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The NTExes are looking for all individuals who would like to serve on chapter Board of Directors; especially in Dallas and Tarrant counties. I know some here have inquired about getting involved in a Tarrant County Chapter. Barbara would be the person to contact. Barbara Sanders Director of Chapter Development for the North Texas Exes email: bsanders@unt.edu phone: 940.565.3162

NT EXES SENIOR SEND-OFF PARTIES 2005 AUGUST REGARDING ALL FIVE PARTIES RSVP TO: BARBARA SANDERS at bsanders@unt.edu or 940.565.3162 PLEASE RSVP BY DEADLINE. YOUR NAME MUST BE ON THE RSVP LIST IN ORDER TO ATTEND THE PARTY. THANK YOU! 1). Monday, August 1, 2005 - Tarrant County - Joe T. Garcia's (2201 North Commerce St. in Ft. Worth) from 6:30-8:30 PM RSVP DEADLINE For Joe T.'s Event is Tuesday, July 26 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2). Thursday, August 4, 2005 - Austin Area - County Line BBQ (On the Lake - FM 2222 – just before 360 in Austin) from 7:00- 9:00 PM RSVP DEADLINE For County Line Event is Monday, August 1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3). Saturday, August 6, 2005 - Dallas County - Pappasito’s (10433 Lombardy Lane in Dallas) from 2 - 4 PM RSVP DEADLINE For Pappasito's Event is Wednesday, August 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4). Tuesday, August 9 - Denton County - Razzoo’s (1990 South Stemmons Frwy in Lewisville) from 6:30 – 8:30 p.m. RSVP DEADLINE For Razzoo's Event is Friday, August 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5). Thursday, August 11 - Gulf Coast Area - Spaghetti Warehouse (901 Commerce Street in Downtown Houston) from 6:30 –8:30 p.m. RSVP DEADLINE For Spagetti Warehouse Event is Monday, August 8 THANK YOU FROM THE NT EXES ASSOCIATION!!!

Good thread Gray. My take - Hull was moved to Tight end in the spring and I imagine he will stay there although when you take into account the arrival of Chaney, Brown and Gilmore there are a lot of numbers at the tight end position. Someone is going to be asked to move to tight end. The only sure bet is probably Chapman on the strong side. He's not a difference maker but he looks like a solid player. Hutcheson is a really interesting player. When I watch film of him from last year, he has his moments and shows bursts of speed that you love to have out of a rush end. the problem is he plays out of control, often overrunning the play and he gets dominated at times against the run. At the weakside position they don't need a runstopper but they do need a speed pass rusher. Hutcheson hasn't proven to be a consistent threat to sack the passer and make offside plays. That is why Ransom was such a big sign - they think he can feel that role. They have high hopes for Burriss who has the size. He has shown some flashes in limited minutes. I think he's still weak against the run. Durodoye and Rexrode - for now - appear to be backups at best. Durodoye is undersized and Rexrode is trying to convert to DEnd from a high school quarterback and runningback. Walk-on Chad Cooley is a very interesting player that could surprise. He's undersized but athletic and plays very smart.. While not a dominating end like an Awasom, Cooley is sound in his technique and typically not going to hurt you. He's coming off some off season surgery but should be ready by two a days. David Collins is a very athletic kid that should be redshirted unless he comes on very strong in two a days. Another player that may figure in is former linebacker Lawrence Brown from Houston. Brown is 6-3 210 dripping wet but very fast and will push to get some time at the weakside spot. The biggest key to this group is Ransom. If he is as advertised, he could give us a weakside end that teams have to account for. We haven't had that since Darrell Daniels. Until Ransom proves himself I see this as an area of concern. They really need a big, strong run stopper and Chapman may not quite be there yet. It wouldn't surprise me to see them bring in a late juco walk-on strong side defensive end that can stop the run just for insurance. My penciled in starters would be Chapman on the strong side and Ransom as the rush end. Burris and Hutcheson would be in the rotation.

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Very well stated SUMG - We have to build our MGC numbers. It's time to raise the bar. The thing about it - it's a good deal. You get parking and access to the deck (cold beer) and other perks. I realize that not everyone is in a position to give but I encourage those that can to give it a try. You don't have to break the bank and it really makes a difference. They have several payment options and you can spread it out over a year and minimize the impact to your wallet.

