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good, then McNulty doesn't have to throw the deep ball as far.

In fairness, the thread has nothing to do with playing Baylor. The question is whether or not we will bring more fans to SMU than Baylor.

You got all that from still photos?

another year won't change an FCS (at best) arm. When there is no threat to throw the ball vertically, you end up with 8 in the box every play, which kills the ground game. Unless he grew a new right arm, this is going to be another disappointing year.

Good grief. If your an alum, find your way to the game on your own. I'm perplexed why anyone would expect UNT to bus graduates.

http://www.examiner.com/article/suddenly-denton-texas-is-a-craft-beer-hot-spot Harry, feel free to move where appropriate. I was going to put it in the Denton-centric Forum but... it's seems to be a wasteland of single-poster crime blotters. Anyway, we're continually getting cooler up here. #keepdentonbeer'd

Yes and it was also his fault that the UAB offense scored at will. Kid was a FR and we should have let him make freshman mistakes in a garbage season anyway. Stop recruiting kids that you aren't willing to let make mistakes. Mac is the Benford of QB selection for Christ's sake. Make a mistake, you are done! LINE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't discount the fact that what Mac says to Vito may be a motivational tool for Smith. Thats the only hope I have left to hang onto, anyway.

QB's with weaker arms are successful at the FBS level only if they have a lightening quick release to go along with lightning quick decision making abilities. Basically, what matters is the time it takes from the very moment that the QB realizes a receiver is open to the time the ball arrives. Strong arms can make up for a lack of decision making and lack of a quick release. And a quick release and quick decision making can make up for a weaker arm (except on deep outs). Ive seen nothing to indicate that McNulty or Greer possess any of these abilities. Hope I'm wrong.

What game set UNT's attendance record? Yes, when an absolutely awful Baylor team came to Fouts, and their alumni filled up that junky stadium. And #2 in our history was another time when Baylor came to Fouts. It's not out of the realm of possibility that we could bring more fans to SMU than Baylor does, but I think we'd better wait until afterwards to think about bragging about that one.

There are a lot of engaged Baylor alums and families in the D/FW area. They don't have to "travel" well when they play here.

Smith is pretty surprising to me. He must really be struggling picking up that playbook. As for Means, I've seen very little of him but what I do know of him screams accuracy issues. Less than 50% completion percentage in high school for an FBS commit QB, 6-15 in his second spring game, and even the videos. https://twitter.com/meangreenfb/status/634013464143368193 I (and we) need more to accurately judge him, but I just haven't seen many good signs. Maybe the cameras haven't done a good job of showing his good moments.

Prediction The ex UNT player who makes the biggest statement will be.Erick Evans.

Funny the number of opinions considering nobody has seen the practices this Fall.

That's only an advantage if your QB is a threat to throw more than a screen

Looking to ride the train from Collin County to the SMU game? Anyone and everyone are welcome to meet at Vickery Park in historic downtown Plano. Vickery Park is located at 1101 E. 15th Street in Plano, right around the corner from the downtown Plano DART train station. (Coming from US 75 Central Expressway, just take the 15th Street exit in Plano and head east to downtown Plano.) Let's meet at Vickery Park around 2pm for pre-tailgate food and drinks. We can then march around the corner to the train station and catch the 2:31 train, which will have us to Mockingbird Station at 2:57pm. Local train tickets are $5 and cover you for the day. The North Texas Mean Green Tailgate starts at 3pm (tickets are $20 in advance through the North Texas Ticket office or $30 at the gate). Feel free to hang out at Vickery Park later if you don't plan to tailgate prior to the game. To make it there by game time, you probably want to catch the 5:11pm train at the latest, which gets you to Mockingbird Station at 5:37pm, giving you about 20 minutes to get to your seats at Ford Field. There is gameday shuttle bus service from Mockingbird Station starting at 6am that concludes 1 hour post game. Post here if you think you might join us. RSVP not necessary to attend.

UNT fans seem to travel well. I have been to 2 games at Rice where we outnumbered the Owls and got pounded. The product on the field matters more than the turnout in the stands. Sorry for misreading the original post.

If you are talking about his ability to regularly make 40-50+ yard throws "on a rope" then you may be right about him. I'm more concerned with his ability to make mid-range throws with "timely-to-fast" releases. I wouldn't characterize Mitch Maher as a cannon armed QB, but he rarely missed his mid-range throws, and when he had to, he could count on his TE, the great Luis Silva to bring down a "hail mary" throw from time to time. All McNulty needs is for any of his taller WR's to develop into a Darnell Smith/Luis Silva go-after-and-fight-for-the-ball-type receiver, and the long throws will be there. To further make my point. After watching "Johnny Football" and T. Boykin play a couple of times, I wasn't all that impressed with them. Many times on their long pass plays (especially Boykin) they just threw it up in the vicinity of their very talented WR's and let them go after it. And the same could be said for a lot of their mid-range throws (especially J. Football). Their WR's made them look REAL good.

While I was one of those lamenting this the loudest, I have to say, this was not the solution I had in mind

Defense and special teams can give you a big boost. That is one thing I took away from attending 11 of the 13 games in the 2013 season. Also a good o line can really help a QB look greatly improved. My biggest problem with Mini Mac is his height and he isn't going to get any taller!

A winning season under Benford would certainly be unprecedented.

