UNT90

Everyone seems to be in nemesis confrontation mode today. Can't we all just get along????

3-21 over two years, an apparent below average recruiting class (still hoping for last minute jewels), and no stadium announcement will do that to most people.

Agree.....but we still can't judge until Wednesday.

There needs to be a realist section, although I am optimistic for the long term.

Thank you for making the point that people see what they want to see. I thought last year's class was great. Applying the same standards to this years class, it's pretty freaking bad at this point. I don't disdain Dodge and hope that he succeeds, as that would be great for UNT. The FACT is he hasn't to this point. I don't see anything to indicate that he will this year. I hope I'm wrong. The post was not directed at any specific person on here, but apparently you thought, for some reason, it was directed at you.

More bad news. I just check the area top 100 and saw that we only have 2 recruits committed from this list. The highest being Mayberry in the late 80's. It reminded me of looking at that list when DD used to be here. Horrible recruiting year.

This team would be in 1st place if they had anything even remotely resembling a point guard.

Can I be Sweden........er Switzerland??????

can't we do North/South??

I do include Vito in this group. I think Vito would probably include Vito in this group. Notice he didn't even give very much opinion, but referenced various rankings. I don't know how you could cover a program 24/7 like Vito does and not have a positive bias toward that program.

The fake hypocrites will be unhypocritical

Whoa!!! No need to get personal. What I wrote wasn't. Do you agree that people seem to want to see things from their point of view? I am emotional about it, that's why I'll leave the evaluations to those far removed from this program such as Rivals and Scout (plus they know a hell of a lot more about it than me). As far as me being a hypocrite, feel free to point it out anytime, but please come with some kind of facts to back it up. And this was definitly not a shot at Oldtimer. I always appreciate his updates. But I think he will even tell you that he has a little bias toward UNT.

Soon we will hear from those that say "you can't trust the recruiting services" and "you don't know how a recruiting class really rates until you see them on the field" or "it takes several years to judge". These same people would have been trumpeting the success at this point last year of the greatest recruiting class ever. Just a matter of perspective, I guess. The real hypocrites will simultaneously trumpet last year's success while claiming this class is better than the experts say. It would be interesting to compare last year's post to this year's. Those with no emotional connection to this university are the best to judge this class, I'll accept their opinion over any in-house (meaning this board) evaluation.

Johnny Jones, except he was directing it at our very own Athletic Dept.

Damn that negative Brett Vito! How dare he point out that we are only rated 5th in our conference in recruiting!! He probably made all that stuff up because he hates UNT soooo much!!! This class is the best in the country, yet he dares to denegrate our greatness!! 12-0 next year!!!!

"Pain"............Clubber Lang

We have to have one before you can jump on him.

12-0!!! 12-0!!! 12-0!!! 12-0!!! 12-0!!! reality be damned!!!

I don't know. It seems that Kitrina took a pretty big piss on New Orleans. Some may say it even went #2.

This is just not our year. I think next year looks very bright, assuming we recruit an average......wait for it.........................................................................................................................POINT GAURD!

This is the problem with JUCO's. Wouldn't be surprised if we lost 1 or 2 more. The excitement slowly is replaced with cold hard reality. Mr. Vito, grow some stones. Nothing wrong with stating the truth, even if some would rather pretend everything is hunky-dory. Don't cater to that element.

My self imposed exile is over! Did we have any winning seasons or go to any bowl games while I was gone? The exile just flew by, almost like a dream!!

I want to announce that I am taking an eight hour sabattical from this damn board and all you people. You won't have me to kick around for the next eight hours!!!! Yawning as I speak, my exile will begiin any minute now...............zzzzzzzz

Kind of a give up post, isn't it? I tried to get to work today. Guess what, I succeeded. We need more successes.

Just think of how many 30-40 year old recruits we would be able to land. We wouldn't need to wait for these guys to mature or gain experience.