Tramp96

Not if you have shown that you have no patience to allow them enough time to recruit to their system and build their program. You fire a coach after two years and the list of potential candidates willing to come to your school gets cut in half or worse. Two years at that salary isn't enticing.

Shaft- I ask again... If you are going to fire a coach after only TWO years who is making one of the lowest salaries in all of college football and has the worst D-1 stadium to recruit to, and whose first recruiting class are only TRUE SOPHOMORES, then who on earth do you think would be crazy or stupid enough to want to come here when you obviously have such unreal expectations?? The answer: NO ONE You don't fire a man in the above situation after only two years if you want to have any hope of attracting ANYONE with any amount of talent or experience. No one will want to come head up a program that's only going to give him two years, the lowest salary in college football, and the worst place to recruit to. Your expectations are unrealistic and frankly ignorant.

1. You have to give a coach enough time to get his recruiting classes to upperclassmen before you can really judge. Best I can tell, Dodge's first recruiting class are true sophomores. Yeah, that's a good enough talent pool to judge a coach on (please note my sarcasm here). 2. If you did do the stupid thing of firing a coach after only two years at a place that has argueably the worst stadium in all of Division I football, who the hell do you think would WANT to replace him? You are sending a message that you not only are you going to pay him one of the lowest salaries in all of college football, but on top of that you expect him to win in year two at the hardest place to recruit to in Div 1 football? Come on people....that is simply not realistic, and you will never sell your program to a prospective coach with that type of unreal expectation. No, the answer is you give Dodge four years minimum. In my opinion, you give him three years BEYOND THE COMPLETION OF THE NEW STADIUM to really judge him. If he can't recruit and win with the new stadium, fine, can his ass. But you're paying him a year what some some college coaches make in a couple of months and asking him to recruit to a less-than-high-school quality stadium. I think you should give him more than 2 years before you judge him.

Don't forget the DE that transferred from Tech in August....Hamilton. He will be able to play next year after doing his mandatory residency. He should bring some much needed size and speed to the end of the line.

I see 3 ints and 1 fumble lost...no matter what, I am going to guess that team lost. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. In football, stats can be deceiving...but one stat is not...turnovers. Most teams don't win when they have a -4 turnover ratio in a SINGLE GAME, especially when the other team has a whopping 0. Turnovers kill.

Um, no. You don't lose scholarships after one bad APR score. You lose them after multiple bad APR scores. You cannot blame TD for the APR mess...that was all DD. RV saw the APR writing on the wall the first year it came out, but thanks to Bobby Ray telling RV and Pohl they couldn't touch DD, they didn't. I realize many here love Dickey and don't like Dodge. That's fine. But to think the APR mess isn't 100% on Dickey and Bobby Ray is to not have a clue about what really went on.

I was around. Trust me. There were no real consequences under Dickey's regime. The players might have gotten called out, but there were no real consequences. Oh, he yelled...but he yelled more at the academic counselor for his players' lack of performance in the classroom then he did the players. Did any of the players who skipped class or failed a test ever get threatened with reduce practice and playing time? No. That's the only thing that's going to get the players' attentions. Want to see an example? Look at MTSU. The first year of APR they had the worst score in all of D-1A. They then implemented a new program that had REAL consequences, not lipservice. And they had the single best turn around in one year of APR scores of any school. Dickey wouldn't buy-in to such a consequence program for his team, and now we have lost 5 scholarships thanks to the APR. Dickey did real and long term damage to this program. Don't think for a moment that he didn't.

I back Todd Dodge 100%. He inherited a program with a TON of baggage. A ton. He lost 5 scholarships this past year thanks to APR...and trust me, that was not his fault. That is what he inherited...there was no way he could have fixed that situation coming in. But that's just the tip of the iceberg, folks. He also inherited a program that had no discipline and consequences for ones actions under the previous leadership. If a player didn't go to class, Dickey didn't care...it wasn't his job (in his eyes) to care about that. Let the academic counselors worry about that (his opinion). So the players knew they could get away with what they wanted to because there were no repercussions from the coaching staff (after DeLoach left...but not even DeLoach could trump Dickey on certain things). There was no discipline within the program. But the man made it to 3 bowl games and won one of them...he had people in high places that only cared about that and didn't care about the long-term damage being done to the program itself. So guess who gets to clean up the mess? Todd Dodge. Couple that with the worst D-1 stadium in the country, and the man has quite the challenge. Yes, he could use his offense in a manner to keep the blowout scores from happening....but that's not what everyone wanted when they hired him. We all wanted a new offense....an exciting offense...an air-it-out offense...because we were tired of Dickey's Run right, Run left, PA-pass, punt offense. Well, folks, you need to understand that there is a greater risk of blowout scores when you run a spread-type offense like what Dodge runs. But he will never build the program he wants to build by not running it now. Yes, we are taking our licks, and taking some bad ones right now. But the payoff will be down the road...not now...when the offense in ingrained into the experienced players. Give him time, and give him a stadium. Remember, he not only has to recruit to the current one, but he has to do so with five less scholarships (thanks Dickey) and with 1/2 the team inherited from an undisciplined previous program (thanks Dickey). Plus, with the injuries, the man just has had some bad luck. Lastly, I will leave you all with this...Tom Osborne, King Emeritus of the State of Nebraska, took YEARS to build up the program there. You could really say decades in fact. People were more patient back then. In today's world he would've been fired after 4. Patience, people...patience.

