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BIG OUCH Broadside for Tech from a Tiger poster. QUOTE ..... (Tech Poster) We might not have a choice a fewyears down the road but the WAC is much more respected conference than the Sun Belt. It is the truth. I would not step down until we absolutely have to. (Reply from Tiger poster- Catdaddy 2402) Correction...the WAC was more respected. Now the WAC is just an oversized Big West. You replaced teams in media markets like Dallas, Houston, Tulsa and El Paso with teams in Moscow, ID, Logan, UT, and Las Cruces, NM. You bash the Belt....yet you took two of the Belt's cellar dwellars and another team that never had a winning record while a member of the Belt. The only respected teams in the WAC are Boise and Fresno...and they'll have to play a Murder's Row OOC slate to overcome how weak the WAC schedule just became. The problem with La Tech is they feel like their program is a lot more prestigous than it really is. You brag about beating Oklahoma State in '02...but fail to mention you followed that groundbreaking opening day event up with only three more wins the rest of the season. You brag about beating Michigan State....but again just three more wins the rest of the way. Your coach is in over his head, and the Dr Jeckll/ Mr Hyde style that your team plays with is a prime indicator of that. I knew he was a fool after the '01 Humanitarian Bowl, where our worst defensive team in 35 years at Clemson punked your supposedly high octane offense. Bicknell was crying after the game that we ran up the score and there would be payback in the regular season game in '02. Then came your big win over Okie State and your fans really started woofing then. Only to be pimp slapped even worse than you were the year before. Typical La Tech...all bark and no bite. Your facilities would be second rate in 1-AA. Your budget would be average in 1-AA, as would your team. You are an afterthought in your region to a school located 250 miles away. You are losing ground every day that facilities are being upgraded in Denton, Troy, and elsewhere. You have very little wiggle room budget wise because your travel expenses for conference games in every sport to got a little higher. The conference who's "respectability" you cling to like a life preserver is a MWC overture away from being decimated even more than it already was. The "bell cow" program of your athletic department is dying a slow death because it can't keep up withthe new powers in women's basketball money wise. Your already pathetic attendance is going to be hurt even more by the fact that the closest conference team to you is 1000 miles away, and you have played a grand total of 31 games against the members of your conference combined. But you go ahead and let pride decide your fate. Meanwhile North Texas, Troy, and others enjoy progressing while you pridefully fall that much further behind.

Bulletin board material ? Here's what they're sayin' about the article on the Muts board. http://forums.delphiforums.com/mtraiders/m...es/?msg=32612.1 Blue Raiders will defeat North Texas this season Sports Commentary By Jonathan Hutton Published: Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Article Tools: Page 1 of 1 It's coming. The Blue Raider Football season will kick off before you know it, and this season, the fans should prepare for a winning season. "Why?" you ask. The question should rather be why not. Everything seems to be playing into our favor this year. I know it's early, but our schedule, returning players, coaching staff and athletics department easily give MT a pre-season edge, even with the loss of Rogers and Fiveash. Even though you'll find me in Tuscaloosa Sept. 3, what I am looking forward to is the home opener against North Texas a week later. The Blue Raiders will more than likely catch North Texas coming off a beating by the hands of Louisiana State in week one before traveling to the 'Boro to open up Sun Belt Conference play. They are still competitive with running backs Jamario Thomas and Patrick Cobbs returning, and with head coach Darrell Dickey, but losing 2004 starting quarterback Scott Hall will prove crucial. They bring in sophomore quarterback Joey Byerly, who looks decent on paper, but has little experience when it comes to real game-time situations. North Texas may be the super power in the Sun Belt, as far as national recognition is concerned, but even Rome fell. Middle Tennessee has improved on defense and hasn't faltered by any means on the offensive side of the football. The Blue Raiders are very deep at linebacker, have a solid defensive line and have more experience in a secondary that improved as the season went along last year. Cleannard Saintil, Chris Henry and Stephen Chicola will replace Kerry Wright and will all be key options for quarterback Clint Marks this season. Look for a big highlight reel in the passing offense again this season as long as MT gets the run established. The main reason why this will be the year that North Texas is dethroned is because so much is on the line for MT. Let it be known - the pressure is on MT and its coaching staff to post a win against the Mean Green. I didn't say the pressure was to "perform" because the team has played well in every contest but just hasn't gotten over the hump. This game alone will be a testimony to a successful Blue Raider season or another let down. If MT wins the home opener under the lights at Floyd Stadium, the bleachers will see a boost for the rest of the season, and McCollum will get a monkey off his back that has been riding him since the SBC began. The boost that a victory over North Texas would give these players is enormous. MT needs this win. The SBC championship goes through North Texas and ends with a victory over Troy in the season finale. The fall of North Texas is coming in just two short months. Jonathan Hutton is a junior mass communication major and can be reached via e-mail at jdh3x@mtsu.edu.

