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Yep. They want to feel real important in their little pond. No criticism allowed. Obvious problems? Just ignore them. For 15 years. Everyone in the AD still the same? It's ok, because Wren's magic zen will amazingly change a culture that took years to ingrain itself. Small time continues to be small time at UNT. And a lot of folks are perfectly ok with that. Meanwhile, schools like Liberty are actually committing to winning athletics. Bet they tan our ass in both meetings. Hell, we probably scheduled them because of the sweet cash deal they gave us...

Quoted wrong person.

Getting there. Keep pushing, club boy.

They will pass you by this year. Mark it. Larry and is cheating ways are gone, and SMU will revert to its normal place in metroplex basketball. Second out of 3 behind TCU.

Details? We don't need no Freaking details!!! And we need to play Lamar all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1!

Keep pushing and you just might run someone else out of this tight little club you call UNT fandom.

Obsess much? I'd also take SMU and give the points if I were a sports betting man. Because I have a logical brain that can separate facts from idiot sports emotion. But go ahead and side with the likes of Lifer, who has predicted 8-4 or 9-3 football seasons for the last 20 years running. I mean, that's logical. Oh, and did you see Dixon landed another 4 star recruit? https://clutchpoints.com/tcu-basketball-news-4-star-feron-hunt-commits-horned-frogs/ Man, those games are gonna be fun this year. TCU goes from worst program in metroplex to best while UNT discontinues its program. 'Bout right. And yes, I still support UNT football.

Another UNT fan trying to run off A fellow fan. All over the fact that their personal politics don't jive with another college. Lord forbid people be given options on different points of view, right? Perhaps they think you suck at life. Ever consider that? Bottom line, this is sports. Religious affiliation shouldn't even be in the discussion. Second bottom line: It always amazes me how UNT fandom is like a private club and how so many, especially on this board, will do everything possible to keep it that way. With the support of this board.

It didn't push you over the edge. You defended him to the end, only to suck up to the new guy the minute he stepped on campus. so much for your loyalty, I guess. 😂😂😂😂 Adios, Mofos!

Right? Just insult, use personal details to intimidate, and walk away. Another member of Harry's Hit Squad and another reason UNT will always suck. Because you don't care if they win or not. It's kinda the mantra of the UNT fan base.

Well, I see I drew out every single loser in Harry's Hit Squad with that post. You guys are so easy. And to Mark Miller, you are the only one who uses personal information you gain through private conversations on a public message board in failed attempts to intimidate those that disagree with you. It's juvenile, dishonest, and nasty. It's speaks directly to your character. Keep sucking that UNT ass to feel good about yourself. I would be a UNT basketball fan if the had a men's basketball team. They don't. Baker disbanded it last March. Go Frogs!!! As to the rest of the losers in Harry's Hit Squad that love losing so much they defend recruiting football players with no other offers without seeing UNT is headed down a worse road than the DMac driven version, keep lying to fans as attendance and interest dwindles. I mean, you guys couldn't give a crap about winning anyway. All you care about is being a self-perceived big fish in a minute puddle. So, go ahead.

Never miss a chance at passive/aggressive shots, do you? Maybe you wanna bring up my past relationships again for messageboards points, eh sport? Good thing you never have to worry about ever learning one personal detail about me again, eh? And to Grand, any organization that blames failure on mid to low management for self preservation is doomed to failure. Early returns on Baker skew to this conclusion. Hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the same old UNT.

You are right. It happens all the time. I've seen it happen... And every single time it was in a terribly ineffective organization. No difference at the worst AD in America.

Lol. Ya, you make zero changes to management except for creating another layer and everyone claims major changes. 😂😂. Same people doing the same things will lead to exactly the same result. Already seeing it with the IPF. All Baker has done is add a very expensive layer to upper management while producing nothing. He has already delayed the IPF shortly after announcing it. Gee, those same guys who didn't do their jobs before still aren't. I mean, that's just shocking, isn't it? i doubt Baker has the power to fire Hank. I think he was told Hank comes with the job. Typical small time North Texas athletics. I've lost almost all rooting interest. I did re-up season tickets and immediately felt a sense of regret. Basketball is dead to me forever. You wonder why 99% of alumni walk away? Really?

Right. A "feeling." Because after one year that's all you have to hold on to. A feeling. Zero tangible physical proof. None. Zip. Nada. After a year. And the point was about unfulfilled promises, not baseball.

You mean like quarterly meeting plans? Or that new baseball program coming in 2011, er... 2012, er... 2013, er... 2014 plan? UNT has long been great at plans, but SEVERLY lacking at actually doing anything. This regime is the last regime, just with a new RV. Big plans, no results. That describes all of RV's tenure and all of Baker's first year. Add in zero accountability for the worst athletic department in America, and then tell me how far this has come again? But Harry's Hit Squad don't care. If you will remember, to a wet noodle, they all wanted to retain the worst AD in America. And they will fight to retain this one, even if his major sports winning percentage is less than the Hustler's (is that even possible?) after 15 years here. Last post. Back into exile, mofos!

Poor Ben. Here is the lesson to learn on this forum: No one cares about winning. Expressing an alternate opinion that demands better will get you ridicule and personal insults from Harry's Hit Squad, the same 6 or 7 miserable losers that love losing as long as they get some weird self-importance out of it. Havent looked at this board in about a month and the first thread I see is some BS "Wren is a savior" when the guy has done squat his first year. How many AD employees have been held accountable? Zero. Nitardy? Still sucking it up. Hank? Still as self important as always. Baker has shown to be no different than RV in any aspect. Same ole UNT. Adios, loser Mofos.

Again, character assasination by the same mod that gave the green light to online bully me off this forum. Read your post and mine again. Quite the stretches in truth you make there, isn't it? Ill sign off and let the circle jerk of "wouldn't it be great to go 6-6 just one year" continue. Get ready for NCAA sanctions for YOUR basketball program, because I bet they are right around the corner. Adios, loser accepting mofos.

Lol. They NEVER bear responsibility for ANYTHING in your eyes. It's impossible to know the answer to your question one way or the other at this point, but you are just fine pre-exonerating the university because that it literally all you ever do. A fine example how UNT fans always accept losing, and hence UNT will always be a loser.

The university never does wrong in your eyes. Baylor could really use your fandom. They left Benford in place for 3 years longer than any other university would have. That decision led to a possible sexual assault and a prostitution ring. Laziness begat laziness begat criminal activity Na, the barrels are all point toward the ground and shooting blanks.

Who suggested a cover up? I explained in that very post why they were responsible, did you not read that far? And are you up to your old tricks? I never compared this to Baylor. Just stop

RV is implicated. Smatresk is implicated. To a much lesser degree, Baker is implicated. All three left an undisciplined failure as head coach for 3 years longer than any other major college program would have. This doesn't happen if any one of the three had stepped up and done their job. But its UNT athletics, so no big shock that didn't happen. It also not surprising that long term fans just accept the suck and never assign any blame. It's the UNT way, after all. Get ready for some self reporting of NCAA rules violations after the law firm's review of the program. That's coming. No alternate opinions allowed. Join the circle or else!!

I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander, eh? get back to that circle.

And back to your circle... activity

The bolded is exactly correct. You know who they call when they don't have the resources? The Rangers. That's why they are there. Neither you nor I know the scope of this thing. The scope may never be known without a proper investigation. They wouldn't have a hornets nest with UNT PD, because UNT PD answers directly to the administration and may do what they are told.