Found this on the MUTS board...Good and accurate IMHO. http://www.bonesville.net/Articles/DennyOB...1205_OBrien.htm Now would be the appropriate time for N.C. State coach Chuck Amato to remind us of the unfair recruiting advantage East Carolina holds over the state's other Division I-A schools. With the recent announcement that former Georgia signee Jamar Bryant would enroll at ECU, the timing couldn't be better. As such, Amato might consider himself justified for unleashing a 'told you so' in reference to past statements about his opposition to future showdowns with the Pirates in football. Who could blame him? After the painful display that took place when the Pack and Pirates renewed their rivalry in Charlotte last November, the talent gap between the two couldn't be more clear. But rest assured that East Carolina wasn't the one boasting the improved horsepower when the two last met. So perhaps Amato wasn't too far off the mark with his comments about certain in-state schools enduring a decided disadvantage along the recruiting trail. Because since the unveiling of the Bowl Championship Series in the late 90's, ECU has seen the quality of its recruiting harvests decline considerably. In contrast, North Carolina, N.C. State, and even Wake Forest have celebrated the last several Signing Days with plentiful bounties. "Recruiting against (the BCS) has been very difficult," Pirates coach Skip Holtz said recently. "I think that this is a different age than it was 15 years ago when there was no BCS. "All of a sudden, you kind of have the haves and the have-nots. You have the teams that have the chance to compete for the BCS and those who don't. And I think that gap has been getting wider between the two of them. So, legitimate obstacle? Yes, an obstacle that East Carolina didn't have to fight 15 years ago in the early 90's when they built this program into what it was." Back then, recruits made their college selections based primarily on the coaches who pursued them and the schools that were represented during the process. While conference affiliation may have factored somewhat into those decisions, its presence on the radar wasn't nearly as visible as it is today. With the BCS, league association has become one of the primary factors. In fact, a recent report in USA Today suggests that a recruit nowadays is more likely to pledge his allegiance to a bottom feeder from a BCS conference than a more traditionally successful program from a league that is not guaranteed yearly access to one of the cartel's bowls. Such is the current climate in which Holtz and many of his peers are now victims of a stacked deck when it comes to drawing cards from the deck of talent. It has led to a scenario that forces them to sometimes take gambles on gifted players who have been passed over by BCS schools because of academic question marks. Examples like Bryant, a jack-of-all-trades from the fertile soil of Richmond County who actually may be deemed eligible this fall, are growing by the day. They are growing because programs like ECU have been left with little choice but to occasionally roll the dice on players who some would consider to be academic risks. Otherwise they are left to fish from a talent pool that has been depleted of solid blue chippers. Naturally there are those who would argue that academic partial and non-qualifiers are deeply rooted in the culture of East Carolina football. To a certain degree that mindset has some merit, though not nearly to the extent that some insist. Throughout ECU's gridiron history, coaches have made the occasional exception by extending scholarship offers to players who may not have met the academic requirements of rival programs that also were recruiting them. However, you would be hard-pressed to find a single time when the Pirates' roster was stacked with more than a handful of student-athletes who did not meet the admissions standards at most Division I schools. It just so happens that most of the players in question had celebrated high school careers that garnered recruiting attention throughout the Southeast. And it also should be noted that the majority of them were model citizens who went the extra mile once they entered school. Moving forward, the recruiting challenges will become far greater for ECU. Not only must Holtz face the barricade created by the BCS, but also the new standards the NCAA recently introduced with the Academic Progress Rate. The latter may force him to be even more reluctant to accept non-qualifiers than he already is. In cases where a recruit has impeccable character and there is confidence in his willingness and ability to handle the academic workload, Athletics Director Terry Holland should give Holtz the green light. Otherwise it might be prudent to apply the brakes, regardless of how talented the player might be. The margin for error at East Carolina has always been more narrow than at other in-state schools. The increasing challenges it faces on the recruiting trail provides even less wiggle room. Yep, it sure looks like ECU has a recruiting chokehold over the rest of North Carolina.

