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Cool Avatar P1, I like how you incorporated both those logos. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And to the subject of the discusson, some of the trolls do need to be culled. Too many discussions now get sidetracked by their flames.

I've always followed the progress of this Bobcat from "out Cypress Creek Road". He was a high school quarterback that was recruited to play linebacker, moved to defensive end, and could never quite reach his potential because of injuries. I wish him nothing but the best and hope he stays involved with the program.

You could always throw a random picture out there for discussion.

The stadium is Eagle Stadium. It was listed as such throughout the 1950s and 60s.

Who are Eric Fentriss and Ken Washington? Are they related to Evan Fentress and Korey Washington?

I was not interested in that chick as The Nanny, I disliked her as Janice on Friends, and I hate her act pretending to be the singing heroin hag.

Tulsa University is 10% the size of North Texas and a 30K-40K stadium is sufficient for them even during their most successful seasons. The University of North Texas will have an enrollment of at least 35,000 when the new stadium is built. There isn't an immediate need for 70,000 seats but to not plan for success would be pure stupidity. Crowds of 40,000 should not only be anticipated, they should be planned. The 'perfect' stadium design ould be to take a stadium like Notre Dame's or the lower bowl at LSU as a blueprint. Build the sideline seating between the goal lines up to the press box level on the western side, matching seating on the eastern side, and a small ammount of seating enclosing the north end zone. The stadium could then systematically be expanded as needed until it formed a completed bowl. More luxury boxes and upper deck seating could be added to the perimeter of the stadium if ever needed. Putting in a 'good enough to get by' design is what got us in this Fouts mess to begin with.

What course did you expect the thread to take with nearly successive posts by nautique, Daddydumpsalot, and Dodge2007. This thread had jumped the shark long before UNTPlaymaker has even had a chance to contribute his own words of wisdom, but then again, even Schemp never appeared with all of the other three.

Cedric Hardeman was originally signed as a defensive back, bulked up, and then layed defensive end for the Mean Green. Cedric holds the UNT record for most sacks in a single game after slamming the Tulsa quarterback 14 times. Cedric Hardeman had a long and distinguished carreer with the San Francisco 49ers and retired as their all time sack leader.

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Interstate 35 traffic makes it nearly impossible to commute to and from Denton. I would bet that North Texas has a smaller percentage of commuting students than any other college in the Dallas / Ft Worth region.

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UNT is state's third largest in undergraduate enrollment and in degrees awarded DENTON (UNT), Texas -- Newly released figures from the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board show that the University of North Texas is the third largest university in Texas in all three key areas: undergraduate student enrollment, undergraduate degrees awarded and graduate degrees awarded. According to the official figures from fall 2007, UNT had 27,242 undergraduate students -- coming out ahead of the University of Houston by 747 students. UNT's undergraduate enrollment has gone up nearly 10 percent since fall 2004. UNT is also third in the state for fiscal year 2007 undergraduate degrees awarded (4,863) and master's degrees awarded (1,329). Other key findings from the THECB report: * UNT is on track to meet the Board's "Closing the Gaps" headcount targets. That initiative aims to enroll 630,000 new higher education students across Texas by 2015; * The growth rate for degrees earned continues to climb, particularly among African American and Hispanic students. There was a nearly 20 percent increase in UNT degrees earned by African Americans from fiscal year 2000 to 2007, and a more than 48 percent increase in degrees earned by Hispanic students from the same time period; * UNT has demonstrated significant improvement in its student persistence rates, particularly among Hispanic students. From fall 2000 to fall 2006 (the last year that numbers are available in this category), there was a 5 percent increase in the first-time undergraduate student persistence rate after one year for Hispanics. Troy Johnson, associate vice president for enrollment management at UNT, said, "It's important for universities like UNT to contribute to 'Closing the Gaps' goals that would bring Texas in better standing with other states. To have both growth in enrollment and in student graduation rates is particularly gratifying for the faculty and staff of UNT." UNT News Service Phone Number: (940) 565-2108 Contact: Rafael McDonnell 940-565-4835 Email: RMcDonnell@unt.edu This post has been promoted to an article

I only read this idiotic speculation from a message board newbie; hardly a credible source and quite possibly a troll.