Thanks for reminding those of us who live on the Gulf Coast

Thread discussing Tech's plight & posters, but UNT gets some mention & props. http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/confusa/invi...ST&f=22&t=26797

Thanks for the info Harry.

Frankly Plumm if we're anywhere in 10 years, at my age I'll just be happy to be alive to see it !

1. Any word on the # of players that are on campus doing "voluntary" workouts? Who might they be, etc. 2. Any update/photos on the turfin' at Fouts ? 3. Are the practice fields by the new AC been completed? 4. When do players "officially" report for fall practice?

The quarterback (insert name here) had better be able to put at least some forward dynamic motion (aka pass the friggin ball some) or the (insert name of rushing champ) may consistantly run into a brick wall (aka 8 or more in the box) and that's aint all that good.

When you have the # of season tickets and the attendance numbers we have.........the alumni side or any side is definately hurting

What's the latest on Cullen Mills coming back?

Well we may not look great on paper when it comes to recruiting, but looks like we've got 7 of the top 30 players in the conference. MTSU that usually tops the conference in recruiing has only 2. Top 30 Sun Belt Players 1. RB Patrick Cobbs, Sr., North Texas Cobbs hurt his knee early and was never quite right last season after leading the nation in rushing in 2003 averaging 157.2 yards per game. He took a redshirt year and returns back and as good as new to provide a powerful, quick back who can also be a workhorse. He's an average blocker, but he won't be used as a fullback for Jamario Thomas. However, expect him to be used in several spots as an H-back, a receiver, or wherever else the offense can use him. 2. RB Jamario Thomas, Soph., North Texas There's no real number one rusher on the Mean Green with Patrick Cobbs 1 and Thomas 1A. Any concerns about the loss of Cobbs for last year quickly went away as the 5-11, 195-pound Thomas became the nation's leading rusher averaging 189.9 yards per game (but it was more like 200.1 yards per game considering he ran twice in the season opener against Texas) setting the NCAA record for the most 200 yards games for a freshman with five. He wasn't just great against Sun Belt teams, he ran for 247 yards and two touchdowns against Colorado. Despite missing almost all of three games, Thomas still ran for 1,801 yards with 17 touchdowns. He's lightning quick and a durable workhorse. 3. LB Bernard Davis, Sr., Troy 4. P Joel Stelly, Sr., UL Monroe 5. QB Steven Jyles, Sr., UL Monroe 6. DE Brandon Guillory, Sr., UL Monroe 7. CB Johnny Faulk, Sr., Troy 8. LB Leverne Johnson, Sr., Troy 9. OG Dylan Lineberry, Jr., North Texas 10. QB Clint Marks, Jr., MTSU 11. WR Drouzon Quillen, Jr., UL Monroe 12. P Thomas Olmsted, Sr., Troy 13. QB Jerry Babb, Jr., UL Lafayette 14. RB Antonio Warren, Sr., Arkansas State 15. WR Johnny Quinn, Jr., North Texas 16. FS Sherrod Martin, Soph., Troy 17. WR Bill Sampy, Sr., UL Lafayette 18. LB Shomari Earls, Sr., Florida Atlantic 19. DE Larry Brown, Sr., Troy 20. LB Marcel Horne, Jr., MTSU 21. DE Kenny Mainor, RFr., Troy 22. LB Tyler Norman, Sr., UL Lafayette 23. SS Tyrell Johnson, Soph., Arkansas State 24. LB Brandon Monroe, Soph., North Texas 25. LB Derek Mendoza, Soph., North Texas 26. CB T.J. Covington, Sr., North Texas 27. CB Nick Turnbull, Sr., FIU 28. FS Khayyam Burns, Soph., Arkansas State 29. TE Samuel Smith, Jr., FIU 30. TE Joey Trappey, Sr., UL Monroe

