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Worst hires? Remember BobTyler, Todd Dodge? These guys did wonderful things for North Texas didn't they? Jerry got much better with time? Duh! Very good observation there Grand Green! 24 years at Appalachian State, 215 wins 87 losses, 3 National titles, 10 Conference titles, and a run of 26 straight conference game wins! Coached 99 All Americans, 257 All Conference players! Jerry developed and coached countless NFL players too! Worked for Hayden Fry @ SMU, Tom Osborn @ Nebraska, Ken Hatfield @ Arkansas! Jerry has his principals, Christian, and does not put up with any BS. Jerry's former player and Dallas Cowboy LB Dexter Cloakley is in this 2014 CFHOF class with Jerry too. I certainly hope Coach Mac can have a great career here at North Texas just like Jerry had at Appalachian State! That way Grand Green will not say "one of the worst hires ever" about Coach Mac!

Congratulations to my cousin, Jerry Moore, for being named to the 2014 College Football Hall of Fame! Outstanding person, family man, and winning football coach! www.meangreensports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/052214aad.html

I can see our promotions approach now. The back cover of the game program will say "Please visit meangreensports.com for ticket information"

Is this a concrete date?

Ya.... No.

As a true freshman.

We know.... We know.

UNT coach's struggles prompt him to volunteer as speaker for American Heart Association, serve as honorary chair for Heart Walk: http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/colleges/north-texas-headlines/20140524-football-a-cause-dear-to-his-heart.ece

SMU's Cox School of Business ( namesake's son, Jr., took down two major Dallas banks and did jail time in the 70's for fraudulent commodities trading) lacked accredidation at one time, but it is now an icon in Dallas.

First of all, Congratulations Coach Moore, you deserve to be in the CFHOF. I graduated from NT in 75, so I was right in the middle of the Hayden Fry era. I wouldn't call Moore a "horrible" hire, but I agree with most of your assessment of what he did here. You're right, he took a bunch of players who were better suited to be in a pro style offense and tried to turn them into Nebraska. The ultimate result was a two year record of 11-11, vs the previous two years of 19-3 (damn!.. those were the days!). I still scratch my head over the demotion of Bernard Jackson, who's only sin was gaining 1400 yards the year before. He shared starting time with Malcolm Jones in 79 and still ended up the rushing leader @ 749 yrds. Before he tragically died in 1980 Jackson appeared to be gaining his starting position back. One of the best things that Moore did was start a real weight training program. It might be an exaggeration, but some sports reporter's description of Hayden Fry's weight room at NT during that era sounded more like a home gym, than a real D-1 weight room. Coach Moore went about getting my favorite QB, Jordan Case, into a weight lifting regiment to address his congenital back ailment rather than the pain injections that were used the year before by Fry's assistants. Anyway, Moore obviously did enough good stuff to get the attention of Texas Tech and they subsequently hired him away from us. The last time that that happened BTW. It was THEN that the most horrible hire in NT history (Bob Tyler) took place. It's my belief that Jerry Moore was the anti-Fry hire. Fry had a lot of people that loved him @ NT (and he still does) but he had a lot of people at NT that hated him. And those people (to the great detriment of our program) were the ones in charge of hiring the next coach. And it wasn't going to be anyone remotely like, or associated with, Hayden Fry. When Fry left, he recommended that Bill Brasher be hired as his replacement. Brasher didn't have any College HC experience, but neither did Jerry Moore. However, he had put together an excellent defense at NT and he knew the personnel that was coming back. When Hayden made his recommendation, the hiring bureaucrats at NT just sniffed and said "we'll consider his application along with all other candidates". Well, Bill Brashier (like Bob Dylan said in Subterranean Homesick Blues) didn't "need a weather man to know which way the wind blows", and decided to join Hayden at Iowa. The rest is our dysfunctional history.

I don't think it had anything to do with money or salary or what she was paid - it was more the "what's the point of paying anyone associated with this thing I care very little about it in my big picture more than $XXXXXXX." So, when someone comes to her and wants to make a passionate speech or show reasoning for supporting it, it doesn't matter how well he does setting up his argument, it's just not going to happen. That doesn't mean RV is great or a failure - it just seems like an obvious reality. You can point to a ton of failures when you go down the list for a lot of leadership positions at old NT (and I have the same loss of passion for many of the same things you do), but your logic here to single out RV for failing to sway her just feels extra vindictive. We can easily agree to disagree on here, but just wanted to state my case. Please don't swerve when you type back - it's a no refusal weekend and I'd hate for you to get in a sticky situation.