http://www.dandydon.com/ LSU will open the 2005 season at home against a pretty good North Texas team that went 7-5 last season with all seven wins against Sun Belt Conference teams. North Texas is coached by Darrell Dickey who has posted a 37­26 record in seven years as head coach for the Mean Green. North Texas returns six starters on offense including Jamario Thomas who rushed for 1802 yards and 18 touchdowns in 10 games. Also returning in the backfield will be Patrick Cobb who led the nation in rushing two years ago but took a redshirt year in 2004 because of an injury. North Texas' biggest challenge on offense will be to find a replacement for quarterback Scott Hall who was a four-year starter. The leading candidate to replace Hall is sophomore Joey Byerly (6’4”, 250) who has good speed for a player his size. Byerly has two excellent receivers in Joe Quinn and Joel Nwigwe. The offensive line for the Mean Green only returns two starters in Jason Mays and Dylan Lineberry. North Texas only returns four starters on defense but they do have two outstanding returning starters in linebacker Brandon Moore and defensive back T.J. Covington who is an outstanding pro prospect. I think it will be a long night in Tiger stadium for the Mean Green who will have a long ride back to Denton Texas. Coach Miles will get his first win as the head coach at LSU and will be able to play a lots of players. Dandy Don's pick is LSU 44­North Texas 7. In my Tuesday morning update I will write about Arizona State.

Gray, I agree that Patrick deserves his due but we have to be realistic - he didn't play most of last year and he isn't as fresh on people's minds as Jamario is. Jamario is the "Golden Goose" for this program. In fact, I don't think any player in our history has commanded such noteriety. And it's not that there haven't been great players in our past. The advent of ESPN, the internet and other media outlets help his cause. The other thing is that he accomplished so much as a true freshman which is very rare.

Quick Wendell plug - this guy lives in my neighborhood and his kids go to my kids elementary school. He is a CLASS ACT, gives a lot of his time to the school in the dad's club and helped us to raise about 50K for the school in a silent auction last May. Anyhow, tough deal for TCU and Fort Worth. When TCU did not get bowl eligible last year it really hurt that bowl.

1). You're right - the bigger schools are getting their commitments earlier. UNT could do more of this but here's the problem, if you sign a good player early you run the risk of identifying him as a talented player to the bigger schools in bigger conferences. The better players typically get "slow-played" by the bigger programs meaning that they are teased with potential scholarship offers until later on in the game. Do you sign a lesser player who is willing to commit early or wait to be there with a scholarship when the stud gets left at the dance by a bigger program? What can often happen is a chain reaction - for example UT loses a recruit who decides to go to OU, now UT starts looking for a guy that has committed to say Missouri or O-State. Then O-State starts looking at who UNT is after or has committed. They respect our talent evaluation and it makes their job easier - they don't have to do any homework. OL Andrew Lewis is an example of this. We identified him early on as a player with huge upside. OSU sniffed around and found out that we were recruiting him and got involved and ultimately landed him when they lost some players late. I suspect that UNT will continue it's policy of "under the radar" until signing day for now. I do believe that UNT will need to address their recruiting policy as the internet is becoming such a staple in the minds of kids. Early commitments can also provide a snowball effect if the kid will stay true - so there is an upside. It does appear that UNT is getting a lot more activity and mention with recruits than in years past which is a good sign. 2). Right now it's too early to tell how this class will shape up. The level of interest is at an all time high - that's a good sign. I think the facility improvements are helping immensely. Being in 4 straight nationally televised bowls has done a lot to improve our reputation. Kids want to go to North Texas. I also think that the "Jamario" factor is huge. To have a player of his caliber, and to have him for potentially 2-3 more years in the program is a huge lightning rod for the program. I do think that the date of the bowl game has been detrimental to our recruiting in the past although it could not outweight the positive effects of playing in a bowl game and the extra practices. 3). Coach Atterbury is doing a fantastic job in Oklahoma. He is well connected, but more than that he is a good person that is well respected by the high school coaches. OU, OSU and even Tulsa have turned their back on some very fine players in OKlahoma to sign players from DFW. I suspect that we will continue to get some good talent from there.

