meanrob

get well soon coach. not to complain but is there any place we can send a get well to him directly. didn't see anything on the web site.

Alabama, Tech, CSU? No. When we played those teams they had an distinct talent advantage. Did we have the talent to beat Kansas, TCU, Arizona, and USM when we played them? Yes. By using that standard, the victories over Tech shouldn't count. 1998 Houston, Kansas 1999: UNLV, Baylor, TCU 2000: Baylor, UNLV, Samford, UL-Lafayette 2001: TCU, SOuth Florida, Troy St, 2002: Nicholls St., TCU, Arizona, South Florida, Cincy 2003: Baylor, Air Force, Troy St., Memphis 2004: Florida Atl., Baylor, Southern Miss. 2005: Tulsa, La Tech 2006: SMU, Tulsa, AKro Unless I'm wrong, in games we could've won we are 7-22. And 16 of those losses were by double digits. Again my math may be slightly off. Out of those games I think 9 teams had winning records. 9 out of 29. Hell just use the years we were conference champs 2001-2004, Dickey's best teams. We were 4-11 with one win against Nichols State. and 2-9 against non-BCS schools. yeah, i know too much info but the point is we should've won some of those games.

For that to happen you have to believe that 1) The players to make that happen are on the team right now 2) This coaching staff we have now can recruit to make that happen You think we will be better than the 2003 or 2004 team? You realise how good those defenses were? Sorry but this team isn't even close. The stars aligned for us to get some of those players and I just don't see that happening again. Add to that the FACT that we have never been even an average offensive team and i don't see how we get back to that level, much less rise above it. Jones, Buckles, Hurd, Casey, Pruitt, Kennedy, Awasome, Daniels, McGee, Spencer and more that i'm forgetting......... Sorry you missed 2003, because that's the best it's going to be for a while. And honestly it should've been better. A lot better.

yeah, you gotta hand it to the coach. throwing the ball after being down 33-7 is genius.

they went totally conservative in the second half. no reason to believe we stop them if they don't take the foot off the gas. yay, we won the second half!!!

if you guys are satisfied with that performance, i don't know what to say. we were never in the game. wow, we moved the ball sometimes after they had a 33-7 lead. no imagination inside the red zone. again. rob

yeah, i have noticed i have a really boring radio voice. i'll try and be better next time. believe me, if we would have done this Sat night i would have ranted like a madman.

By the way, in that game we beat Idaho 10-0 the wind was blowing and we only threw 11 passes or so. Coincidence? I think not.

What i would like to see are some actual ideas that UNT could implement based on our situation, history, and culture. I think that would be more productive then the pasting of random articles and people going "we should do this". We are where we are, now what do we do.

I think you mistake "team" with the word "program". Just because we had a couple of good teams like in the late 60s and mid 70s doesn't mean we had a better program in place. Just playing in Fouts alone made us a worse program. We've never had a big donor base or season ticket base. Hell, we were, maybe still are behind a school like Idaho in donor and season ticket base. We still are behind programs like Boise and ULa La. I'm not making excuses and I would much rather look forward than look behind and i'm certainly not feeling sorry for good ol NT.

I'm not making excuses, i'm just telling you we can't do it the "Louisville way". At least not in the short term. We don't have a nationally known/NCAA championship BBall program to help fund our athletic department. You want to follow Boise's plan, I'm all for it. But if you want to say "why can't we do this" and post that article, I can give you a bunch of reasons. Starting with, our BBall program costs us a lot of money, theirs makes them a lot of money. You guys want an overnight fix, well sorry it ain't gonna happen.

While an interesting article, their situation was/is nothing like ours. They were drawing 15k per BBall game. They are the only game in town in a major metropolitan area. That's a lot of money to draw from.

I'm going to a high school game but will swing by after that.

