NCMeanGreen

Yes Master...is that all we can do for you? We just want to be worthy to be able play you. The SEC...oh, that's right, you are in the frickin' WAC, yet another non-BCS conference, just like the Belt. You know, I think we have been pretty gracious and courteous to you, and all you have been is an obnoxious jerk there guy. Is there REALLY that big a difference amongst us non-BCS schools? Not really...we are not an LSU, OU, USC, etc. Let's just accept the fact that after the Top 50 teams...which you guys are not, it really is almost a crap shoot as far as who is better. The SB and NT are NOT here to serve you dude!

MAN...why did you have to go and do that!?!? Now I am truly depressed about our stadium situation. You are right...I could have sworn that second picture was Fouts. I thought you were using it as a reference point for comparison until I realized that it was not Fouts. Pretty impressive HS football stadium, though. I WANT OUR NEW STADIUM TODAY!!!

My back yard is probably big enough...but it is @ 18 Hours away!

OK Plumm...you win. This is the LONGEST post I have ever seen on this Board! Do we have an award for Longest Post? We should...and this one would win, for sure!!!

Off ASU's Board: "QUOTE (JSinLR @ Jun 27 2005, 09:57 AM) ULM's Stadium is not that bad...at least you can see the field good. UNT has the worst stadium in the SBC...so far...have not seen FIU or FAU stadiums and they could possibly be be worse than UNT. ASU, MTSU, ULL, & Troy all have nice stadiums. I agree the stadium at North Texas is a joke. However I will trade stadiums for their record any day. JMOFO" OUCH! That hurts. But, yes, I would rather have a winning record than a beautiful stadium. But wait! Can't I have both. Is that too much to ask????

Did anyone expect Troy to finish second in the SB...losing not once, but twice to SB teams????

You should be so proud. My daughter is 3 and my son is 18 months, and they already are true Mean Green fans. I do not want them to go away from home for college...but going to NT would be alright!

Man, I LOVE that clock. Where can you order one?

I did the same, as I listed them both starting RBs. The real question is if they will be in the same backfield together, or if they will just spell each other.

1st Team...Second String...Third String...etc.

La Mo, huh. YOU BASTARD!!!

I would give my right kidney, my next born, my... OK...I wouldn't do THAT, but I would REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY like him to be able to play this year. P.S. Was that enough really's??? Did I sound pathetic enough?

SAY IT ISN'T SO!!! I thought Max's son would have done real well for us...