Let's take a quick look at UTEP's schedule: 09/03 at New Mexico St 8:00 PM - Big win as NMSU is changing systems 09/16 Houston TBD - tough game - but they have them at home. Kolb is a good QB and Houston has athletes. I'll go with UofH. 09/24 New Mexico TBD - this will be a tough game, New Mexico is pretty stout this year. I'll lean towards UNM although UTEP gets them at home. 10/01 at Memphis TBD - welcome to CUSA UTEP. Memphis should win this big 10/14 at Tulane TBD - Tulane can be tough at home but this is a winnable game. 10/22 Marshall TBD - seems like Marshall is down this year after losing Pruett 10/29 at Rice TBD - UTEP will beat poor Rice 11/05 Tulsa TBD - UTEP should win this game although Tulsa has some talent 11/12 Tex South TBD ? Texas Southern? Wow talk about dumbing down the schedule. 11/19 UAB TBD - UAB has Hackney and will be VERY tough this year. 11/26 at SMU 3:00 PM - should beat SMU. record: 7-4. Interesting because based on my projections the Texas Southern game gets them a winning record. But look at this - there are NO BCS programs on this schedule. We have 2. Every game on their schedule is winnable with the possible exception of Memphis. They are playing tougher conference competition although getting Rice, SMU and Tulane make it more managable. It is very clear however that their attendance is allowing them to schedule for success. Their non-conference games include a rebuilding NMSU, D II Texas Southern, and Mountain West rival New Mexico all three winnable games. We get LSU, K-State, La Tech and Tulsa. Even the most ardent of Mean Green fans would say we are lucky to go 2-2 in those games. UTEP opens with NMSU which will give them confidence. We open with LSU which will, we'll um..g'day.

He saw a billboard driving through Vicksburg that was a Southern Miss Ad. it said in big bold letters, "ANYBODY, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE!" or something to that effect. He said it was very impresssive. That is where we need to get to.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/12064789.htm Posted on Wed, Jul. 06, 2005 R E L A T E D C O N T E N T NORTH TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY YEARBOOK Bob Ray Sanders' colleagues on the 1969 Yucca, the North Texas State University yearbook, conspired to keep him from seeing this photo until publication: It's his starring role on campus in Eugene O'Neill's The Emperor Jones. Honoring the true trailblazers By Bob Ray Sanders Star-Telegram Staff Writer As an editor for my college yearbook at North Texas State University, I should have seen all the pages before the '69 Yucca went to press. But my journalism colleagues had deliberately kept one page from me, though not out of disrespect or as an act of youthful mischief. They simply wanted to surprise me. The yearbook staff had composed a two-page spread covering, through words and photos, a few "firsts" and some milestones at the university during the academic year. Those events included an outdoor rock concert that Denton police shut down for being too noisy, NTSU's first Negro History Week and a split in the Young Democrats that forced cancellation of a musical to bring students together to raise bond money for those arrested on marijuana charges. The photographs on the page included one of "Mean" Joe Greene standing in a crowd of fans and one of me standing in a spotlight on a stage. Greene, the school's first All-American, had his number, 75, retired that year, and I, as a favor for a classmate who was a speech-and-drama major, had accepted the lead role in a student-directed production of Eugene O'Neill's The Emperor Jones. At the ceremony to retire Greene's number, the university's new president, John Kamerick, said of the football star, "You've done more for North Texas than North Texas has done for you." He was right. As for the theater production, it probably would have gone unnoticed except that it came a few months after the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Bobby Kennedy, and the pre-publicity, featuring a photo of a fierce black Emperor Jones arguing with the mean white Smithers, caused a stir on campus. Even though the play was staged in the drama department's small Studio Theater, the fact that a black student for the first time had a starring role, opposite one of the department's most respected actors, Bruce Saperston, meant that a record number of African-American students showed up. It was standing room only. Keep in mind, this was just a few years after integration, and black students, whether they knew one another or not, felt a need to support one another. All of us were still breaking ground, and yet we didn't feel we were anything special despite someone pointing out a "first" or "only" every now and then. Those of us on campus in the mid- to late-1960s understood that the true "trailblazers" had come before us, albeit just a few years before. They broke the color barrier at what is now the University of North Texas. With all of his accomplishments and accolades, "Mean Joe" still appreciates Abner Haynes and Leon King, who in fall 1956 became the first black football players at UNT, although neither could stay on campus that year. Haynes, of course, would become a leading rusher with the Kansas City Chiefs and earn a spot in the Chiefs' Hall of Fame. Earlier that winter, Irma E.L. Sephas of Fort Worth had become the school's first black undergraduate. The year before -- the same year Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on an Alabama bus and two years before the showdown at Little Rock's Central High School -- Joe L. Atkins of Dallas had sued the school because it refused admission to black students. Although he won, Atkins had enrolled at Texas Western College in El Paso before the decision was handed down. As word got around in the late 1950s that the university had quietly integrated, more and more black students enrolled. By the time Thomas King and Dennis Dunkins got there in 1959, a little more than 250 black undergraduates were on campus. King, a computer specialist who retired last year from the U.S. Department of Commerce, co-founded the UNT Trailblazers, originally made up of those early black students but now open to all graduates. Dunkins, an administrator with the Fort Worth school district, was a charter member. The Trailblazers will hold their annual convention in Fort Worth this week at the Radisson Plaza Hotel. Many of them are still blazing trails, and the focus of this year's reunion will be on how these ex-students can continue to be involved and give back to the institution that gave so much to them, even under sometimes trying circumstances. Registration for the event begins at noon Thursday, with an opening reception from 6 to 8 p.m. at the hotel. The reunion will wrap up with a religious service from 9 to 10 a.m. Sunday. Coincidentally, my I.M. Terrell Class of '65 will also hold its reunion this weekend. As you do the math, you can understand that I'm feeling pretty old right now. Proud, but old. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Ray Sanders' column appears Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays. (817) 390-7775 bobray@star-telegram.com

