1) Nothing here at GMG remotely resembles the sort of venom and vulgarity you'll find at BaylorFans, PonyFans, or anywhere else on the college football forum internet. 2) I recall distinctly, and a quick board search confirmed, that you posted critical remarks, frustrations with playcalling/personnel, and negatively titled posts linking to outside articles after losses while DD was still recruiting in 2006. You never said "fire Dickey", but there wasn't a whole lot of recruiting help coming from you in 2006 when YOU felt the coach should be let go (and I'd say that this post was pretty directly critical). The fact is that different fans come to the conclusion that their coach is a lost cause at different times. A lot of people are already there. They're no more wrong or out of line in vocalizing that frustration (provided they don't do it in a moronic fashion, which may be asking too much from a few of our fans here) than you were 2 years ago. This isn't a knock at OldTimer; I appreciate OldTimer and the work he does for this forum and I think he's a great fan. I hope that I'm able to support the Mean Green as long and as devotedly as he has. I made this same kind of post when Plumm got upset over similar issues. My opinion is that any player who is willing to look past the conference affiliation, look past the football stadium, look past our coach's epically disastrous tenure, look past the bad publicity and everything else that hurts us in recruiting... That player is NOT going to ignore his own eyes and ears and brain, ignore his newspaper, ignore the archive of stats and game histories available at our own school's website, but then see frustrated fans who demand more from their coaches than we're getting from the one we have now and suddenly decide not to come here. Frustrated fans on our messageboard are so far down the list of what hurts us in landing recruits... It's not even worth worrying about. We have REAL problems, not just perception issues that *might* be slightly worse (not really) than what a recruit will see elsewhere. That's what will really hurt us. Even the biggest dumbass on GMG posting "Fire Todd Dodge!" isn't worth a gob of spit in the ocean when you look at the big picture. Anyone who wants the coach fired, go ahead and say so. Just don't be a total idiot about it.