Player Info Pos. No. Yr Wt. Rank 69 Adams, David DT 5-10 265 Fr. Garland, TX (North Garland HS) DT 69 Fr. 265 5 13 Agbottah, Kartay DB 6-2 180 Fr. Irving, TX (MacArthur HS) SS 13 Fr. 180 1 58 Alexander, Josh OL 6-3 282 So. Fort Worth, TX (Southwest HS) OL 58 So. 282 3 70 Amacker, Brian OL 5-11 267 So. Duncanville, (Duncanville HS) OL 70 So. 267 2 54 Banks, Ajani OL 6-3 325 Fr. Spring, TX (Spring HS) OL 54 Fr. 325 2 18 Barger, Matt DB 6-2 186 So. Keller, TX (Keller HS) DB 18 So. 186 3 29 Bazaldua, Nick PK 5-10 171 Sr. DeSoto, TX (DeSoto HS) PK 29 Sr. 171 1 38 Benjamin, Chris PK 5-9 178 Fr. Argyle, TX (Argyle HS) PK 38 Fr. 178 4 21 Bishop, Roy WR 6-2 227 Sr. San Angelo, TX (San Angelo HS) WR 21 Sr. 227 3 34 Branch, Ja'Mel DB 5-7 171 Sr. Katy, TX (Katy HS) CB 34 Sr. 171 2 84 Brown, Charles TE 6-4 235 Fr. Muskogee, OK (Hilldale HS) TE 84 Fr. 235 2 60 Brown, Jeremy OL 6-5 299 So. Tecumseh, OK (Tecumseh HS) RT 60 So. 299 1 50 Brown, Lawrence LB 6-3 210 So. Houston, TX (North Shore HS) LB 50 So. 210 4 89 Burruss, Blake DE 6-7 252 So. Oklahoma City, OK (Westmoore HS) DE 89 So. 252 2 35 Bush, Antoine DB 5-11 170 Fr. Tyler, TX (John Tyler HS) DB 35 Fr. 170 3 5 Byerly, Joey QB 6-4 254 So. Orange, TX (W. Orange-Stark HS) QB 5 So. 254 1 19 Carter, Tyrone DB 5-8 176 Jr. Hillsboro, TX (Hillsboro HS) DB 19 Jr. 176 3 85 Chaney, Jimmy TE 6-5 260 Jr. Inola, OK (Northeastern Oklahoma A&M) TE 85 Jr. 260 3 90 Chapman, Jeremiah DE 6-4 245 So. China Springs, TX (China Springs HS) DE 90 So. 245 1 39 Chatman, Desmon DB 6-2 190 Fr. Conroe, TX (Conroe HS) DB 39 Fr. 190 3 86 Clay, Lee LB 6-3 212 Sr. Mount Pleasant, TX (Mount Pleasant HS) LB 86 Sr. 212 4 43 Cobbs, Patrick RB 5-9 205 Sr. Tecumseh, OK (Tecumseh HS) RB 43 Sr. 205 1 53 Colbert, Isaac LB 6-1 234 So. Houston, TX (Aldine HS) LB 53 So. 234 4 59 Collins, David DE 6-4 210 Fr. Kennedale, TX (Kennedale HS) DE 59 Fr. 210 5 63 Cooley, Chad DE 6-2 228 So. Waxahachie, TX (Waxahachie HS) DE 63 So. 228 4 13 Cooper, Derrick DB 5-9 184 Fr. Wichita Falls, TX (Hirschi HS) DB 13 Fr. 184 4 24 Cotton, Roderick DB 5-10 202 So. Nacogdoches, TX (Nacogdoches HS) FS 24 So. 202 2 83 Covington, Roy WR 6-1 180 Fr. Dallas, TX (Skyline HS) WR 83 Fr. 180 4 8 Covington, TaRon DB 6-2 190 Sr. Coffeyville, KS (Kansas Community CB 8 Sr. 190 1 10 Cox, Deavin DB 5-9 195 So. Dallas, TX (Bishop Lynch HS) DB 10 So. 195 3 76 Crumes, Jack OL 6-4 270 Fr. Houston, TX (Eisenhower HS) OL 76 Fr. 270 3 48 Davenport, Ryan LB 6-2 225 Fr. Fredricksburg, TX (Air Force LB 48 Fr. 225 4 88 Davidson, Beau TE 6-4 230 Jr. Katy, TX (Syracuse) TE 88 Jr. 230 5 43 Dubose, Drew OL 6-2 244 Fr. Humble, TX (Humble HS) OL 43 Fr. 244 3 97 Durodoye, Raifu DT 6-1 237 So. Denton, TX (Denton HS) DT 97 So. 237 2 46 Early, Shawn LB 6-0 215 Sr. Jacksonville, FL (Ribault HS) OLB 46 Sr. 215 2 54 Elmore, Gary OL 6-2 290 Jr. Saginaw, TX (Michigan State) OL 54 Jr. 290 2 65 Emfinger, Nicholas OL 6-2 270 Fr. Kemp, TX (Alabama) OL 65 Fr. 270 2 84 Fitzgerald, Casey WR 5-11 169 Fr. Red Oak, TX (Red Oak HS) WR 84 Fr. 169 4 72 Foster, Joel OT 6-4 268 Jr. Austin, TX (Connally HS) LT 72 Jr. 268 1 9 Gilmore, Eddrick TE 6-5 250 Fr. Houston, TX (Alief Hastings HS) TE 9 Fr. 250 1 73 Glass, Bryan OL 6-0 280 Fr. Paris, TX (Paris HS) OL 73 Fr. 280 3 36 Graves, Phillip LB 6-2 211 Jr. Hutto, TX (Hutto HS) ILB 36 Jr. 211 4 62 Gray, Frank OL 6-1 285 Jr. Allen, TX (Huntley HS) OL 62 Jr. 285 3 2 Green, Dominique DB 5-11 175 Fr. Lawton, OK (Eisenhower HS) DB 2 Fr. 175 3 7 Hall, Gerrod DB 6-1 183 Sr. Allen, TX (Allen HS) DB 7 Sr. 183 4 69 Harmon, Robert TE 6-4 265 Jr. Houston, TX (Kashmere HS) TE 69 Jr. 265 4 35 Harvey, James RB 5-10 200 Fr. Houston, TX (Madison HS) RB 35 Fr. 200 4 44 Haskins, Demarcus DB 6-0 173 Sr. Douglasville, TX (Linden-Kildare HS) DB 44 Sr. 173 4 14 Haynes, Kellen QB 6-0 200 Fr. Crosby, TX (Crosby HS) QB 14 Fr. 200 4 17 Henderson, Keronna FB 6-0 225 Fr. Carthage, TX (Carthage HS) FB 17 Fr. 225 2 45 Higgs, Cliff DB 6-1 222 So. Sanger, TX (Sanger HS) SS 45 So. 222 2 41 Holman, Maurice LB 6-1 225 So. Mt. Vernon, TX (Mt. Vernon HS) LB 41 So. 225 4 32 Hopovac, Denis PK 5-10 181 Sr. Dallas, TX (W.T. White HS) PK 32 Sr. 181 2 92 Hull, Ronald DE 6-3 258 Jr. Sugar Land, TX (Elkins HS) DE 92 Jr. 258 3 98 Hutchinson, Eli DE 6-4 240 Sr. Oklahoma City, OK (NE Oklahoma A&M) DE 98 Sr. 240 2 6 Ieans, Jonathan QB 6-5 218 So. Houston, TX (Madison HS) QB 6 So. 218 6 49 Jackson, Brandon WR 6-1 190 So. Fort Bend, TX (Austin HS) WR 49 So. 190 2 9 Leary, RIchard LB 6-2 208 Jr. Copperas Cove, TX (Blinn JC) LB 9 Jr. 208 4 66 Lineberry, Dylan OL 6-3 310 Sr. Houston, TX (North Shore HS) RG 66 Sr. 310 1 40 Mahan, Colt LB 6-1 205 Fr. Keller, TX (Keller HS) OLB 40 Fr. 205 3 64 May, Jason OL 6-4 295 Sr. Graham, TX (Graham HS) LG 64 Sr. 295 1 27 McNac, Arther LB 6-0 260 Sr. Muskogee, OK (NE Oklahoma A&M JC) ILB 27 Sr. 260 3 7 Meager, Daniel QB 6-1 180 Fr. Richardson, TX (Pearce HS) QB 7 Fr. 180 2 51 Mendoza, Derek LB 6-1 248 So. Hereford, TX (Hereford HS) ILB 51 So. 248 2 52 Miller, Chris DT 6-1 270 Sr. Stillwater, OK (Stillwater HS) NT 52 Sr. 270 1 65 Miller, Joseph DT 6-3 275 Fr. Pflugerville, TX (Pflugerville HS) DT 65 Fr. 275 5 37 Mitchell, James RB 5-9 192 Jr. Aubrey, TX (Liberty Christian HS) FB 37 Jr. 192 1 27 Mitchell, Montrail DB 5-9 195 Sr. Ft. Worth, TX (Western Hills HS) DB 27 Sr. 195 4 4 Monroe, Brandon LB 6-2 220 So. Electra, TX (Electra HS) OLB 4 So. 220 1 30 Moore, Kevin RB 5-9 193 Jr. Houston, TX (North Shore HS) RB 30 Jr. 193 3 3 Muzzy, Zach WR 5-10 175 Jr. Alvin, TX (Alvin HS) WR 3 Jr. 175 2 17 Nelson, Brian DB 6-0 189 Fr. Arlington, TX (Summit HS) DB 17 Fr. 189 4 23 Nevins, Chris RB 6-3 224 Jr. St. Charles, MO (Howell Central