ANSWERS IN CAPS 1. Any word on the # of players that are on campus doing "voluntary" workouts? Who might they be, etc. NOT SURE OF THE EXACT NUMBER OR PERCENTAGE BUT REPORTS ARE THAT IT IS A GOOD SIZED GROUP. 2. Any update/photos on the turfin' at Fouts ? STILL ON SCHEDULE ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T SEEN A RECENT PICTURE. 3. Are the practice fields by the new AC been completed? THOSE WERE COMPLETED AND COULD HAVE BEEN USED IN THE SPRING BUT THEY DELAYED IT SO IT WOULD GIVE THE TURF MORE CHANCE TO DEVELOP. IT WILL BE READY FOR TWO A DAYS AND IT SHOULD BE A LOT MORE FUN TO WATCH THEM THERE! 4. When do players "officially" report for fall practice? I AM HEARING AUGUST 8TH BUT THAT CAN BE A FLUID NUMBER. I DO KNOW THAT THE MEDIA DAYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE NEW ATHLETIC FACILITY WHICH SHOULD BE COOL. ONE CHALLENGE WILL BE IF IT RAINS. THE PRACTICE FIELDS SHOULD DRAIN OK BUT THEY WILL NEED TO HOLD UP WELL BECAUSE FOUTS WILL LIKELY NOT BE AN OPTION UNTIL TULSA AND DENTON ISD WILL BE GOING THROUGH TWO-A-DAYS AS WELL. ONCE FOUTS IS OPERATIONAL THEY SHOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE IF THERE IS A LOT OF RAIN BECAUSE THAT FIELD WILL DRAIN NICELY. THERE USED TO BE A BOW SHAPE AT FOUTS TO HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE. THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY REMOVED WHICH SHOULD HELP THE SIGHTLINES, ESPECIALLY DOWN LOW.

Wouldn't mind having "Tree" line up out at WR either. He's 6'6" and a wingspan as wide as the track at Fouts!

People are quick to forget that this was supposed to be #12's year to shine. I'm sorry but that is tough to overcome. It's still hasn't been a year yet that he left us.

Igloo's!!! Yes that was it!

Here's one that will bring back memories for the old timers - do you guys recall that frozen drink spot there over by the cemetary off of eagle and ft worth drive. That was in the days before DWI was a big deal and you could get a huge alchohol laced frozen drink in the drive through! It was over by the tire place I believe and I forget the name of it.

