Eagle1855

wow, so we could beat 1 Div 1A school in Texas. Ugh.

from the AD at Nebraska's mouth: The Link: Nebraska AD stays behind Callahan

MEANIE! Thats what I will call you and if we were on the play ground in 2nd grade, I'd probably push you down Lighten up people

This is the most important part of your comment. It is also the most factual. While things like fan attendance are nice, conferences want teams that can field good teams in several sports, not just football. Rice, SMU, and UH wouldnt be in C-USA if football attendance was the biggest factor.

Actually it was because Clemson and South Carolina got into a fight at the end of the year and their administration made a classy move and decided to not let them participate in the bowls they would have been invited to... but either way, your point still holds true! I will be impressed if any of the sunbelt teams go to a bowl game. La-Monroe isnt a lock just yet.

yeah good to see they are sharing the same success they had in the sun belt. 4 games won between 3 teams.

Id show up to watch us get beat by Texas, Texas A&M, OU, Texas Tech, Nebraska, etc... Hell Id show up to see us get beat by TCU, Houston, SMU. But in my opinion, nobody wants to watch their team get beat by U La Whatever, the F_U's , Avacado U, or Guacamole State Its not the same thing. The Baylor game proves my point. I'll ignore the bandwagon "shot" and assume it was not directed at me. I have been to the games I can make it to-- it costs a couple hundred bucks to make a weekend out of going to denton, and I will be there for the last games. Im merely stating that I can see peoples' perspective if they dont want to show up, especially if they are out of town- its understandable and it doesnt mean they dont support the university. I dont think we have luxury of picking and choosing our fans. I'll take whatever people show up.

Its not up to the fans to put a winning team on the field. Win games, people show up, people donate money. Losers never draw crowds. I didnt miss your UTEP comment, my question is, WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

Heres a question for everyone before the piling-on continues... when, if ever, is it ok to not go to games? I mean, isnt it understandable that someone wouldnt want to make it up to watch a 1-10 or 2-9 team? I dont think it means someone isnt supportive of the school or the team, but nobody likes to watch their team lose over and over at home. Your priorities on the weekends change. As a person living in Houston, its alot easier for me to be inspired to make the trip to Denton (and deal with gas prices, lodging, etc) to watch a winner or even a competitor than it is when there is nothing on the line, not even a trip to a bowl game or a shot at a conference title in an otherwise terrible conference. Does that make someone a "fair weather fan"? Just playing devil's advocate.

id take one

So Im on cold medication and trying to get over being sick while at work, and I think I got lost in my logic some haha My point tp the previous essay is, its easier to "hit" when hiring a coach for a big-time BCS program because you essentially have the pick of the litter. Best talent, most money, tradition, blah blah blah. Not making excuses, staing facts. Its more difficult when you are trying to build a program because I think its a challenge to find a guy who will work for the pay we can afford and bring us up to the next level. This is not to say I do not think it can be done. I think it WILL be done at NT. I dont think Dickey is the guy, and I m positive his staff isn't it. I think the next hire at NT is crucial, and I think RV knows/sees that. Just an opinion.

Thats exactly why. Im not saying you dont run the same risk as the A&Ms and Nebraskas of the world by firing a coach, then ending up with someone worse. Im not really disagreeing with your logic. Its just alot harder for a non BCS team to make a comeback than the BCS conferences. We are building. They are maintaining or tweaking. Coaches that can "sell the program" to the fans and players are harder to come by for non bcs teams. We arent really the "dream job" for anyone. I think A&M and Nebraska losing are unacceptable for programs with that much money. IF you have that much money, you should be able to find a winning coach (an orange if you will)--and they will. The difference is that every successful Div 1A non BCS team's coach (the apples) gets hired off the second they are successful. There are other factors that make BCS hirings different than non BCS, and most all of it comes down to money. Texas has multiple coordinators/coaches that could (and probably will be) Div1a head coaches at other schools (and are paid as such right now). You think Chizik is going to be at Texas next year if his defense helps Texas win a National Championship? I doubt it. And in the event of that, they have the money to hire away another coach that is doing well elsewhere just like they did to Auburn last year. Surely you dont think Mack Brown is the coaching genius behind their success. haha Look at UTAH/Florida, etc. I think Dickey would be gone in a second if we didnt suck in OOC games so badly and there was a school that had more "support" that wanted him. NT and other mid majors (tho I dont know we qualify as one) dont have the money to pull in the "big-time" coaches or the supporting casts that you see in an "elite" program (tho I dont think A&M qualifies as won), therefore it is a more difficult to compare the two. Once our coaches become big time, they are picked over. Maybe the problem isnt that there is a difference between apples and oranges, the problem is that all the good apples become oranges.

Apples and Oranges with BCS conferences, if the comparison you refer to is firing one coach and ending up worse off. However, both of these guys are questionable hires in the first place. Frank Solich was winning with the talent recruited before him, thus it may be a misconception that Solich was a better coach than Callahan...Its kind of like blaming an incumbent president for the sad shape of the economy when he has only been in office for 2 years-- the wheels were set in motion long before. Still question firing a 9-3 coach tho-- that takes huevos Slocums time was done either way. A&M just screwed up hiring a guy who's success was based on LaDanian Tomlinson and winning in a weak conference. Just my opinion

Theres a thought, replace one coach who has stalled out in a program with another who has done nothing except set all time worst loss records at his current job. Plus, he will leave the second he gets a better offer. No thanks. Agree with most of Lifers post... look at the teams the last 3 years... its a downward trend. Time to shake things up... at the very least bring in a new OC.

Gotta be one of the ugliest golf courses I have ever seen/played... cant say it will be missed. Although we had a hell of a time during a fraternity undergrad/alumni golf tourny back in '99. In hindsight, after several beers, the course looked about "just right"

I hope you are right, I dont have a good feeling about any of our games anymore! I used to think, "ah its a sunbelt game, its in the bag" (as anyone should be)... now, regretfully, I am never certain.

Cooler than Mr. T?

SO I dont get it... is he saying that DD has a small..oh. Hmm, come on, you can do better than that. Maybe they should take a visit over to the Soonerfans site... some GENIUS fark going on over there. I imagine some of our own on this board have some impressive work to contribute!

I tend to agree, and originally was going to post something similar in response. I think he is overrated and I prefer a coach that shows a bit more character. I wont elaborate, but thats my opinion from the 'bama thing and a friend of mine who played for him Again this is only my opinion and should not be regarded as anything more

Oh go back to your swamp with the biggoted comments.

17-10 Sunbelt race gets really interesting if we win this game. Could set up a Conference Champ game for homecoming. And you know how hard it is to leave Fouts field with a win!

Oh. ha, well sorry! I misunderstood your statement Well the logic follows still, tho I didnt mean to jump ya

so our post season average is rough... curoius, when was the last time any of the other sun belt teams went to a Div 1A bowl game? *besides the fluke that sent Troy there last year

I thought they made it OK for 1AA teams to count towards bowl eligibility last year.. am I mistaken? It really wont matter for A&M either way, because they arent going to win @tech, @OU, or at the Tacklebox against Texas. Fran may be looking for a new gig after this year. And if he charms his way into another year, another record like this next year and you can GUARANTEE he will looking for a new employer

Try to defend what? Nobody is making personal attacks on DD... People just get tired of this "ho humm, nobody likes us, la dee dah, its soo hard to coach here" attitude that is embodied in quotes like that one.