http://news.sunbeltsports.org/x/article/4007

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/sun_bel...elt_Preview.htm AAAGGGHHHHH North Texas 7-4, 7-0 in conference 1. North Texas (7-4 overall, 7-0 in Sun Belt) – Offense: With the return of 2003 NCAA rushing champion Patrick Cobbs joining 2004 champion Jamario Thomas, North Texas will be have one of the nation's leading rushing attacks as long as the offensive line comes through. Three starters need to be replaced upfront hurt most by the loss of center Andy Brewster, but there are some good pieces to build around. WR Johnny Quinn is a top deep threat leading a veteran receiving corps, so now it's up to 6-4, 254-pound QB Joey Byerly to come through as a consistent passer. Defense: The once killer North Texas defense hit a major slide trying to overcome youth and ineffectiveness. Last year's weakness, linebacker, is now the biggest strength with five good players to work with. The entire line has to be replaced and star safeties Jonas Buckles and Markeith Knowlton are gone. Making matters worse for a defense that allowed 414 yards and almost 30 points per game is the lack of a true number two corner as well an overall depth issue. The ends should be able to get into the backfield.

How's this for arrogance ? "We're in the Sun Belt Conference and the Gateway Conference and we're trying to move those conferences as far as we can get them," Selig said on Wednesday". http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sport...ts/12030333.htm Posted on Fri, Jul. 01, 2005 Western's deadline comes, goes SCHOOL STILL WEIGHING ITS LEAGUE OPTIONS By Keith Farner HERALD-LEADER STAFF WRITER After four months of anxiousness from Hilltoppers faithful, it appears a move to the Mid-American Conference and Division I-A football will have to wait. Yesterday the deadline passed for Western Kentucky University to make such a switch in time for the 2006-07 school year. WKU would face a $500,000 fine if it left the Sun Belt without giving the conference a year's notice. Athletics Director Wood Selig, who is vacationing on the Outer Banks of North Carolina, did not seem concerned that a move wasn't arranged in time to meet the deadline. "We're in the Sun Belt Conference and the Gateway Conference and we're trying to move those conferences as far as we can get them," Selig said on Wednesday. Western has competed in the Sun Belt Conference since 1982. Eighteen of Western's 20 sports compete in the Sun Belt. Football and men's soccer play in the Gateway and Missouri Valley, respectively. Selig said Western will continue to pursue its options. "You've always got both eyes focused on your league and its membership and its collective product," Selig said. "But your ears are open for movement going on elsewhere." In February, MAC Commissioner Rick Chryst contacted Selig for an academic and athletic profile of Western. That was after the MAC presidents voted to look into expansion options without a timetable. Since then, Western has not heard from the MAC. But the lack of communication has not frustrated Selig. "I think we're probably in the day and age where there's probably a lot of that going on in the country," he said. The MAC was interested in filling a void created when Central Florida (football only) and Marshall departed for Conference USA. One of those slots was filled on May 17 when Temple joined the MAC. In February, Selig said the MAC is a conference with considerable momentum and pointed to six bowl-eligible football teams last season. He also liked the league's media contracts with ESPN and Fox Sports. If WKU ever made the move from I-AA to a I-A football conference, the school would be spurred by the million-dollar payouts from bowl games. In the past, Selig has contacted Division I conferences such as the Atlantic-10, C-USA, the Missouri Valley and the MAC about joining them but was "politely told thanks but no thanks." Division I-A football carries 22 more scholarships than I-AA as well as a larger budget. To switch to I-A football, Western would have to: n Play a minimum of five I-A games. n Offer 200 scholarships in all of its sports; Western offers 165 now, but football would take care of a big chunk of the difference by increasing from 63 to 85. n Average 15,000 fans in paid or actual football attendance once every two years. Last season, the Toppers averaged 8,769 fans a game. Western's football budget is about $1.8 million whereas the average football budget in the MAC is $3.8 million. In late February, WKU's University Senate formed a committee to look at the possible move and how the university would be affected. Committee members were upset that they heard about the possible move from the media instead of internally. They talked about hiring an independent consultant to research the move, but President Gary Ransdell said that money could be better used elsewhere. Selig and Ransdell said they had spent considerable time researching the move. "I think internally we're very well prepared," Selig said last week. Improvements at WKU Western is in the midst of several athletic facility improvements: • A committee will choose one of three architectural firms in the next week to 10 days to conduct a $35 million renovation and expansion to L.T. Smith Stadium. Smith Stadium, a 17,500-seat facility now, will grow to 25,000-30,000 seats in time for the 2007-08 season. The stadium has not been renovated since it was built in 1968. The renovation will repair floor tiles, ceilings, cracks in the concrete and the air-conditioning system. It will also include some type of end-zone facility that would house coaches offices, a locker room and weight room. This project also includes the $1.55 million Academic Athletic Performance Complex and a $1.5 million track and field complex. The project will be completed in phases so it won't disrupt football season. n An $8 million parking structure between E.A. Diddle Arena and Smith Stadium is scheduled for completion in early August. n WKU also is working to add 300 seats to the baseball field which would bring its capacity to 1,100 seats.