HS) RB 23 Jr. 224 5 31 Nwigwe, Joel WR 5-11 180 Jr. Houston, TX (Alief Elsik HS) WR 31 Jr. 180 1 44 Nwigwe, Tobe LB 6-2 240 Fr. Houston, TX (Alief Eisik HS) OLB 44 Fr. 240 1 1 Oubre, Gary DB 5-9 170 So. Coffeyville, KS (CC) DB 1 So. 170 3 68 Patterson, Ephraim OL 6-3 280 Sr. Crosby, TX (Crosby HS) OL 68 Sr. 280 2 39 Payten, Jarret RB 5-8 206 Jr. Plano, TX (Plano West HS) RB 39 Jr. 206 6 69 Peachey, Robert DT 6-5 270 Fr. Georgetown, TX (Georgetown HS) DT 69 Fr. 270 4 18 Phillips, Matt QB 6-1 220 Fr. San Angelo, TX (Lakeview HS) QB 18 Fr. 220 5 95 Pistole, Chase DT 6-3 260 So. (Northeastern Oklahoma A&M) DT 95 So. 260 1 56 Pruitt, Sky DT 6-2 295 Jr. Hayden Lake, ID (Lakeland HS) DT 56 Jr. 295 1 81 Quinn, Johnny WR 6-0 199 Jr. McKinney, TX (McKinney HS) WR 81 Jr. 199 1 93 Ransom, WIllie DE 6-3 250 Jr. Coffeyville, KS (Kansas CC) DE 93 Jr. 250 1 94 Raymond, TJ DT 6-2 310 So. Grand Prairie, TX (South Grand Prairie HS) DT 94 So. 310 3 47 Rexrode, Tye DE 6-3 200 Fr. Comfort, TX (Comfort HS) DE 47 Fr. 200 3 22 Robertson, Evan RB 5-9 160 Fr. Pflugerville, TX (Pflugerville HS) RB 22 Fr. 160 2 67 Rose, Chad OL 6-3 285 Fr. Round Rock, TX (Westwood HS) C 67 Fr. 285 1 80 Smith, Isiah WR 5-8 195 Fr. Denton, TX (Denton HS) WR 80 Fr. 195 5 25 Smith, Ricardo DB 6-1 213 So. Fort Worth, TX (Paschal HS) DB 25 So. 213 3 27 Spencer, Truman PK 6-3 200 Fr. Mesquite, TX (Horn HS) PK 27 Fr. 200 3 26 Starks, Cass DB 6-1 205 Sr. Denton, TX (Ryan HS) DB 26 Sr. 205 3 79 Stevenson, Montey DE 6-2 267 So. Alvarado, TX (Alvarado HS) DE 79 So. 267 4 61 Stewart, Jonathan DT 6-2 260 Fr. Arlington, TX (Seguin HS) DT 61 Fr. 260 4 82 Stickler, Brock WR 6-3 210 Fr. Lampasas, TX (Lampasas HS) WR 82 Fr. 210 3 15 Stubblefield, Arthur DB 5-10 180 Fr. Houston, TX (Eisenhower HS) DB 15 Fr. 180 3 91 Thomas, Isaac DT 5-11 290 Fr. Mansfield, TX (Summit HS) DT 91 Fr. 290 3 20 Thomas, Jamario RB 5-11 195 So. Longview, TX (Springhill HS) RB 20 So. 195 1 42 Thompson, Travis LB 6-2 225 Sr. (NE Oklahoma A&M) ILB 42 Sr. 225 1 39 Tucker, Hunter DB 5-9 169 Fr. Wichita Falls, TX (Wichita Falls HS) DB 39 Fr. 169 4 77 Vanderslice, Robbie OL 6-4 265 Sr. The Colony, TX (The Colony HS) OL 77 Sr. 265 3 22 Vaughn, Jared DB 6-1 203 Jr. Allen, TX (Allen HS) DB 22 Jr. 203 3 74 Venegas, Adam OL 6-3 305 So. Olathe, KS (Olathe North HS) OL 74 So. 305 2 10 Walthall, Christopher DB 6-0 200 So. The Colony, TX (The Colony HS) DB 10 So. 200 3 16 Warren, Steve QB 6-1 190 Fr. Burleson, TX (Burleson HS) QB 16 Fr. 190 3 18 Washington, Korey DB 5-10 185 Fr. Cedar Park, TX (Cedar Park HS) FS 18 Fr. 185 1 38 Weathers, Aaron DB 5-11 198 So. Coffeyville, KS (CC) CB 38 So. 198 1 96 West, Micah DT 6-3 280 Fr. Irving, TX (Mac Arthur HS) DT 96 Fr. 280 2 32 Williams, Jon LB 6-0 210 Fr. Eastland, TX (Eastland HS) LB 32 Fr. 210 4 Freshman 42 Sophmore28 Junior 20 Senior 20 TOTAL 110

