In my days (83-90), the greeks weren't part of the solution at all. Their attendance/support was horrible. The standard procedure was for them to start rolling in sometime after halftime, slowly filling their areas. Then they spent most of the game turned the other way, looking back into the crowd, talking/planning their after-game parties, etc. The usual thing you heard as they were dragging in was "Hey, look NT's winning". Duh, we were f'ing good at the time. The worst part was when they did the stupid "paint your greek section". It made the stadium look like all we could afford was the left-over paint from HD. This further added to the problem, because they then thought that it meant their section was reserved. So, as I said, they'd come in during 3rd quarter and be total a$$'s to people that had been there the whole game, "in their seats", crowding them out until they finally moved. I always wondered why they had such little interest in the games, but now I see it's pretty much the NT culture. Similarly, I still can't comprehend how I'm walking across campus to the game and there's all these students running around playing soccer, sitting outside, etc. w/o any plans to go to the game. C'mon, get over to the stadium and support your school! It's not like they're off working, studying, etc. gk