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"F+...click."

Could be right, I had a several strokes while watching them.

Liar, you don't get excited anymore.

You mean like after we went 1-11 and had the worst loss in school history it took us a whopping two years to go 9-5, beat La Tech in Ruston and win CUSA West? Did you know that since 2000 we've gone to eight bowls and La Tech has gone to nine? Granted, our lows have been lower than theirs but I'm not sure anybody cared when they went 4-8 and we went 3-9. Or do you mean when they let HOFer Kim Mulkey go because they wouldn't give her a five year contract and instead hired a 23 year old who subsequently slept with one of his players? Or that they haven't been to the Men's NCAA tournament in thirty years? Look, overall they win more than us and do a lot with a little. But forgive me if i don't have any jealousy for Louisiana Tech. No thanks. Let's see what happens over the next thirty years, especially now that we have a competent AD.

Through the first four years- Holtz took over a 9-3 ranked team and went 31-22 (regular season) in his first four years including 22-11 in CUSA . He had one P5 win (6-6 Illinois in bowl game) and went 3-0 in bowls with one CUSA division title. Littrell took over a 1-11 team and went 27-25 in his first four years including 18-14 in CUSA. He had one P5 win (3-9 Arkansas) and went 0-3 in bowls with one CUSA division title. I don't discount the difference in bowl records but considering what both took over, the difference isn't much. Holtz hasn't had a losing season after season four and is 25-14 since that fourth season. The bowl win over Miami is his only other P5 win. Both have a few questionable losses on their records but SL has a few more. Doesn't exactly make me fall on my knees and wish for Holtz but no doubt SL needs to get back to winning ball games.

Not meaning to dogpile on you but if you're talking 2018 Michigan State, there's no way they finished #11(they went 8-5) and they lost to Michigan that year. To your point, USU was very good that year. Hope we have an offense like that soon. I'm glad I'm only following this lousy bowl game online.

They lost by 7 to Michigan State.

And this Miami team throttled FSU.

I approve. But you gotta give him better talent.

Wait a minute.....due to circumstances I listened to more games than I saw this year but the ones I did see I never saw a sideline shot where it looked like SL was calling the plays. Every head coach on TV that I see that is calling the plays is obviously calling the plays. Shouldn't be a mystery.

I don't have an exact answer but I do think they should have a big event prior to football season where either people can bring friends to find out about the MGSF or invite new people to learn about the program. And no, I don't mean hearing a coach speak. The majority of people who need to be reached have no idea who even Reeder or Reffert are, they just want to have fun and be part of something.

Not to get off topic but years ago I gave more than I could afford (my wife at the time was not happy about it) and the next year when RV and crew tried to guilt me into giving more (asking for more is fine, insisting I could give more wasn't fine) I shot back with how about you guys get more donors instead of bleeding the ones who already bleed green. Wren and company are doing a much better job but we need to reach more people. It still seems like a take your money and send you email and parting gift kind of operation. Gotta do more than that.

I know this isn't a precise analytic but what I always watch for is situational play calling. The third and medium ranges, red zone play calling, short yardage situations and the like. From my eye Reeder was bad. Very bad. Harrell frustrated me with the short yardage play calling but at least he was decent in the other ranges. Reeder was throw the hat at the TV bad. Kudos to SL for pulling the trigger on something that wasn't working.

Neither has any other coach here.

I agree with most of your post but it's time to stop comparing now to the 2015 season. People use to use that line of thinking to say RV was better than Helwig. Saying that a current situation is better than the worst of the worst is not really saying much at all.

They only have four wins over FBS opponents and one was vs 1-4 ODU and the other 3-3 FIU.

All good questions. Like I said, I’m not totally in SLs corner, just want to know what his peers’ record is.

I’m not making excuses for SL but how many G5 coaches have a winning record against winning FBS teams? Two? Three?

Six games in and I just don’t see the overall talent on this team, especially on the defensive side. I’d have a hard time putting anybody on this D on some of the defenses ive seen at NT. And I’m talking SunBelt defenses If you want to blame the lack of talent on the head coach, I’m cool with that. But to me, you help him get better talent in, not automatically decide he’s a mediocre coach. Especially after the shitshow coaches we had prior to him. I say give him the opportunity to fix the problems.

After two nine win seasons we are 2-4. If he goes six and six this year, you would fire him?

So you threaten him but don’t have any intention of firing him? I don’t understand how that works. Coaches everywhere have the upper hand because after any success they get extended.

Yeah, and if you were a Nebraska fan you would have lost your f'n mind the past ten years. They just got run out of the building by Minnesota. Welcome to being a G5. If you're name isn't Boise State it is always a roller coaster. I have no problem with people complaining about individual events (recruiting, coach's decisions, losses) but if you have a magic wand that can make a G5 a 9-10 game winner every year, about 99.9% of G5 programs would love to talk to you. Attendance won't change that, firing a coach after a bad year won't change that, I'm not sure even a Boone Pickens type donation would change it (see OSU's Bball program and the trending downward football team). If it were as easy as accountability, everybody would just fire everybody when they hit a rough spot. I'm not saying this is North Texas, just suck it up and take it, I'm saying this is college football, especially at the G5 level, so suck it up and take it.

Tennessee never won an SEC championship when they had Peyton Manning. Then Tee Martin came in and won a National Championship. Who knows what happens in the coming years but we need to get better at a lot of positions not just replace one.

I would say the design of their plays is miles ahead of ours.

Good thing Tune isn't a running QB