Hall-of-Famer "Mean Joe" Greene had a stellar playing career at North Texas before a 13-year career with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Prejudice failed to beat 'Mean' Joe Greene Football fans know "Mean Joe" Greene for his Hall of Fame career with the Pittsburgh Steelers. During his career he won four Super Bowls and earned 10 Pro Bowl selections. It all started for Greene at the University of North Texas, where he became one of the best defenders in Texas college football history. Greene was born in Elgin in 1946 but grew up in Temple. He towered over his high school teammates and opponents alike at 6 feet 3 inches tall with 225 pounds of muscle. He should've been a force on the Dunbar High School football team, but Greene, who would later become known for his uncommon aggression in the pros, was afraid. "When I started playing, I was very timid," Greene said. "I used to get beat up quite a bit, on and off the field. But something happens when you're out there on the field: You want to win. You're oblivious to everything else. Eventually, my desire to win overcame my fear." Soon he was the one handing out the beatings, but Greene's desire to excel also had to overcome the humiliation of segregation. Dunbar shared the football stadium with the local white school, but Greene and the rest of his teammates weren't allowed to use the locker rooms. They dressed in the gym and spent halftime in the end zone. For his entire high school career, Greene only dressed in a locker room once: When Dunbar traveled to Corpus Christi. Eventually, word spread about the big kid from Temple. Unfortunately, Greene had little hope of joining the Southwest Conference, of which UT and Texas A&M University were members. When Greene was looking at colleges in 1964, the conference members still refused to integrate. It would take two years before black athletes could compete at the varsity level in the conference at Baylor and Southern Methodist universities. It wasn't until 1970 that a black student lettered at Texas. North Texas was far ahead of its time in accepting black athletes. Its football squad became the first integrated athletic team in the state in 1956, when heralded running back Abner Haynes joined. Eight years later, Joe Greene saw a picture of Haynes in North Texas' college catalog, and he had a good idea of where he wanted to go to school. He wrote a letter to the North Texas coaching staff and scheduled a visit. As he headed toward the coaches' room, he stopped and ducked into a restroom. "I just started doing push-ups on the restroom floor," Greene said with a laugh. "I don't know what came over me, but I did them for about five minutes." By this time, Greene was a burly 235 pounds and was wearing a sweatshirt with the sleeves cut off to show off his arms. When he was done with his exercise, he strode into the coaches room, flexed his muscles and gave the assembled staff a start. "I remember they all stood up and said, 'You've got a scholarship!'" Greene said. Because of NCAA rules at the time, Greene wasn't allowed to play his freshman season. With him on the bench, the North Texas defense was humiliated by Texas - El Paso 61-15, allowing 665 yards of total offense. But the next year, Greene started against UTEP, and the North Texas defense held the Miners to -44 yards rushing and won. That game was the start of North Texas' era of dominant defense, during which they earned the moniker "The Mean Green." The name stuck to the flagship player on the team, Joe Greene, who was quickly establishing a ferocious reputation. "He was mean when he put on the helmet," said teammate and close friend Chuck Beatty. "He had a whole different intensity. But everybody who played on that defense was mean!" With Greene, the 1966 North Texas "Mean Green" defense was the best running defense in NCAA history. Opponents only averaged 1.6 yards per carry against them, a collegiate record that will possibly never be broken. Greene grew to 6 feet 4 inches and 270 pounds, and he only got better. In 1968, he was selected as a consensus First-Team All-American. He was drafted fourth overall in the 1969 NFL Draft by the Steelers, and the rest is football history. Though he suffered prejudice, Greene preferred to focus on the opportunities he did have. "I can't recall any particular tackles or plays from North Texas," Greene said, "But it's the experience and the love for the university. That's what has lasted."

I'm thankful that thing fell last night, this is like an answered prayer before we even asked. If it hadn't fallen it may have remained standing until there were people sitting on it....and under it. It may wind up comically overly reinforced, but it will be safe for our Fort Worth brethren.

That's lower than I expected. Hollivay played both ways in high school but recruiting analyst Max Emfinger had him listed as one of the top 25 nose tackles in the country prior to his senior season. He concentrated his efforts on the offensive side when there was a need there in junior college and started his freshman season. side note - Hollivay also went to state in the shot put and discus events.

Check out the WFAA web site; there's an interesting series of pictures showing a player wearing McNeil's jersey punching the Gilmer High School coach after Roosevelt lost the playoff game. WFAA News Oh, and they haven't announced the student involved in this, Roosevelt Scandal, but there were a lot of blurred images of a scrambling quarterback on the news screen. Of course nobody is guilty until proven to be so, but I think it's safe to assume that there's an ever so slight chance that Vincent 'PJ' McNeil may not fit the model student image that Todd and Johnny are looking for. But that's not to say that nobody is interested in this kid. Thread on Vincent McNeil

Damn! I just about sprayed Diet Coke on my monitor.

The Furor Of Cowboys Fans Yeah, what they said. I had posted this historically important link on the non-football forum but I don't think many people saw it there. As Bulkhalter would say, "very interesting".

I absolutely hate these black shirt games. Hopefully we can get out of this with a little dignity and Miami and LSU can just play each other.

The TCU board is very different than the SMU board. Although all college message boards have their own cast of buffoons and trolls, the majority of the TCU posters are pretty sports savvy, often presenting situations from a humorous point of view. In contrast, the SMU board is, with a few exceptions, populated by a small handfull of snots that always act like they're yelling insults from behind mommy's apron.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I was beginning to think that nobody appreciated my attempt at spreading a little humor. I about did a spit-take with the T.O. jersey rant.

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