Interesting that the Sun Belt did not rank last in attendance for 2004. Here's the attendance averages from the official NCAA site. MWC 35,213 (+2404) CUSA 28,359 (-3987) WAC 24,529 (-456) SUN BELT 18.054 (+3133) MAC 17,899 (-79) http://www.ncaa.org/stats/football/attenda..._attendance.pdf

Middle Tennessee's June Ask the AD Q&A's http://www.goblueraiders.com/?go=story&doc=4142

From CBS Sportsline Conference makeovers Sun Belt In: Florida Atlantic, Florida International Out: New Mexico State, Idaho, Utah State Staying put: North Texas, Middle Tennessee, Troy, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana-Lafayette, Arkansas State Skinny: Watch out North Texas. New I-A members FAU and FIU should rise to the top quickly.

Inside Dish: Scheduling difficulties for mid-majors By Matt Hayes - SportingNews Mid-major schools are finding it difficult to schedule for the new 12-game seasons that will begin in 2006. In theory, when it comes to scheduling BCS schools, the extra game should give mid-majors leverage as they try to secure one home game in a three-game series. But one mid-major coach says, "I'd say about 80 percent of (BCS schools) will tell you to kiss off." Although Oregon recently signed a home-and-home series with Boise State, that's far from typical. A prime example: Hawaii has been trying to schedule Florida for years -- as far back as when Steve Spurrier was the coach--and has inquired routinely about a two-for-one series. Hawaii just completed a deal to play the Gators -- one game, in Gainesville, in 2008. . . .

Volleyball So sez the Honolulu Advertiser http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/...3/sp/sp01p.html

Off the Sun Belt board.

Happen to find this in a New Mexico Lobo article on the MWC board. Congrats to Dylan ! http://golobos.collegesports.com/sports/m-.../062905aaa.html 2005 OUTLAND TROPHY PRESEASON WATCH LIST Jesse Boone, OL, Utah J. B. Closner, C, Alabama Daryn Colledge, OT, Boise State Ryan Cook, C, New Mexico Mike Degory, C, Florida Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota Steve Fifita, DL, Utah D,Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia Orien Harris, DT, Miami (Fla.) Manase Hopoi, DT, Washington T. J. Jackson, NG, Auburn Max Jean-Gilles, OL, Georgia Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma Jake Kuresa, OL, BYU Travis Leffew, OL, Louisville Matt Lentz, G, Michigan Dylan Lineberry, G, North Texas Josh Linehan, G, Oregon State Grayling Love, OT, Arizona State Jesse Mahelona, DT, Tennessee Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State Garrett McIntyre, DT, Fresno State Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn Dan Mozes, G, West Virginia Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon Ryan O'Callaghan, OT, California Marvin Philip, C, California Samson Satele, G, Hawaii Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas Mark Setterstrom, OL, Minnesota Ben Siegert, DT, Oregon State Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan Andrew Whitworth, OT, LSU Jon Wilson, C, Air Force Eric Winston, OT, Miami (Fla.) Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas The Football Writers Association of America, a non-profit organization founded in 1941, consists of more than 900 men and women across North America who cover college football for a living. The membership includes journalists, broadcasters and publicists, as well as key executives in all the areas that involve the game. The FWAA works to govern areas that include gameday operations, major awards, a national poll and its annual All-America team.

