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If he gets his degree, he will be eligible immediately next year. He isn't going to want to spend his final season on a team struggling to rebuild. He will have options in the WCC, the AAC and several other conferences that aren't P5s, but are huge steps above CUSA. That will raise his profile for professional contracts. Maybe not NBA, but definitely overseas contracts for really good money.

Apparently it's been erased. Wasn't on the page when viewed by regular computer.

Well, this would be a MUCH better team with both. I think Combs leaving is a done deal.

Absolutely not. He allowed him to complete a contract. That isn't "holding him accountable" for one damn thing.

I think there is a greater than 3% chance Lawson leaves. New coach will have to sell him to get him to stay. Lawson will have other opportunities.

Both guys are millionaires. Digging ditches is touch. Collecting garbage is tough. I would say it's a volatile way to make a living. But tough? No. What's tough is those two new suits Benford never got to wear.

Better hope he doesn't transfer.

Even if it was the closest set of parallel circumstances to what UNT faced with Benford, right?

A gross misunderstanding of the problems at UNT. This gives me very little hope for Baker to make it here, unless he suck perpetual ass like the last guy. Either way, it looks like AT THIS POINT another in a long line of failed hires and future failure for UNT.

Like a 5 year trend? Good lord. Comical.

It sounded good and protected the AD6?

Funny that you used these exact same excuses, isn't it. Did Baker send those to you? Lol. You don't care about winning. And I'm going to need to see that post FROM 5 YEARS AGO before I believe you ever said anything that wasn't an echo of the UNT AD.

You guys will literally buy anything. The 3 EXCUSES he gives hold no water. At all. He couldn't go back at look at film of the last 4 freaking years? Was he not a basketball coach? The evaluation was done when UNT was 0-12 in conference. Are you freaking kidding me? The best chance to win???? That's a joke, and he absolutely knows it. Building a winner going forward has zero to do with this year. Nada, zip, zilch. Unless you consider the terrible recruiting position you have put the next coach in going forward by allowing a last place finish. Building a winner going forward would be the reason to make a move, not the other way around. This gives me even more pause about Baker going forward. Pure spin. This is reminiscent of the RV "its Northern Arizona's fault" excuse for his own terrible scheduling. This is a huge misstep by Baker. He will lose trust going forward after shoveling more bull from an office that has moved a record amount the last 15 years. Tell the truth about why you do things, Wren Baker.

This. This right here. He damn sure does. Without us, he doesn't have a job. Period.

By knowing 3 former college assistant coaches. 2 of whom saw Benford coach year one as my guest when we all were trying to figure out WTF. Both told me that UNT was the worst coached team they had seen play at the FBS level. And both told me other coaches would know, because that's how the coaching community works. Now, one question for you. Can you show me one post in your long history where you disagreed with the AD about anything? Either Baker or RV. Just one post...

I don't think firing Benford halfway through year 5 when he never should have gotten year 3 or 4 would tell anyone anything other than you finally did what should have been done 3 years earlier. The coaching community is tight. They know more than anyone what a disaster Benford is as a head coach and how much rope he has been given. If anything, NOT firing Benford hurt the perception of this program with coaches, not the other way around.

Let's see, not having a coach that acts like what he thinks a coach should act like on the bench instead of actually coaching. What do I mean? 90% of all offense possessions where UNT's bench was on UNT's offensive side, Benny was up yelling at players DURING THE POSSESSION. Many times the whole possession. Who needs away fans when your coach is doing such a good job? Sit down and shut up and let the players do what you supposedly coaches them to do in practice. If you need to talk to them, do it on a dead ball or in a time out. Many times, Benfords voice was the only thing you could hear in the empty pit. Changing this one thing would help immensely. Substitution patterns is another. Free throw percentage would increase. The pressure of playing for a losing coaching that was coaching for his job would be gone. Players would actually want to play again. See quotes from Mitchell, Jones, and Alzee in the article by Vito. You seriously think the current players feel any different? The biggest joke from you guys is the fear that players will transfer if Benford leaves. I can see you don't upnderstand (or don't want to understand because you have staked out a terrible argument) the mental aspect of sports, It's huge. In basketball, especially. Changing that mental aspect would have helped this team tremendously. It's a terrible argument, but he has latched on to protect WB and won't let go.

I mean, never mind the former players' quotes about the disaster that TB was and how they didn't get up for games. They were just cancers, you see.

Everyone DID NOT think this team would have an "okay season." Others and I warned that this thing would be a disaster again. I told Harry that directly. I posted it on this board. The people who said that were echoing Tony Benford. Those that paid attention to actions (his actual coaching) and not words knew the problems. Same thing with RV. Same people either wanted him to stay or were "on the fence" about him leaving when it was clear for years he was a disaster, and many of us screamed it to deaf ears. For the record I predicted a 20 loss season. Seems I was a bit optimistic.

At least you would have demonstrated to your fans, as a new AD, that you give a crap about wins and loses. At least you would have demonstrated you weren't ok going 0-18. That is now highly suspect. I don't care if the student manager was elevated to head coach. I bet the team would have played better: But we were shoveled the same crap that was shoved down our throats for 5 freaking years. You don't care about the AD SHOWING fans he cares about winning, because you don't care about it.

We see the awful low expectations of some throughout this thread. 0-18? No problem if the AD says so. Fire Mac mid season? All behind it as long as that's what the AD wants to do. No other FBS athletic program would have let TB come back for year 5, most not for year 3 or 4. But we are UNT, where fans are perfectly happy losing because that's what they are used to and accept.

One of the AD6 must not have read it yet. ?

Great recruiter. Average coach. Wish him well.

That was for the assistant AD position that cat from Abilene Christian got. So close but yet so far.

If you go back and look, I rarely, if ever, start it. There are 6 posters on this board that attack just about everything I say. The mods have refused to address it and have even joined in on one occasion (after which I really became free game). I shouldn't be surprised. These 6 were pissed when a group of us did something that needed to be done, that they would never do. I was warned I would be vilified by a certain group, but the venom they have attacked with is pretty shocking. i think you will find all 6 down at Rock and Roll Sushi every Friday eating that Lake Ray Roberts Sushi on the house. Lol.