He got his ass torn about in that BCS game, and he didn't do non-BCS teams any favors in the process. I wasn't totally disagreeing with the original post I was referencing other than that one comment. Houston and Hawaii should never be considered the highest level of college football. Briles really only had one or two good seasons at UH to begin with, and they still never cracked the Top 30. Both teams played in relatively weak conferences.

You consider Houston and Hawaii the "highest level of college football"?? If that were the case, why would they leave those schools to coach Baylor and SMU???

I thought this was going to be a post talking about the campaign Tech has initiated to do a mass-solicitation of donations from all levels: Main stadium expansion site (notice link in bottom right to give to the campaign) Stadium renderings, also with the link to give online Promotional video for the east side expansion, also including the link to give online Notice one common denominator with each website? I hope UNT does something similar.

You assume correctly.

I hope they'll be sending us that solicitation soon. I'm just trying to be optimistic that the reason we haven't been solicited yet is because they are busy working on the big donations that will be the foundation of the campaign. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic. Maybe I'm just being plain naive. But it beats the alternative!

They're still going to play A&M, but at home rather than in San Antonio (a virtual home game for the ags). Good move by the AD to tell A&M no and to stick with the original agreement to play the game in Albuquerque.

I'm an alum, season ticket holder, and a mid-range Mean Green Club member. I have yet to be asked to donate a dime towards a new stadium. Has anyone else? Right now they are courting the big dogs, and during this time (if it's handled like other capital campaigns typically are), they will keep this close to the vest and not mention a peep to anyone. Once they reach a certain amount of committments, then they hit us publically with where they are and where they need to get, and basically open the campaign up to everyone else. I'm optimistic that there has been more done in the background than we know (I have no idea if they have or haven't, just optimistic). But I can tell you that luxury boxes sell. Selling those will be no work at all, and nothing like trying to raise committments at the start of a campaign. Luxury boxes are the cash cows of college athletic programs.

Keep in mind that the addition of baseball could require the addition of another women's sport for Title 9 purposes. So underwriting baseball might not be enough for UNT to afford to bring up another men's program since, most likely, another women's program would have to be brought up along with it. You get the stadium built, however, and sell 20-30 luxury boxes plus a hundred or so Stadium club licenses, and you have new revenues that will help support the addition of two more squads.

Actually, that is incorrect. Most schools will tell you that they would have much rathered built from the ground-up if they could have, but because of space issues and/or tradition, that wasn't feasible for most. SMU built from the ground up. Building from the ground up is cheaper and faster typically than trying to renovate an existing structure. But the catch is you have to have the space to build a new stadium while you still have your old one to utilize. Most schools don't have that luxury. UNT does. If you talk to former Texas Tech President David Schmidlley, he would be the first to tell you that if Tech had chosen to build from the ground up a wholly new stadium instead of renovating the one they had, it would have been done much quicker and much cheaper than the renovation.

A lot of schools have student athletes voluntarily sign FERPA releases to allow their information to be made public. I don't agree with the policy at all, but some schools do that.

If you build it, they will come. Do you think Tech would've ever agreed to play at SMU before their new stadium? Hell, no. You build a nice, 40-45K stadium and you can attract some money games without having to take your "home" game to Arlington, Irving, or the Ghetto known as the Cotton Bowl.

We don't know where we are in comparison to UH yet because UH hasn't released their initial enrollment yet. Last I heard, they were also above 34,000 combined as well. I think we will see UNT-UH separated by only a few students this year. Both should end up over 34,000 combined undergrad and grad. The 34,268 does represent UNT and UNT-Dallas. Like 3XNTGrad says, it is considered one institution until UNT-Dallas hits the 1000 FTE mark. UNT HSC is not included. It is a separate entity.

Don't be fooled...SMU has some very decent team speed. Not OU speed, but they held their own against Tech in terms of overall team speed. I think SMU is going to be a pretty good team this year, and Monday's game against Tech is probably more an indication of the level of play of the Big XII South than it is of SMU. UNT will have to play mistake-free football and try and find ways to neutralize SMU's speed...because without a doubt, they will be one of the fastest teams UNT faces this year (not OU fast, but then, not many teams are OU fast).

Sometimes they quit. Sometimes they are forced to quit (NCAA, academics, coaches, university policies, etc). We in the public don't know which is the case typically, and really don't have a right to know either.

Both 100.7 and 88.1 are very strong and clear stations. Try listening to the Tech (95 something...The Range) and A&M (some AM station that you can't hear when the sun goes down) affiliates. Even UT's DFW affiliate is not as clear or strong as UNT's. Forget "mainstream". Be happy with the stations that carry UNT in the metroplex...they are very good. I once picked up a UNT game way out between Olney and Seymour thanks to the 88.1 signal.

If it's at 7:00pm, that's extremely poor planning on the part of UNT. Need to have it at 4:00pm so it will make the 5:00 and 6:00pm newscasts.

Remember, he's making the jump directly from HS head coach to Div. 1 head coach. A lot of people will vote that he's not a good hire for that reason alone.