M representing the State of Texas and the SEC. Aggie Nation rising. GMG

Texas has gone from shunning them to being viewed as avoiding them. Texas would actually benefit from playing and trying to take down a top 5 team in the country next year. It would raise their SOS. But with that said this was about the Aggies and watching one of the coolest programs in the country. I tune in to watch any Oregon game and I do that with the Aggies now too. I even hosted a Johnny Football cookout/bonfire last night. We raised a tequila shot to the Aggies at the end of the night and I woke up feeling all those beers too. It was a blast and my new friends were thinking - good gosh how will he be when the Mean Green get good again! Even my Texas friends couldn't help but shout with some amazement. It was all in good fun and now back to the Mean Green!!!!! GMG

1. Looking at the new CUSA map and seeing us in the middle instead of an outlier for the first time in 25 years! 2. Most away games and tailgates in a long time: FAU, Monroe, Houston and LSU. 3. THE HIT at LSU 4. Watching the comeback against LaLa on national TV from LA Some good ones even in a weak season! GMG

I do as well. I think ODU brings instant brand recognition to CUSA. UTSA brings a destination city. MTSU bridges the Southern gap and FAU has better facilities than FIU. I think all of the Adds are bringing something good to the table including us with our excellent facilities and recruiting hotbed location. GMG

As long as they have that big basketball power you let them back in. That conference in bball is loaded including Wyoming's undefeated team this year. CSU is always strong as well. That is a stout league no matter how you slice it in bball: UNLV,UNM,SDSU,CSU,Wyoming, Boise. Hawaii and Nevada have been known to make some noise as well! CUSA needs to get its hoops and football in order! GMG

I spent New Years in New Orleans and I actually saw this coming. The Louisville fanbase was out in force and there were so few Florida fans until New Years Day when I was leaving. Louisville reminded me of UNT's first trip to the Big Easy on steroids. We had a good chunk of fans that traveled to MSY but I don't know who was left in the Ville this week! They took over Pat O'Bryans, there were more Louisville flags hanging from the balconies and just a lot more fans. I have never liked Louisville but I was rooting for them because their fanbase was sooooo excited to be there. Their team showed it too. Friday night tailgate on the deck, Johnny football will be throwing - I'm not ready for football to end! Go TAMU GMG

La Tech is a truly bizarre program. For a school that is 3 hours east of DFW, they have lived out west for so long that I just don't see them until I care to look. This was even when I was in WAC country and I would tune in to see what Hawaii did out in Ruston. Yet, I go to Southern LA and there is more of a Ragin Cajun feel than even a Tulane, Monroe or La Tech buzz. I have almost heard as much if not more about Monroe as I have about La Tech. I did tune in the night they played A&M from the West Coast. Starting in 2013 I look forward to sparking our conference rivalry, but for a program that has been around for a long time they seem to have been misplaced for about a decade. CUSA will be good for them. ASU is a bear and us pure fballers know just how good the Indians...erh Red Wolves have been for quite some time. GMG

Does anyone not see SDSU already holding a freshly tested new pen:) GMG

Living in NM at the time of the 16 there was major opposition to losing rivalries. However, BYU and Utah were still in the league and big draws in the Pit. The split has and always will be an issue with UNM; however, I don't know how much power they truly weild. I will say they will fight like mad if they lose the rivalries with UNLV and SDSU. Those three basketball powers drive the bball image of the league with an emerging Boise. You let Boise drive the football bus and the MWC is in great shape! I don't see why you need Dallas and Houston when your team is going to have the best shot at getting to the BCS every year. Living in Vegas during the rise of the MWC I can tell you that TCU even with their dominance always was an outlier. There was so little interest about TCU in Las Vegas because the Rebels stunk in football and TCU even when decent played in front of a few hundred fans at home. There was no emotional connection to the Frogs, so I am not sure how excited SDSU, Fresno and UNLV will be to adding the Ponies and Coogs. It would be like getting that random game against that team from far away - ala Ball State and Ohio when the Mean Green play them every now and then. Tulsa to me would be even further off the emotionally charged chart. CUSA - cares about markets MWC - cares about rivalries SBC - plays with a chip on its shoulder BE - cares about surviving MAC - cares about tradition and regional rivalries GMG

Well if you are arguing academics and then trying to lobby for the MWC, I just don't think you argument is making much sense at all. You go west and you get Hawaii, UNLV, Nevada, San Jose State, Utah State, Fresno, New Mexico...great institutions of course but Duke, Rice, Vanderbilt, Tulane you are not. Tulsa is smart for waiting to see how the dust settles rather than jumping aimlessly into the abyss. The new CUSA is going to have some excellent rivalries and does not suffer from the negative brand image that the Big East and the Sun Belt do. I would argue and may be solo on this, but I believe the Sun Belt image has improved this year and shed some of its baggage. For UNT I would do the following in this order: 1. Accept an invite to MWC 2. Build CUSA No Big East and no Sun Belt. Time for the right change. GMG

I call out horrifying disgusting football when I see it, and that includes games I have watched by UNT. I will call it like I see it and those may have been the two worst programs I have ever seen play a bowl game. Big boy program. Look at the violet froggie talking smack. Worry about beating your green tomorrow. Froggie makes me laugh. They ain't ever gonna visit a BCS game again but they will make some dinero. Notice I didn't say UNT would obliterate either program. I said Arkie State and MTSU would. Now I see what little frog syndrome sounds like. GMG

This is some of the most tragic football I have seen. Granted I didn't watch the whole ULM debacle earlier in the day but I can't believe someone is going to get a trophy out of this travesty of a bowl matchup. Arkie State and MTSU would roll either one of these programs. GMG

Congrats to the pony and they should be a minimum bar that we cross. With a larger alumni base and better facilities we simply must strive to win 3 of 4 bowl games in a four year stretch. Mac knows the bar. RV feels the bar and now is the time to deliver. We will be a better team by the time we play the ponies and Jones will most likely be gone after this year. Keep the series. We will compete, we will win and this will become a big time matchup that many are looking forward to for the next few years. GMG

Well that makes it very interesting because BYU would love nothing more than to be the top dog in a conference like they were so many years in the WAC. If they formed a new league I would imagine it would look like this: BYU Boise State San Diego State New Mexico UNLV Air Force Navy Fresno State Colorado State Wyoming This group does not care as much about big markets which makes SMU and Houston tenuous at best. I think they go for quality and if they have to bring in markets only then look for SJSU, Houston and SMU to be considered. However, those western schools can do without the Coogs and Ponies. Those program names just don't hold the water in their eyes. This league would go for a long long time precisely because these players know the power of regional and rivalry. THey have also been playing each other a long time. Everybody in that league loves when BYU comes to town. GMG

what a crowd! GO RAGIN!!!!!