Whatever, Gundy had great players left to him when Les Spare opted to coach at Loser State U. If anything GUNDY has been the reason they haven't made more noise in their division. They've blown what, 3 games to Texas where they were up big? They can't finish games. I personally like Gundy, I think he's a good guy and his epic meltdown is one of my all-time favorites, but I don't believe for a second his relative success thus-far has been due to his ability to "red shirt" any more than I believe his inability to get past mediocrity is solely due to not having "his" guys. As for Riley, my opinions have been stated over and over. I dont think he's ready to play QB but if his speed and athletic ability help us win in any capacity, I'm fine with it. Im still all for Vizza being the guy. I dont understand the red shirt deal, but I assume Dodge knows more about what he has on this team than I, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Just this one, because the rest of our game is awful. We have to find a way to win games, period. Our program- in it's current state- is a JOKE. So I guess I agree and disagree with you. Which is a break from my usual total disagreement.