News Star article talkin' about pre-season mag predictions for Tech. Interesting thing about the WAC is that most everyone considers it as Fresno, Boise and then "others". http://www.thenewsstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a.../507020336/1006 Bowl bearing Experts feel Tech is on course for postseason By Scott Beder sbeder@thenewsstar.com Despite returning the fewest starters of any football team in the Western Athletic Conference, Louisiana Tech is getting respect from the national magazines. The Bulldogs are picked to finish no worse than sixth in the nine-team WAC in a sampling of preseason prognostications from five national magazines. "It would be easy to dismiss their chances for a solid season, but this is a Louisiana Tech team that took on the toughest schedule of the current WAC teams last year," wrote Phil Steele's College Football Preview. "With an easier schedule than last year, Louisiana Tech has a shot at finishing in the upper half of the WAC and getting their first bowl bid in four years." Tech returns just nine starters from a team that finished 6-6 last season while adding four new coaches during the off-season. The Bulldogs also lost record-setting running back Ryan Moats, who opted to enter the NFL draft a year early. "I think that's pretty accurate," Tech senior quarterback Matt Kubik said. "I definitely think we're one of the top teams in the WAC. I definitely would consider us a bowl contender this year." Tech is a consensus No. 4 pick in the conference with Street & Smith, Athlon and Phil Steele picking the Bulldogs fourth. Lindy's regional publication for schools based in the Southeast wrote: "(Tech's) program has some continuity and experienced backups moving into starting roles, so don't be surprised if the schedule allows the Bulldogs to finish with a winning record and contend for the WAC's third bowl spot." Boise State and Fresno State are ranked as the top two teams by all the publications, but after that it gets a little murky. There is not a consensus on the third and fourth best teams in the league. Tech, Hawaii and Nevada are all given consideration with The Sporting News picking Tech third. "The schedule passes for reasonable by Louisiana Tech standards," writes The Sporting News. "This team might win six games in the newly configured WAC putting a bowl berth within reach." After playing Miami, Tennessee and Auburn in non-conference games last year, everyone seems to think Tech's schedule is more palpable. The Bulldogs open the season at Florida and at Kansas, a much tougher opponent than some might realize. Tech also gets Hawaii and Boise State in Ruston. "We've still got to play the games," Kubik said. "No schedule is easy, but last year playing those big games gave us some experience. This is my fifth fall at Tech and I won't say (the schedule) is easy, but it is more favorable and set up better. The goal is to get to a bowl game and I think that is a very realistic goal for us." Safety Dez Abrams looks at the predictions and scoffs. "I don't like the fact they have us picked third or fourth," Abrams said. "One reason I could see them doing that is we lost quite a few players. They can't account for guys coming in and young guys who step up. They can't take into account all the hard work we put in. We plan on coming out as WAC champs. We know we're going to a bowl. We have that set in our mind." Abrams, and many players like him who are stepping into starting roles, must produce if the Bulldogs are indeed going to run with Boise State and Fresno State. Tech will introduce 13 new starters next season, including an entirely new defensive front and three of the four secondary spots. "I don't know where we should be picked," Tech coach Jack Bicknell said. "We have a chance to be good, but we lost some experienced players and we're in a cycle now of less experienced players. They're good players; I hope they grow up quickly." As for the predictions? "It means absolutely nothing if you're picked first or last," Bicknell said. "It comes down to close games and staying healthy. They key for us is the secondary has got to come through and if we stay healthy offensively we might have a chance to be good." Originally published July 2, 2005

Size is great in LBs & the D-line, but strength, speed & quickness are far more important. No disrespect, but last year you defense was ranked 78th against the rush giving up 176.5 ypg. Our defense was down last year and it was ranked #74. It'll be interesting to say the least.

"Sun belt TV schedule will be released during Media Days July 25-26". http://www.sunbeltsports.org/info/asktheco...r#PASTQUESTIONS

