Harry

"The series will begin with a game at Apogee Stadium in 2019. The Mean Green will play at Houston in 2020." GREAT news!! 2 for 2 against an instate opponent who will bring many fans to Apogee. Kudos to Wren!

You have the right to your opinion but respectfully that is a cop-out. It's an excuse. We've been down that road before. Things aren't hard at North Texas. If your system isn't working or needs to be improved you make adjustments. We all know that we have many, many advantages when compared to other schools in C-USA. All we are asking is that those be utilized. i think we have one of the best academic universities, facilities, coaching staff, location and growing enrollment. DFW is a great place to live and work after football ends. I do think the missing ingredient is consistent winning and that will come. You can take the fan feedback on recruiting as unfounded and unfair criticism or you can realize that winning recruiting helps build excitement in your program and connects you closer to your fan base. Our fans are realistic. They know we aren't going to win recruiting battles against p5 schools (right now). They do expect to win recruiting battles in C-USA. And why not? We have a great product to sell and should be at the top of this conference. I have no problem with us having high expectations in recruiting. GMG

YES!

Man the atmosphere for that game was intense. Having a heisman QB in the house didn't hurt. What a great night it was. Hope for even better ones in the future.

I hear you and you make a valid point. I will say that in the past there are kids with minimal offers who "heat up" and start getting heavy interest. Sometimes it is smart to offer said kid knowing that he likely will get some other offers from major programs in the near future. In the end there just aren't that many kids with these types of measurables that you can land this early.

Give Jalie Credit - she never stops recruiting the transfers and adjusting the lineup. Hopefully we will see the results of her efforts this season. It has not been from a lack of effort.

Thanks for the info!

Welcome John! Glad to have you here.

Welcome to the program Cole!

Good points and I would throw Jaelon into that mix of intriguing players. There are possibly some others. If Littrell could somehow get us to 7-8 wins this thing could explode.

Boy, if this works out it will make everyone at UNT look damn smart. If it doesn't, well we know how that turns out. I lean towards being glad that we seem to be really trying to step up to the plate here. I also can't help but think Littrell is one of those rare guys who could land an OC spot at a monster program and easily make 6-7 figures like Venables, Grantham etc... As a comparison, Lincoln Riley at OU made $500K his 1st season at OU and they just bumped him 400K to 900K annually. So in essence Littrell had them by the sack when his staff got poached and he realized that this place as many G5's can be a revolving door for assistants. I have no proof, but I still maintain some big school was sniffing around for Littrell, and this forced UNT's hand. History says this is the case. If we proactively did this deal prior to it actually happening I would be extremely impressed and proud. I still maintain, you can have a high paid head coach and still struggle if you don't feed your assistants to the level necessary.

"UNT's coaches told track and soccer recruits the venue would be ready in time for their first season competing for the Mean Green." This is disappointing.

It may be that they have a new found confidence in Shanbour which is not a bad thing.

Not a good sign.

Nice list! Excited about the future.

You mean Luke Falk? He is 6-4. And WSU is in the Pac 10 a p5 conference. So while I agree a lot of teams missed badly on him, it's not an apples to apples comparison. Please don't interpret my post as any criticism of Shanbour whatsoever. I wish him well - he's one of ours. I hope he's the second coming of Scott Davis, Mitch Maher, etc... I admire him a lot. My post was just to point out that from a recruiting perspective we haven't been able to parlay the Littrell/Harrell/Air Raid connection to lure a top level QB prospect to this point. We may very well in time. Right now we have two 6-foot QB's at #1 and #2. And while I want them both to break records at UNT I think that needs to change in future years. I was very clear that I felt we needed an insurance policy juco/grad transfer in the case that Fine and/or Shanbour got hurt. We haven't done that yet although the jury is still out on Isadore. I don't want us to have to feed Pearson to the wolves if we can avoid it.

The biggest issue that I see with the new Littrell/Harrell regime is the quarterback position. Sure Fine played well, especially given the o-line issues and lack of playmakers at wide receiver. But the fact is he had no other major D-I offers and at his size injuries will always be a concern. And our current #2, Shanbour is a great story of perseverance; yet he will have one year of eligibility left and has played not one down of D-I football. True freshman Cade Pearson put up huge numbers at Texarkana and was able to participate in Spring drills. He has some ability but other than Wyoming, most of the schools who were interested in him were McNeese, SFA, and Northwestern State. He may well turn out to be a diamond in the rough. Juco Devlin Isadore was once a highly sought after prospect. After his knee injury he became damaged goods and was not even able to participate in all of the spring drills. I am not aware that he had any offers after his injury. The Alec Morris signing last season gave one a glimmer of hope that that North Texas and it's air raid staff would become a place where talented quarterbacks would want to be. Guys that other D-I schools wanted. And I think we all realize these things take time. Iron Mac and Chico's run first offense was in hindsight not considered a haven for QB's looking to put up big numbers. And Rome wasn't built in a day. I had held out hope that they could pick up a graduate transfer late but as we are 100-days before football is back time is not on our side. Hopefully, North Texas will be able to bring in a high level prospect at the quarterback position with multiple offers in this next recruiting class. It would seem that by having coaches like Littrell and Harrell as well as a very prolific offensive system in place that this should be possible.

I agree we must learn from history no matter how painful. Other than that what good does looking back do really? I think we need to look forward and try to stay positive.

Way back in 1978 North Texas State was one of the most successful programs in the State. But kids, this state was run by the Longhorns in Austin and if you wanted credibility beating Texas was your ticket. NTSU had their shot on October 14, 1978 at Memorial Stadium. Get me the Hayden Fry Bullets! - NTSU finished 1978 with a 9-2 record, giving them an 18-4 two year run. And yet they weren't invited to a bowl game. The 2016 North Texas team won 5 games and got to enjoy the wonders of the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Millennials are ruining everything. - More on this in a later post but NTSU coach Hayden Fry was working tirelessly to get the Screaming Eagles a SWC bid. It was his focus. Well that and beating SWC teams every chance he got. read more: https://swcroundup.com/news/2017/5/24/throwback-thursday-1978-north-texas-vs-texas?utm_content=bufferd385f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

I really hope this is true.

Makes me wonder if we could do a "Apogee Stadium at X Field" type of deal. Sort of like "Darrell K Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium at Joe Jamail Field". There is a lot of growth in DFW now and it would be cool if we were able to leverage another corporate or name sponsor into the stadium to help us build facilities. I just think naming rights need to be looked at constantly. The IPF being another example.

Saw this on twitter and it got me to thinking about Apogee.... What's the latest on our relationship with Apogee and the naming rights etc? Anyone know? I know it was a long term (20 year 20 million) deal but it seems like there would could be some future negotiations possibilities down the road.

Tailor made for SMU, Tulsa, Houston etc... should get a great opponent with their proximity to many school alums. good move for AAC.

Counting this one that would be 16 with Rheinhardt leaving. 6 of them appear to be preferred walk-ons. You add 5 in the 2017 signing class. Yes it is a lot but personally I really like it. Before this offense can really take off they have to address the oline and get it right. Part of the problem is they have had guys that were built for Mac's run first oriented offense. So there is a transition going on and I expect the numbers to normalize as they get more linemen who fit their system in place and established.