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Went the John WIlliams route because: A) Beer, transportation, more beer, more transportation, more beer, ticket to football game, more transportation, more beer B) He's already got the event together and is promoting it through effective channels with super easy purchase that took under a minute C) Forty bucks Haven't heard a word from the UNT ticket office about this game. Not one word. Still waiting for the ticket office to pick up its game. Show me, don't tell me. (And honestly, past experience may actually compel me to go up to Denton on Wednesday so that I can find out on premise if my annual ticket order is correct)

Hard to find peer groups on this because nearly all graduation rate statistics I can find are six-year graduation rates. I did find data from the College Board for four-year graduation rates from 2008-2011. The lowest were UTA and Concordia at 15%. UNT was at 19% for this table. 29% puts UNT in company with LeTourneau, Schreiner, and Hardin-Simmons. The top public universities at Texas (51%), A&M (46%), UTD (41%) and Tech (34%). I do think that UNT is still fighting an internal identity battle regarding just who it wants to serve. There's the push to get to whatever the hell Tier 1 status is, Carnegie top flight research institution has been achieved, but the university seems to still want to cling to its roots of being the functional everyman's college come one, come all, let everybody who applies enter. I am of the (much disagreed with) opinion that you kinda gotta pick one of those paths. You can't have it both ways. Be more selective with applications and admissions, maybe take a short-term hit in enrollment, and climb the ladder of academic status, or keep on trucking as a functional institution that graduates people who land pretty good jobs, but lets a lot of tuition fodder fall by the wayside along the way. I honestly don't put one of these as superior to the other, but rather feel you gotta pick one and go with it. Link

Baseball is a completely different animal out west. The Big West and WCC both field some really stellar programs. None of them field football teams. All of those schools have entirely different priorities, and football isn't nearly the necessity there that it is here. I knew very little about college football before moving to Texas because I went to a baseball school (which has been seriously neglecting baseball in recent years), and unless you actually attended USC, it just wasn't all that big of a deal unless they were winning national championships, which for extended periods of time, they most certainly were not. I recall that alumni of USC and UCLA would banter each fall during rivalry weekend, but never t-shirt fans. Only alumni. It's not right or wrong, just different.

By this metric, I expect to see Johnny Jones inducted in the very near future.

Congrats man. I wish I had better words than that.

Gotta admit, that's a damn fine baseball stadium.

I can have no legitimate opinion on Dickey since I wasn't here. I just came for the popcorn.

Last time I was there was 2013, and I remember it looking like this: So it looks like there have been some pretty good upgrades since.

It's my daughter who's the good luck charm. Even during the Benford years, she's never seen a basketball loss. She starts at UNT in the fall, so I'm calling a 3 major sport sweep of the national championships.

With all due respect, you work in Denton. It's a HAUL to get up to Denton from Dallas after work.

Man, time flies since I first brought that seven-year-old little girl to the Tulsa game with me and she got scared out of the student section. I'm nine seasons in. In that time, UNT football is 34-76 overall. Of games I've seen in person, my record is 22-24. The games I've witnessed record is better than I thought it would be. 2013 made up a lot of ground in the overall picture. Hope the overall numbers are reversed in ratio by the time I get to my twentieth season. See you all at Apogee September 2nd!

I don't know if this means anything, but when I looked for hypothetical basketball season tickets, pretty much every seat in the arena was available. This is what I got looking for hypothetical football season tickets.

That kind of "News at 11" nonsense does nothing for me. Sorry AD info person. For this fan, you dropped the ball on that one. Say sometime or say nothing at all, not that you're going to say something about saying something at some indeterminate time.

Conversely, California, which has damn near made it illegal to sponsor FBS football, has 67 Juco teams. Juco truly confuses me.

I watched the first season of this show, then the first episode of season two before I decided it was just more of the same, so looked up the season record on the interwebs. But I digress. This got me to wondering why there are only five juco football teams in Texas. I was quite surprised to find such a low number given the importance placed on football in high school and 4-year colleges in the state. Hell, the middle school behind my house in Frisco had ex-NFL players on staff. Other than the obvious answer of budget concerns, anybody know why or how juco has fallen through the cracks on the state football ladder?

Now watch here as the offense rolls up R.J. Reynolds and sucks him into the pocket.

R.J. Reynolds -- he's SMOKIN'!

It would be really nice to beat them every once in a while. That whole losing to them every year gets wearisome.

Three levels of club seats: Silver, something closer to the middle, and something in the middle. For each seat, you must make a stadium donation. For silver, it's $3,125. For something better, it's $6,250. For something in the middle, it's $12,500. Again, that's per seat. Historically, we've been able to make that payment over five years. You must make a mean green club donation. For silver, I've had to pay $500 a year, but I believe that's gone up to $300 a seat once my initial stadium donation agreement is finished. The actual tickets are $375 per seat per season. The above prices are based on my own experience and may have since changed.

Just got this email. I personally don't have any need whatsoever for more seats, but I really do appreciate that they're reaching out and asking for the business. Hopefully this trend continues to solicitations for season tickets throughout the stadium, both for current ticket holders, and potential new fans. LIMITED HUB CLUB SEATS AVAILABLE FOR 2017 SEASON As a current HUB Club season ticket holder at Apogee Stadium, we want to offer you, our most loyal supporters, with the opportunity to purchase additional club tickets for the 2017 Mean Green football season. These limited seat locations will be sold on a first come, first serve basis. Do not miss this exclusive opportunity to purchase additional premium seats before they sell out!

Fair enough, but I was thinking more along the lines of whatever the hell they call the stadium in Frisco these days does with Edgefest and Jimmy Buffett as their own events outside athletics. There could very well be some university policy/redtape that either prohibits that or makes it unduly difficult. Or maybe the team just needs the stadium so much that those kinds of events would intrude on practice. Post game concerts, I haven't really been aware of that being a thing anywhere since the Beach Boys used to play after A's games in 1981.

I am honestly surprised that six years later, the only "concert" I can remember in Apogee was Reckless Kelly playing to nobody after the spring game in 2012. I'm not angry, or sharpening my pitchfork, or muttering "Same ole' UNT," or writing a condition to inheritance in my will that my heirs never step foot in Denton or anything. But I am surprised.

Wasn't it like $100 for a season ticket for young alumni when Apogee opened?