Here's the DRC's full writeup Davey heads '05 class 08:27 AM CDT on Saturday, July 2, 2005 By Brett Vito / Staff Writer North Texas women’s soccer coach John Hedlund was convinced Krista Davey was the player who could take his team to the next level back in 1995. The former Houston area standout had the talent to play at several schools, but picked UNT after taking a visit to the school. The decision turned out to be the right one for Davey who was honored for her contributions to the program on Friday when she was included in UNT’s 2005 Athletic Hall of Fame Class. The class includes six former UNT athletes who will be inducted during homecoming on Oct. 29. “I was very surprised and honored,” Davey said. “I certainly didn’t expect it.” Davey earned first-team All-Big West Conference honors three times and still ranks among the top five players in UNT history in every major statistical category. Those accomplishments helped earn Davey a spot in a class that also included four former UNT football players and track standout Rudy Levarity. Brian Waters, a former UNT lineman who earned NFL All-Pro honors as a guard with the Kansas City Chiefs last season, headed the continent of former football standouts in the class that also included defensive lineman Burkley Harkless, running back Charlie Shepard and linebacker Lance White. Of the members of UNT’s Hall of Fame class, Davey might have faced the most unique challenge. UNT started its soccer program just a year before Davey arrived on campus to help build the team almost from scratch. “Coach Hedlund was a big part of the reason I decided to come to North Texas,” Davey said. “His vision for what he wanted for the program influenced me. I wanted to be a part of building something. I knew coach Hedlund had what it took to do it.” Davey developed into a dangerous offensive player under Hedlund and finished with 38 career goals and 24 assists. “Krista definitely ranks as one of the best players in school history,” Hedlund said. “She is a fierce competitor and who helped us win a lot of important games. She never backed down from anyone and was a great leader with a passion for the game.” That passion helped Davey continue her career in the WUSA, a women’s professional soccer league that lasted from 2001-2003. Davey was drafted by Washington D.C. and concluded her career in New York. “I hope that women’s professional soccer comes back,” Davey said. “It was a life-changing experience for me. It’s a necessity if we want our national team to continue to play at a high level.” Davey still plays for the Destiny, a women’s team that is part of the Richmond Kickers Soccer Club in Richmond, Va. The team plays in a league that features former WUSA and college players. Hedlund said Davey’s success on the professional level has helped UNT’s program grow. The Mean Green advanced to the NCAA Tournament last season and are scheduled to play on a new field this fall. Davey has enjoyed watching UNT’s program grow after playing for the Mean Green helped spark her professional career. “I hope that I made a contribution to get the team going,” Davey said. “I learned a lot at UNT and playing there was a great start that helped me go pro. I am very grateful.” BRETT VITO can be reached at 940-566-6870. His e-mail address is bvito@dentonrc.com. 2005 UNT HALL OF FAME CLASS * Krista Davey was a three-time first-team All-Big West Conference selection who helped establish the UNT women’s soccer program. * Burkley Harkless started at nose tackle for the UNT football team in the 1965 and 1966 seasons and was named to the All-Missouri Valley Conference Team after both seasons. He was a key member of a defense that allowed a league low 413 rushing yards in 1966. * Rudy Levarity ranks among the greatest sprinters in the history of the UNT track and field program. Levarity still holds the school record in the 100-meter dash (10.18 seconds), 200-meter dash (20.50) and was a member of the 800-meter relay team that set the school record of 1:23.84. Levarity lettered in 1980 and 81 and was the second member of the UNT track team to compete in the NCAA Championships. He finished seventh in the 200-meter dash in 1980 and also advanced to the semifinals in the 100. * Charlie Shepard was drafted by the Baltimore Colts after a standout football career at UNT when he lettered four times from 1951-55 and earned All-Gulf Coast Conference honors in 1955. After a brief NFL career, Shepard signed with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the Canadian Football League. Shepard led the Blue Bombers in punting from 1957-62 and was named the MVP of the Grey Cup championship game in 1959. He played on four Grey Cup championship teams and was inducted into the CFL Winnipeg Hall of Fame. * Brian Waters has gone on to a standout career in the NFL after playing on both the offensive and defensive lines for UNT from 1995-98. Waters led UNT in receptions with 28, including four that went for touchdowns, in 1996 and was an All-Big West Conference selection as a senior. The Dallas Cowboys signed Waters as a free agent before he ended up with Kansas City Chiefs. He was a Pro Bowl selection and a member of the NFL All-Pro Team last season. Waters also became the first offensive lineman to be named the AFC’s Player of the Week last season. * Lance White ranks fifth in the history of the UNT football team with 325 tackles, a total he posted in a career that spanned from 1983-86. The linebacker was an All-Southland Conference selection in 1984 and 1986 and was also named an Honorable Mention All-American by the Associated Press. The two-time defensive team captain was a member of UNT’s 1983 Southland Conference championship team.