For a game that some of us having been waiting 15 years to happen, you've managed to make this just another ordinary week of NT football. Never mind that we don't like our opponent this week. Never mind that they've not wanted to play us since 1993. Never mind that college football is about passion, rivalries, and disappointments. This week is just another week. DD and Bennett are buds, god forbid anybody says anything that might be taken the wrong way. This game may not make the team's season but it sure would make a lot of the fan's season. But instead the passion is replaced by canned comments and "we gotta execute" insightful coachspeak. God forbid if we tried to sell this game as us against them. Even though that's exactly what it is. Do you guys even remember the whole "safeway parking lot" comment that a lot of us agreed with (even if Simon was looney, every blue moon he made sense)? But no, let's not say anything upsetting about our opponent. Let's not fire up the fan base or good gosh, actually fire up the team. I guess we'll just have to take for granted that your pre-game speech will be a doozy. Unlike your one to us, oh wait, there wasn't one for the fans. SMU is coming to town.....could've fooled me.

I know he only played one year (1995) of this stretch but Ron Paris or DD over Willis Hudson?

I will say this, anybody who believes in rating the bowls before the games are even played isn't much of a football fan. More like a fan of publicity or hype. Last years Liberty Bowl was a great game, the Orange Bowl was a dud. I'll take the game over hype any day.

If I had a nickel for every time we used the excuse "they shot lights out" over the past 10 years of NT basketball, I could fund us a new stadium. Heard it after the ASU game too. Sooner or later this team needs to play defense, especially perimeter defense.

Not really, you should've seen the crowd at UH when we played their a couple of years ago. Less than 1k easily.

I find this thread very amusing, but about as surprising as the sun coming up tomorrow. Nice attempt Cerebus but it's hard to use logic against the illogical. And that's putting it nicely.

UCF has been I-A for about 10 years now.

I guess so, somebody had the balls to say we would try to raise $90 million (that's the figure I remember) a couple of years back. Doesn't mean we have. I just think an AD at a place like SDSU coming out and saying they want be top 10 just means that's what he wants to happen. But hell, couldn't anybody SAY something like that. I'm curious to see who they hire. I've always had a soft spot for SDSU, almost went there myself. I just don't see it having a lot of the tangibles to become a top 25 program.

I'm just pointing out what I understand to be true, if I'm wrong you can correct me. SDSU plays at Qualcomm, a stadium that isn't theirs so they get little revenue off of it and even a good crowd there barely halfway fills it. Utah plays in a newly renovated stadium that is their own. Attendance this year was fairly even although Utah usually draws more. The last two games for Utah they drew 39 and 36k. The last two for SDSU were 26 and 20k. Their records were close too. SDSU benefitted from having UCLA come to town and playing SJSU didn't hurt either. On the same side of that argument, Utah had USU come to town. Utah is pretty much the only game in town besides the Jazz. SDSU has to deal with the Chargers. Not to mention the other thousands of things to do in San Diego. I used to live an hour away from SDSU and went to a lot of football games. It's just not a college sports town. Can that change? Sure, but it won't be easy. If it was, everybody would be doing it. I'm just over the whole rah-rah speeches.

I'm just saying it's hard to stay at the top for any non-BCS program. And in my opinion Utah has more going for it than SDSU. How about they get into the top 50 before they start talking about top 10.

Check back in 5 years and see if they are anywhere near top 10. Make that top 25. They fired a coach and made some statements. Hell, 4 or 5 years ago UNT made a bunch of big statements. For every AD that does something grand there are 10 saying they are going to do something grand. By the way, anybody see how Utah did this year?

It would be big but the momentum would be totally lost if we don't take care of business in conference. We beat Tech one year we went 2-9 and it didn't do much for attendance at the end of the year. NMSU destroyed Arizona State one year but didn't take care of business in conference. See how attendance was at the last two games of the year the year we beat Tech and hung tough with A$M. We had about 3000 for the last game of that year . I think Texas is a bad example anyway. Because sorry folks, that just ain't happening next year.