The very latest train to make it back to Denton will leave Mockingbird Station at 10:07PM (Red train). Hop off at Pearl/Arts at 10:15, wait for Green train that arrives at 10:20. Green train arrives at Trinity Mills at 11:04PM, last DCTA train leaves at 11:07P, arrives Denton at 11:38

UNT > > Baylor > UTSA

I was just saying in my personal experience with the handful of BU grads that I have worked with, it has not been a pleasant experience I freely admit is a small sample size of under a dozen or so, but enough for me to consider it more than a coincidence. On a separate note, Baylor as a university publicly says one thing, and then does another. The football coach came to them and said they needed to admit a kid because he thought it would help them win. No problem coach. The parallel I was trying to draw is that my personal experience with BU grads was that of being hypocritical and sneaky/underhanded/fake kind of stuff, compared with how the university itself has shown a willingness to say one thing publicly and then behind the scenes act in a way that is counter to their supposed beliefs in an effort to succeed in athletics. No apologies here. I do not care for Baylor and normally pass on Baylor graduates for a job based on my prior experiences. Sucks for the candidate, but that is reality for me. I am laughing my ass off that they have once again found themselves in the middle of yet another mess. Stereotype much? Yes.

Just buy them...they cost hardly anything. I have several conflicts as well, but the cost is so low that I bought the WBB season ticket as well. You never know, my schedule may change and I might end up being able to make more than I now think. Could happen.

When you get down, season hasn't even started, without a game played, go back and watch the highlights of the 2013 season. We played some good football.

Many on here get distressed about McNulty being #1. My distress is the #2. I'm very disappointed that Means and/or Smith have not made a move. They have far more potential.

He had a chance. 3 chances, to be exact. He isn't an FBS QB (but, then again, no one on UNT's roster appears to be). Good Luck, Dajon. I hope you have finally found a home.

How about the fact that Baylor essentially forced the girl to transfer due to a "decline in performance" and reducing her scholarship? Oh, I guess the fact that she was raped and essentially told to 'get over it' had nothing to do with her "reduced" performance...

Dajon doesn't do practice.

Having a higher moral compass than Baylor athletics is truly one of the lowest bars you can have.

Come on y'all! If you're all growed up then you can figure out how to safely get to a game and back without taking a kids seat on a school bus. My friends and I will be getting a hotel down there, drinking too much, and making bad decisions without a vehicle to get me in trouble.

Too distracted... "Could I, Would I, Should I Break 'em? Uh..."

we all saw the third option at QB last year. He is starting this year. That, along with an impossible schedule, is the crux of the lack of excitement.

The QB depth chart is the main reason I'm more disinterested in this season than any other in my UNT fandom

Cool. Hopefully that means 1 CB to cover 2 WRs on each side.

This may've been posted already, but if you want a good lengthy read on Zach Orr from long-time Baltimore sports media staple Joe Platania...

It is just so telling of the university that that have allowed the transgressions within the Athletics department. The Athletics department is morally corrupt and the administration is right there with them for allowing to continue to happen. And to have the nerve to do it all while hiding behind a cross. This type of backstabbing/hypocritical behavior is a consistent experience that I have personally encounter when dealing with the handful of BU graduates I have dealt with in my personal and professional experience. Not surprised.

they always use to do that

Please tell me that the victim and/or her family has secured the services of a great attorney and is SUING THE HELL OUT OF BAYLOR.

Wow! I hadn't seen that pathetic sentencing. Convicted of raping a virgin freshman girl, and he gets a slap on the wrist. There is no way he should have received less than 10 years, and that would be on the light side.

You MAY be able to say Briles didn't know anything before he arrived at Baylor...but I don't think you can defend the fact that, after he was accused of rape, Baylor wanted to rreinstate him once they heard the DA might not have enough evidence for a conviction...only to have the DA state they were still moving forward Say all you want that "it was only an allegation at that point". As a man with two daughters, as a police lieutenant, and as a NT alum I would be LIVID if Mac took in a kid with reported anger issues towards women and then wanted him kept around after a rape allegation.

Your right its possible, but he did dismiss the kid. Also just my opinion but Peterson built the Boise program on doing things the right way. He made a point of bringing in kids with good character. To me and its just me, but I trust Peterson more than Briles.

I understand the let's change what it's working line of thinking but to do what Mac is doing is insane in this day and age. Mac probably went back to square tires on his truck bc he got a nail in it once.

Yep. If you care more about the UT-OU game than attending homecoming at UNT then, you really are a causal "if I have nothing better to do UNT fan". Which, in itself, is plenty OK. We need all "casual fans" we can get whenever they care to attend. No need trying to cover it up with some rationalization of who UNT is playing. It is homecoming and a win is usually nice to have on homecoming days. Seems lots of teams schedule what they think are winnable games for homecoming. But, what a hoot I it is trying to justify non-attendance based on the opponent and/or the fact that it is the same day as the UT-OU game. I don't care where one's loyalties lie, just be honest about it and stop trying to justify it one way or the other. Come don't come...personal decision. No need to fabricate some random justification. Great, the folks you bring will make up for the massive number we will lose because of the TU-OU game or the fact that we are playing Portland State. Thank you for helping to fill those slots.

You mean the one post you didn't even respond to at first because you showed up to the thread with an agenda and obviously didn't read any of it, then tried to work backwards to make sure you got what you wanted? How noble. On the plus side, you're probably closing in on a lesser known Mean Green Award: The 2014 Euless Knight Excellence in Social Media trophy.

well...they don't if you're white. that should get this shit locked.