For all of you crying over the way the ad portrays your university I must ask, did you not bother to check and see what the publics perception of UNT was before you attended the school? Seems to me that the school has ALWAYS been more a convenience for people that live in the area rather than a destination (save a few specialized degree programs). Maybe some day it changes... I believe it will... but this really isn't a big deal at all. I see it as us taking on the other public, affordable 4 year schools in the area like UTA, UTD. It's playing to one of our strengths. That's what you do when you sell a product. I mean, if you wanted to go to a school like TT, UT, or A&M- you should have done so. If you couldn't get in (which I suspect is the case for more than half the "we hate UT" faction on this board)- get over it. Be glad UNT was there, close to home, and affordable. It is a good school. Strides are being made. The school has made a ridiculous amount of progress since I first set foot on the campus in '99 and I fully expect it to continue doing so with the leadership we have in place. I also happen to think the UNT-Dallas campus might be a good alternative for those non-trads that want to get a decent education that is close to home. This will only help with the public's perception of the main campus as UNT becomes a more traditional college. My opinion of UH is the same as many of your opinions of UNT. I grew up in Houston, never had any interest in attending UH though I most certainly would have been accepted. It was ranked higher than UNT at the time in my major... probably still is. I wouldn't have traded my experiences at UNT, however. This thread is a huge waste of time, in my opinion. UNT isn't UT. It will NEVER be. It doesn't NEED to be. It can be a first-class institution without charging an arm and a leg. There's nothing wrong with being a good value as long as the admission standards continue to go up. Hell, Rice used to be FREE. Fire away.