Is it just me or does it seem like there are not enough restaurants and bars over by the Fouts side of the world? It is like everyone goes over there to see a game or an event and leaves the area after if they want to grab a beer or get something to eat. That whole section of the city over there could use some more name restaurants and shops. The square is too far away. UNT could do a better job of partnering up! But I digress - back to topic, a New York Subs foot long boiled ham w/cheese on white bread and an ice cold Dr. pepper with crushed ice - after a long day in the sun watching football practice- is pure greatness.

Cullen Mills is the QB from Harker Heights that quit the team. My understanding is that he has asked to rejoin and no decision has been made yet. Jon Ieans is a tall sophomore QB/WR from Houston Madison.

true freshmen: ATH Desmon Chatman - not sure where he'll end up but he's 6-2 and can really run. Supposedly an amazing athlete. QB/DB/ATH Korey Washington - Korey is just too talented not to help somewhere. He dominated 5A ball. C/DT Bryan Glass - a short but strong 4-year starter for Paris that will battle for a spot. He's a winner. He also has a Oline depth situation that helps him to break into the OLine early. WR/DB/ATH Dominique Green - probably the highest rated player UNT signed. Explosive athlete that could play defensive back, wr and help on special teams. OT - Ajani Banks - He's 6-3, 320, need I say more? OLine Depth will help him. TE Eddrick Gilmore - at 6-5, 250 he has the size to help us somewhere. Known as a devestating blocker but would also be a stout defensive end. The fact that Davidson (shoulder surgery) and Chaney (knee surgery) have battled injuries plays in his favor. TE - Charley Brown - Brown is just a player. The questions are his weight and the level of competition he played against. He could get caught up in a numbers game. I've just heard that this kid is very driven to succeed so it's hard for me to leave him off of the list. OL - Jack Crumes - OK Crumes could be a longshot to make an impact but the lack of OLine depth helps his chances. The guy has only played football for like two years and he has a huge upside. redshirt freshman: OL Micah West - I like this kid. He's a former defensive linemen and has quick feet. He's 6-3, 280 and has the desire. The oline depth could help him make an impact. QB Danny Meager - regardless of Byerly's status, you have to think that Meager will figure in somehow. His health is the biggest concern. There is no doubt that he has talent. DT Ike Thomas - Coaches are reserved but he looked big and fast in the Spring. WR Brock Stickler - Brock is a major talent, with his added size look for him to fill Blount's loss. He could get caught up in a numbers game because the wide receiver position is so deep. C - Chad Rose - Rose has a strong spring. Good size, smart kid. Big shoes to fill but he's capable. LB - Colt Mahan - Colt showed some good things in the Spring. He's undersized but working out hard and getting stronger. They need a solid outside linebacker backup and if Shawn Early isn't fully recovered it could open up a window for Colt. Colt's speed is a weapon but he has lots of numbers to overcome at what is now a deep position. transfers: LB Travis Thompson - Travis is essentially a transfer since he lost last year due to injury. A bonafide badass that I can't wait to watch. DE Willie Ransom - Ransom is a wildman and plays with reckless abandon. Should provide an immediate impact. Safety Aaron Weathers - Weathers is expected to battle for a starting safety spot. Very athletic and a proven commodity at a high level of competition. DB Gary Oubre - Oubre is small but tough and quick. I expect him to make an impact on special teams and in a backup role in the secondary. LB Ryan Davenport - Davenport is a transfer as well as a redshirt freshman since he was on the Air Force Prep squad. Very intriguing player that looked good in the spring. May get caught up in numbers at linebacker but could impact on special teams.

If UNT was to beat La. Tech and Tulsa, then win the Sun Belt and go to the bowl (even if they lost a Sun Belt game in the process) would you be satified with that? I think I would, especially given the youth of this team and the lack of an experienced QB. To me the La. Tech and Tulsa games are huge - for recruiting and respect.

Texas Pickup had the best Chicken Tenders I have ever eaten!

The UNT specific talk starts on page three of the thread. Interesting that the La. Tech fans are realizing that UNT is starting to get some good football players. Can't wait for this game. http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showthread....67&page=1&pp=20