Here we go again. First off, the repeated shots at the fans is NOT warranted. The people who are on this board, are some of the most die hard fans there are, win or lose. And as for the ones that arent on this board, well, we still did have 17K show up at the Troy game, as already mentioned. Many are calling for his job because of the repeated ass whoopings by OOC teams that are equal, not superior, to NT. When we play a bsc team, its like we are NEVER even close to being competitive. The game plans are always too conservative, and never change. We go to the NOB with ZERO OOC wins, and were not really competitive in any of them. We have been competitive in 1 of the 4 bowls. And, because of shots like that one he took earlier. He has been taking them at us for 8 years now. It has to stop. Instead of trying to bring us together, he is trying to create a divide between the players and the fans. Call, it the classic barry bonds "me vs the rest of you" syndrome. And most of us dont want him necessarily fired, we want him to make some key changes. But he has not made them in 8 years, and we don't see him making them. In fact, it seems that he doesnt even give a rat's ass that he has a LOSING record, even though we won 4 straight SBC titles. We want to see changes and improvements in the program, and if dd cant do it, we need to find someone that will. I know that this post and this repeated argument offends many, so let me apologize for wanting to raise the bar of NT athletics.