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  1. Which is not what you quoted... What she said was this “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.” In the context she meant that there was too much noise and hot air surrounding the ACA before it could even get through the committees to the floor for voting. Which is pretty much true for most bills. Until all the amendments are hashed out, debated is closed, and the votes actually come in, the final version of the bill isn't always known to the public. Conservatives like to repeat the talking point like you did that Democrats didn't bother reading or knowing what was in it before they voted for it, which is silly. Congress and their staff wrote the bill, Congress heard debate on the bill, and Congress did a lot to edit the final bill. That statement still rings true today. When you poll citizens and ask them how they feel about Obamacare, they don't like it. When you ask them how they feel about laws that were actually in the bill, a pretty clear majority tends to like it. There's even a pretty wide spread between asking people if they like Obamacare versus asking if they like it by it's actual name: The Affordable Care Act. Here's the full quote: Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday that people won’t appreciate how great the Democrat’s health plan is until after it passes. “You’ve heard about the controversies, the process about the bill…but I don’t know if you’ve heard that it is legislation for the future – not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America,” she told the National Association of Counties annual legislative conference, which has drawn about 2,000 local officials to Washington. “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.” During a 20-minute speech, she touted benefits she thinks will be tangible to the audience’s employers. She said there’s support for public health infrastructure and investments in community health centers that will reduce uncompensated care that hospitals now need to deliver. “You know as well as anyone that our current system is unsustainable,” said Pelosi (D-Calif.). “The final health care legislation, which will soon be passed by the Congress, will deliver successful reforms at the local level.”
  2. Meh I've heard the same wrap but I wouldn't really bother. All the mods on here are his buddies so the rules don't really apply to him. If you're gonna act like a jerkoff online then you're probably not much better in person.
  3. That's a quote that conservatives like to throw around, but it's simply not at all what she said.
  4. Yeah it wasn't the Tea Party that was screaming and yelling at their Congressmen before they even knew what the Affordable Care Act consisted of...
  5. Because everything was just hunky dory in 1989 when you were in college right? Nobody protested anything, nobody in any frat did anything embarrassing, no one ran their mouth and said something ridiculous? I love when people whine about the generation behind them. Who the hell do you think raised them?
  6. Guaran-damn-tee that if it was the President or a Democratic Senator these same posters would be leading the protest charge. Guarantee it.
  7. "And I'm peaked in high school UNT90, and I have cable"
  8. You're right, but I'm thinking more big picture than him specifically winning the last gubernatorial election.
  9. Good to see we have an politically engaged student body. If only they'd put that much work into volunteering and organizing they could have kept Abbott out of the Governor's Mansion.
  10. Civil War = slavery. Texas War for Independence = not slavery. Is that simple enough for you so you can go back to weeping over dead traitors?
  11. Oh and I'd like to just blow a few people's minds and say that I don't have problem with the governor being here for a commencement speach, even if I'd never vote for Abbott.
  12. Reluctantly because while what you said is probably true, it still sucks lol.
  13. "Silent Majority" doesn't have issue with speakers they don't agree with...unless you're a Muslim trying to hold convention in Garland.
  14. Good music never dies but I do believe in being a little too old to rock n roll. I think once these guys get to be eligible for social security they're too old for me to really enjoy their performances. That's just my opinion, but maybe I'm just a narrow minded jerk.
  15. I had a battery powered mower when I had a house and it was great. Never had to worry about changing the oil, or not having gas, or cranking the damn thing. And it was lighter, which helped considering the elevation of my yard.
  16. When I had a house I did. It was partially because I was cheap, partially because it was one of the few times I actually got outside and exercised any. It didn't make me feel any more 'manly' but it was one of those things I felt better about because I did it myself. This pretty much extends to any work I do on my car, or any repair I made in my house. I think unless I ever have the dough for some large manor I'll keep on cutting my grass.
  17. He's a big Houston Dynamo guy now who talks out of his ass when it comes to soccer. Unreal what passes for 'journalism' for that organization.
  18. I'd like a nuclear power plant to dump waste in the river and sue them before giving regulation to the government too....
  19. His only evidence is that Obama is for it. Seriously, I have pretty conservative friends who are basically championing net neutrality. A couple work in the IT industry and understand exactly what's at play here.
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