TIgreen01

Guess this is the first sign of condensing into one power league, not two. The league that owns the Northeast is going to be the last one standing.

The pay for play isn't new and the field has never been level. Yeah, no argument there.

This is fact. Which is why they are absolutely chomping at the bit with excitement right now. The pay to play era, free of the "cheating" label now, is something that they can absolutely do well in. You'll note that the mere mention of any kind of model to level the field, even out revenues, or add competitive balance is met by their fans like a cross to a vampire. Which I think is a great analogy for their rich donors.

Which is why that, too, will fail.

After the "deal" that the A5 schools negotiated where we pay for all of their past NIL damages, I have no earthly idea why we would ever consider granting them MORE POWER! What a bunch of spineless sacks of empty poo we are if we vote for and approve this.

For UNT I’m probably around a 3 or 4. For all of the rest of CFB (daughter goes to a P5 and wife is a big supporter of Baylor) I’m at a 0. I’m not buying tickets to or watching a game involving A5 teams after they screwed everyone and everything. The settlement they forced upon us to cover for their cheating was the last straw. I badly want a way to stick it to the A5 schools while helping UNT as much as I can.

I’m of the impression that’s what is happening. I haven’t read the fine print, but am assuming the players getting back pay are all getting a similar or standard set payment. That’s the only way to justify the non A5s paying more. Collectively there are more of us than them. Is there some way to go back in time to determine that one player’s value was more than another’s?

As others have pointed out, breaking away doesn't stop them from raiding our rosters. I'm afraid there is no going back. We all need to push for player contracts.

The Jared Mosley appearance on Matt Mosley’s podcast is posted here and worth a listen. Sounded like non-revenue sports will take a hit but football and basketball will continue on.

No to this. There are already established models all over the sports world that can be followed here in college sports. None of them punish a player for making it to a top level team. That's what this would do. Instead, the focus is usually on trying to get a return on the investment. Which means that they will want to help the player continue to develop and hope the player's value eventually meets or exceeds the contract. Allow the big schools to loan guys out, or sell for pennies on the dollar.

Now we're talking.

Hell Yes, Jared Freaking Mosley!! Standing up. Finally someone is speaking up and out. Sick and tired of watching the greedy P5,4,2 destroy college athletics. This is what we've needed. At least fight back. Doesn't mean we win, but either start fighting this crap or just throw in the towel. I hope we fight back.

Billboards and ads cost money.

I’d distill it even further. Only the schools with the richest donor base are benefiting. This is why smu is legitimately able to include themselves in this next rung. They have no fan support, and I suspect that they never will. But they are rich. Obscenely rich. That’s all it takes. If schools can’t come together to create some kind of level playing field, then it’s not really sport anymore. I see no reason to support this current version of college athletics if all it boils down to is who has the most obscenely rich donor to bankroll player salaries.

Exactly. This coming from Dykes, while he's probably actively recruiting our (G5) rosters. Anyone confused about his intentions need not be. He benefits from there being a perceived, or real split. Screw that guy.

Wrong. It is exactly the portal and NIL. I am losing interest every time I read an article talking about who won in the transfer portal. It's all the same schools just stealing the best performing players from another school. Out bidding each other. Illegally tampering. If this goes unchecked for any longer, I'm out. It's not fun to watch this crap happen. I said people were going to have to get used to just cheering for the shirt, and I've tried. It's just that you can't get away from it. Everything you read about college sports in the offseason is about who is stealing the best players for next year now. That, to me, sucks.

This is EXACTLY right. I only watch those other school's games BECAUSE we're all in the same division and are technically our competition. The minute that they are not, I ain't watching. I know I'm not alone. Bye bye tv ratings and advertising dollars. The NIL/transfer portal left unchecked is the problem right now. Start signing kids to contracts. Top recruits may only be willing to sign on for a year, but try to sign them to 2-3-4 year deals. That's the only way you're going to be able to retain talent, not burn out the coaches, and get fans to continue caring.

You guys are all delusional. I have a hard time believing that the cut-off will be 30ish teams. Its obvious that's where it is in reality, and dollars (revenue, budgets, etc). But too many of these schools have enough delusional donors who are willing to keep throwing money at it. Why does NIL make that change? I think most of you don't actually talk to any of these big money guys. They aren't jumping out....they are jumping in. And always have. Now it's legal to pay players to win...so anyone with a conscious before when it was illegal doesn't have that hanging over them now. See SMU, Baylor, etc. We're all a bunch of poor schmo's here. Look at the scroll that runs across this very site. That ain't big money scrolling through here. True some of the big donors post on here, but not the Ryans or the 4 billionaire types that fund dirty schmoo.

I think that’s too simple a view. If money is being made, then the players deserve a part in that. I have no issue with that. What I have issue with is that because there is so much money to be made now, too many bad apples have spoiled it due to inaction or inability of the collective to come together to create rules to keep the games fair. Now we have a system where everyone (players, coaches, administrations) is in it for themselves because that has become the game. It’s no longer about staying together and building a team. It’s about making as much money as you possibly can while you can. There is no sport in that.

Good job killing the fun with inaction, Presidents, ADs, everyone involved. Once sport becomes only about the money, it’s jumped the shark and time to reboot.

It already does and has been that way for a long time. I suppose you could say that the 10 or so programs who have all been buying players at an elite spending level have the differences settled by coaching and other factors, but I'd argue that the SEC and Bama have long been spending more on players under the table than anyone not named Texas. Texas gets nothing for all the money they put in and maybe throw you off the scent of what's been going on? In the 10 years that the CFP has been held, there have been 15 unique teams participate. Here's the complete list: BIG (9): Michigan (3), Michigan St (1), Ohio St (5) SEC (12): Alabama (8), Georgia (3), LSU (1) Big12 (7): Oklahoma (4), TCU (1), Texas (1), Cincy (1) ACC (7): Clemson (6), Florida St (1) Pac12 (3): Oregon (1), Washington (2) Indep (2): Notre Dame (2) Just look at the schools who have participated 3 or more times in a 10 year window. Heard anything about how those schools recruit?

I don't like the transfer portal combined with openly paying players with no limits, hate it, in-fact....but this is an odd take to me. The guy left a starting job in the Sun Belt to come to UNT. Why would he do that then? Same reason he left UNT for Cal. He already showed his hand, so nobody here should be surprised that this is his behavior.

They draw flies. BBall they could actually be a serious force b/c they won't ever have vast swaths of empty seats or have their entire stadium sold to the opposing fans. But they are never going to get back to the truly big-time b/c football will always hold them back. It, also, remains to be seen how much they would be willing to fund their program should the ACC fall apart and they found themselves back with the G5s. They fell off almost immediately after Larry Brown left.

To the first 2 paragraphs...Kim Mulkey would call him a quitter and never speak to him again. 🙂 Now...as to the last part. Not every coach is in this game to just win games. Many/most of them are in it to develop people and build relationships. This current reality is going to run some of the best off and attract a different kind of person and coach.