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Thanks. I think there are about 3 or 4 teams poised to break out. Clearly WKU has been the class of the league for a while. You should be proud. I cheered wildly for WKU.

In a million years I never thought I'd be on a picket line with KRAM. I"m on strike.

I like pie. My dog likes pie. He once ate an entire I also like political discussion. When I keep my political discussion in an open forum like this, the debate is usually civil. It's when I start PM's with people that it gets over-emotional.

No dude, that's the way Republicans are. True conservatives stay the hell away from the Republican party.

Why does steam...

We call them an ally.

You mean massive government spending worked?

I like this quote.

I went to FIU's website to get their game feed. Uh, that's not basketball. Unless of course their star player is Jesus and the bench is known as the disciples. Think I'll try WKU

At times, yes he did. You are changing the argument, though. The original criticism was dems would blame W. for 2 years. If this is the moment where dual responsibility in the white house ends, then we can apply that same time line to George W. Bush. The funny thing is, when I heard the rhetoric from the right on the build up to the Iraq war, it was that Clinton had failed to keep us safe and now we needed to go bomb the crap out of somebody. Forget how utterly ridiculous that argument is, now you've discredited that argument by saying W.'s administration was in charge. But when it comes to catching Osama bin Laden, which should have been his top priority, George W. Bush has ultimately failed. If this had happened on a dems watch and bin laden had not been caught within 6 months you would be outraged. But somehow the man who does take responsibility for the bombing of the Trade Center got a pass from W. and Cheney. And instead we went after "The man who tried to kill my Pa." Since you bring up Clinton. When Bill Clinton prodded NATO to use military force, it wasn't the cluster f^&% George W. Bush got us into. The corruption and greed associated with this illegal and unnecessary war in Iraq has been the drag on our country and the world for WAY too long. And Cheney should be tried for War Crimes. I don't blame W. for everything. I mostly blame his party for letting this happen.

Where did I blame him for 9/11? Nobody says he was responsible for attack. He was in charge of our security, though. And in so doing, he failed.

Hey, you put chocolate in my peanut butter!

Are you suggesting that at this time in Bush's presidency is when he took total control. And everything that happened after that is his responsibility? Well, hell. Nothing BAD happened, did it?

Already bookmarked. But I miss Tina.

knowing more than one language is usually a great asset.

I've heard this argument somewhere before. But I don't think it was football related. Is the Ch. 11 story available on--line?

1. Sure, Reagan is a perfect example of how you can raise taxes, and expand government to make it work for you. Unless you are an Air Traffic Controller, then all bets are off. 2. Healthcare would be a much broader scope. The term "Universal" comes to mind. 3. I'm no more ready to accept Allah than I am any other diety, but I repect your right to worship. I have a number of Muslim friends who respect my religious choice and we discuss religion in an open and meaningful forum. To lump all Mulsims together is to say all Chritians are Southern Baptist. There are extremist in every religion. If you don't believe it happens in Christianity look up the Crusades. 4. Partially true. WWII did ultimately get us out of the depression, but the New Deal and Roosevelt's works programs had us steered toward recovery. Hoover wanted balance the freaking budget! Are you kidding me? 5. Sure it can be done, but it's getting increasingly more difficult, and at the rate of rising tuition costs, you won't be able to do that much longer.

The true comedy in this thread is, I started it by pointing out a factual error by Limbaugh. In doing so made a factual error myself. Fial. I mean Fail.

Really? Did he say he wanted him to fail?

But when Bush was in office, what was Limbaugh's rhetoric? He could have spoken up then, but he didn't, b/c as Reagan demanded, you don't criticize people in your own party (that was a terrible paraphrase.) After the '06 election Limbaugh said he had been carrying the water for people who didn't deserve it. In other words he supported people just b/c they were of the same party, not b/c he believed in their ability to pass useful legislation. That greatly diminishes his legitimacy in my book. And if Bush had demanded oversight with all of his entitlement programs, much of this waste and corruption would have been averted.

Dude, I'm so sorry. I meant Flyer not Lifer. My bad. It truly was my mistake.

1. Didn't Reagan raise taxes? A LOT! from the national review. 2. How do you figure? 3. When countries hate us they do things like BOMB US! Remember 9/11. I'm sure you do. Your party references at the drop of a hat, nevermind that it was George W. Bush who was charged with keeping America safe and HE FAILED! Again, George W. Bush did not keep America safe during his presidency. HE FAILED! 4. Again, a repub, Hoover, put us in a depression, and a dem, Roosevelt, got us out, and you can spin this how? 5. No I don't want a free education. I never said I did. READ! I did learn a valuable lesson, the cost of an education is way too high! And I hope my kids have my same work ethic (or better) that I have, but my point, that you seem to miss, is you cannot take that path anymore.

1. I'm sorry, I meant enforcement of regulations. And you're right Bill Clinton is the best conservative president this country has ever had. 2. Why is it that if I'm sitting at a red light and an accident occurs that is none of my fault, the police show up and it's my my tax dollars at work. The fire dept shows up and it my tax dollars at work. But as soon as the ambulance shows up there's money out of my pocket? 3. Yeah our standing in the world does matter. I'd like to have good relations with countries we might trade goods and services with. The better question is why would you NOT want good relations? Do you just like picking fights? I'd like to live side by side with my fellow man, not gun to gun. 4 & 5. Infrastructure is more than roads and bridges. If we had invested all the money in the Iraq war into alternative forms of energy, we would have created a lot of jobs. We would have reduced a lot of pollution (global warming theories aside, if you put pollutants in the air, it's bad for the enviroment). And we would have stopped supporting the nations that wish to harm us. 6. Spin it. Spin it like your dark lord an master Karl Tove taught you. Who said free? I certainly didn't. I said afford. If my kid wants to go to college, of course we should pay for it, but it shouldn't cost me an arm and a leg. I worked my ass off frying fish at Long John Silver's to get through college. There is no way you could do that now. I am the youngest of 4 kids and the cost of our college education grew by leaps and bounds from the oldest to me. College is most definitely not cheap.

Why would you want him to fail? If he succeeds then we'll get out of the financial disaster that deregulation (corporate welfare) got us into. If he succeeds then every American will be able to get medical treatment, not just the ones fortunate to have jobs. Health care facilities might stay open! If he succeeds then our standing across the world will be repaired. A standing we lost when we started a controversial and costly war. If he succeeds we can rebuild our infrastructure thereby creating more jobs. If he succeeds we can create newer forms of energy thereby lessening our dependance of foreign oil. If he succeeds my kid will be able to go to college w/o me having to worry about my retirement. Why would you not want any of that? Hey man, I freaking railed against George W. Bush from the day he took office, and much before that. But if his system had worked, I would have said, you know you're right. We are better off. But we tried it you're way. And your way FAILED!!!!!! It FAILED!!!!!!!!!! IT FREAKING FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can't deregulate corporate America because the tempt for greed is too much for most people. If you give corporations the option of a.) better for my country or b.) better for my pocketbook, they will always choose pocketbook. Government is OK if there is proper oversight. But to give the reigns over to corporate America with no policing, especially with their track record, is asinine!