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You guys are hysterical. Can I crash at your place when you're in your underground bunkers for the next 8 years?

36%. And when Obama lets the Bush tax cuts expire they'll go back to 39%. Socialism!

Where was this liberal media when all the major networks and newspapers were beating the drums to go to war with Iraq? Oh that's right, its a farce.

The truth is that the rich will have lower tax rates than they did under that Commie Ronald Reagan. And I don't need to get along with anyone who's got their head shoved so far up their ass with rhetorical bullshit they can't see the light of day. BTW I originally quoted MeanGreendub, you jackass.

Wonder which one has pleaded guilty yet.

I didn't see any on the ballot. Oh wait, you're were being stupid. My bad.

I can't wait until November 5th when all your heads collectively explode. Nice knowing you.

Fair enough. Sometimes I can sound like a real jerkoff when it comes to threads like these and for that I'm sorry. I don't apologize for biting back after KRAM1 got personal. I'll just excuse myself from these types of threads from here on out.

Newslfash: let me know when they're writing legislation for Democratic drug bills. Malpractice lawsuits account for less than 1% of the total healthcare costs. I married a paralegal. Many of her attorneys were laid off after prop 12 because they can no longer take as many cases. And how much affect has it had on healthcare costs since they passed that bill? Simple economics also says that a plan where you're paying 50% less by going through a government-backed plan will mean that private insurance companies will have to lower their premiums to to keep up. Apparently you didn't read my quote very well. I said I backed the OPTION of people getting government-backed health insurance, not being forced to to have health insurance. That was one of the main policy differences between Hillary and Obama. link? And its costing us a lot more than any government-based insurance plan would.

Wow. Mayor of a 12 square mile city, and Governor of one of the smallest states in the union for 1 year and 9 months. Props for exposing ethics issues, but she's in a scandal of her own for firing her soon to be ex-brother in law. link? No, Mr. McCain takes the cake with that description.

You're arguing absolutes. They received a lot of requests and made a lot of grants with the overall goal of reducing gun violence. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9722.html link? The truely powerful in Iran is the Ayatollah. Meeting with Amadeinejad would be a step in diplomatic relations, but its not the end all be all. There's no flip flop in what he said and what he states now, you're arguing semantics. I don't ever recall hearing him say it has had a positive effect, but the terms do need to be reopened. signaling? WTF are you talking about? His policy since he's been running has always been for safe expansion of nuclear power. On public funding he stated he would be willing to take it if the details could be worked out with the Republican nominee. They weren't agreed upon. He didn't take public financing. How are those two statements counter-intuitive? I gave you that one. He softened up on FISA when he shouldn't have. link? His position has always been a 16 month pull-out since I can remember.

And that flew right over your head.

My wife did. We have our kids covered for about $215 with a $1000 deductible and co-pays only on doc visits. Republican lawmakers have cozied up to the insurance and drug companies for 6 years. Those same companies literally wrote legislation as well. Maybe you're an asshole who makes too many assumptions. And maybe I think that government-backed health insurance as an OPTION should be available. Seriously ill isn't the issue, everyone needs health insurance. Everyone needs the doctor. Shit, half the people that can't afford insurance don't even use a car, they take public transportation.

Anyone seeen this chick's resume? So much for the whole "Obama has no experience" memo.

And nearly 100% of white supremacists will be voting for McCain this election. See how that works?

I can only imagine the hilarity at the VP debate.

Sorry if its hard for you to take the idea that your numbers aren't carved into stone. My insurance at work costs $640 a month for my family of 4 with a $9000 deductable. Its silly to say that health care doesn't affect as many people as food or gas. Everyone has to go to the doctor once in a while. Everyone gets sick once in a while. You can try and break it down and play semantics all you want, but the proof is in the pudding. When Democrats are in the white house = more economic growth. Of course they did, but I just figured I could use a rebuttal that used an absolute just like you did. Yes. Its a magic button under his desk in the oval office. Lewinski bumped it a few times with her head. wut is collage?

I'd like some real evidence about what issues Obama has flipped-flopped on. Give me some links and some decent analysis. Seriously, I'm banking you can't find much. And I will go ahead and throw out his softness on the FISA bill, you get a freebie there.

And I could give you plenty of reports and stats that show otherwise. The problem is that you can play with the numbers any way you want. Its the same reason why there are 800 different sects of protestantism, and only 1 bible. That's just silly. Yet history in the last 100 years shows that every time a Democrat is in the White House, there's better economic growth. And microsoft doesn't employ 15 million people. Uh, yeah, after this statement I stopped reading. You can kindly go muck yourself.

talking point. talking point. talking point. talking point. Thought you always bragged about being a 'free thinker'?

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I'll bet you I'm not even British. And if I were Canadian or British I'd be a Tory. Asshat.

Wages are stagnent, health care costs are through the roof, and this administration has created 1/4th the jobs that Clinton did. But go ahead, tell this college grad who is making $11 an hour that things are fine and dandy. Have at it.

The question was whether he would vote on his original piece of legislation if it ever came to a vote. He answered no.