I think it is difficult, at this point, for any of us to even appreciate the affect Cobbs spelling Thomas, or Thomas spelling Cobbs will have on our gameplan and on opposing defenses. I like the prospect of either a fresh JT or PC out on the field at all times. Oh, BTW, hopefully they both can spell V-I-C-T-O-R-Y often this year!!!

Sounds like we are definitely gaining more respect. I believe even two years ago it would not have been like this, with these type of responses. Yes, C-USA would be nice. Building the Belt would be nice too. I am happy where we are as long as we keep growing and, more importantly, keep winning!

Ohhh...I thought NT was one of the five for a second there!

YES!!!!!!!! That is the ULTIMATE! I would kill for a stuffed pizza from the Flyin' Tomato right now. We do not have anything like that here. That is still my favorite pizza, and always will be.

I have no further comment, since I agree with everyone. The thing that gets me is that I have been on Troy's board, FAU's board, MUTS board, etc. and have seen several comments where the SB stinks, we need to get out, we are floating this league, etc. If anyone would be able to say such things it is UNT. But, you know what, I can honestly say that we are humble, and realize the opportunity that we do have in the SB. It is not the best Conference (it is, however, better than the MAC...so I am confused, for one thing, why Selig would rather be in the MAC than the SB), but it is getting better. If we hang in there, and do stay in the SB, I think you will see in several years more national respect and the acknowledgement that we are a good conference and can compete with the best of 1A. I just get sick of all the grandstanding, the SB bashing, the hypocrasy, the ignorance, etc. BUILD THE BELT...GO MEAN GREEN!!!

Good point. I find it hard to believe that the WAC is doing much better than us. As soon as Boise State and Fresno State fall down a few pegs, and they will, nobody in the WAC will replace them and they will fall below the Belt.

...or first...

VERY well put. That is what this season is all about. Does anyone really expect us to beat LSU and K-State? Hell no. BUT, we will get MUCHOS National respect if we beat La Tech and Tulsa. Those two games will get us over the hurdle...

I kept my drinking cup and have some left over nachos from the 2001 victory over NMSU...if anyone is interested.

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Yeah...right when the SB race starts! That is the point, though. We need to win those early season OOC. I think some sports writers are getting numb to us smacking the Belt each year...