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Agreed 100%. Donovan for years was able to get by in spite of questionable commitment and work-ethic (something I don't begrudge him...the man chose to prioritize his personal life over his professional one. Athlete seems to be the only profession where many show anger towards those who make such a decision...probably while half-assing it through their office job and thinking more of their weekend plans or next family vacation) because he was a superior talent...a class above nearly everyone else in the USMNT. Now that he's lost a step and moved to the fringes it's cost him his place. If you look at the fringe guys who Klinnsman opted to take...kids like Green, Johannson, Diskerud, Yedlin and Brooks...and industrious, hard-workers like Wondolowski, Davis and Beckerman...guys who may lack the class of a Donovan but make up for it with their willingness to put in a shift and work for their teammates. The message from Klinnsman is clear: it's not your talent that will get you places, but your work ethic. My take on the 23: Goalkeepers Tim Howard Brad Guzan Nick Rimando - this was never really in doubt...Howard is the clear number one and will need to be at his loud, commanding best to organize a young back-line. Brad Guzan is one of the better #2s in the tournament...this is not a huge drop-off at all and very few countries (Spain, Belgium...maybe Italy) can feel as confident should their #1 get hurt. Hopefully Rimando never touches his gloves. Fullbacks Timothy Chandler Fabian Johnson DaMarcus Beasley DeAndre Yedlin (Geoff Cameron) - I think this probably came together about as well as one could've hoped. Chandler's commitment and fitness were a big question mark for me, but after a strong finish to the Bundesliga season I'm quite relieved to see him and I hope he mans the right, though he's capable on the left as well. Johnson also had a strong year in Germany and I imagine (hope) will be first choice on the left, despite his playing RB for club. Beasley brings some leadership and has shown one hell of a work ethic at learning a new position...that said, he's still a midfielder masquerading as a defender and I hope his action is minimal. I include a mention of Cameron here b/c he had a fantastic season at right back for Stoke and I imagine he'd be preferred to Yedlin, whom I believe is on the plane (like a few others) for his development more than his contributions, should injuries/suspensions crop up in wide defense. Central Defenders Matt Besler Omar Gonzalez Geoff Cameron John Brooks - Besler has proved calm and confident beyond his years...a solid passer, physical enough both on the ground and in the air, positionally aware...he's exceptional at nothing but refined as a central defender. Gonzalez, on the other hand, has all the tools to be the anchor of the defense, but his mental lapses I feel have cost him a starter's role. Cameron is probably the best defender in the squad, but his lack of game time at CB may cost him should JK prefer Gonzalez and having Cameron as a versatile sub. Brooks, like YedlinI imagine is here to learn, though he had won a starters spot for his Bundesliga club by end of the season. Holding Midfielders Michael Bradley Jermain Jones Kyle Beckerman (Geoff Cameron) - for me, Bradley is the most important piece in the squad, regardless of what shape Klinnsman opts to play. When he is out, both the potency in attack and organization and spine in defense suffer. If JK goes with the familiar 4-2-3-1, Bradley and (likely) Jones have formed a solid partnership and understanding in front of the back four...one goes forward, one stays back...though Jones's propensity for silly challenges and bookings does worry me, he can be dynamic in tandem with Bradley. Should Klinnsman decide to play a 4-4-2 with a diamond midfield similar to the recent Mexico match, Bradley has shown he can thrive with more forward freedom...this formation would also likely include Beckerman at the base of the diamond...a good passer from the back and a strong work-ethic, I have doubts over his athleticism on a world stage. And again, Cameron...he can play here too. Attacking Midfielders Graham Zusi Alejandro Bedoya Mixx Diskerud Brad Davis Julian Green (Fabian Johnson) - I'm tipping Bedoya for a bit of a break-out World Cup. He enjoyed a fantastic season at Ligue 1 side Nantes, helping the newly promoted side to an 8th place finish with 5 goals. I think he brings a bit more dynamic ability than Zusi on the right, though I think both will see significant time. Bedoya can also play centrally, though I'd be surprised to see him there much, if at all. Diskerud is another player I'm a big fan of...he plays as a classic Euro #10...a touch more inventiveness and creativity than the rest of his teammates, though the world game may still be a bit too fast for him to make a significant impact. Hopes are high for Green...doubt we see him much this World Cup, but it's a real coup for JK to have him in the USMNT system now. I mention Johnson as he can play as a left sided attacker, though if that were in Klinnsman's plans I suspect he'd have taken Michael Parkhurst to lend support to the defense rather than Brad Davis, an exclusively left-sided attacker. Forwards Jozy Altidoe Aron Johannsson Clint Dempsey Chris Wondolowski - this is still Jozy's line to lead. yes, he just suffered through a miserable season at Sunderland. but Sunderland were terrible for about 5/6 of the season and Jozy certainly should've chosen better in making his move. Dempsey, who has re-discovered his form up in Seattle (such a smart move...get that Spurs stink off him) will in someway play off Jozy, either as a second striker or in the hole behind Jozy. Johannsson had a very impressive season at AZ Alkmaar (Jozy's old club) and is a big part of the future of the USMNT...his playing time at this World Cup is almost 100% determined by Jozy's form. Good for Wondo...he'll work his ass off, has quality movement and is a great guy to have in the room...can't rule out his bagging a big late goal off the bench. I like the squad. And I like our chances of getting out of group and should that happen the first knockout game may come against the 4th toughest opponent the squad would have faced. An organized and confident back-line, a bright Michael Bradley and someone...be it Bedoya, Johannsson or hell, maybe even Green...providing Jozy and Dempsey some offensive support, and this team can surprise quite a few.

You had me at "boy howdy."

GMG

FIFY

Surprised no one has posted, "should be the first sellout crowd at Apogee Stadium".

Can those same death squads make the US away kits disappear too?

i really thought this was going to be a civil discussion on the United States Mutant Ninja Turtles... imagine my disappointment

He was one of the worst hires ever at NT and I will tell you why. First, he was a coach with no head coaching experience coming in after Fry. He was a horrible hire not because he was a terrible coach, but he was the wrong hire for NT at the time. NT in all their wisdom hired Moore who wanted to turn NT into Nebraska when he was left with a team that had got double digit wins the year before based on speed and deception with almost all the players returning. Moore tried to make this team into a three yard and a cloud of dust outfit ignoring the team's ability he had inherited. He turned a 10-1 team into mediocrity in one year. Here is what I remember about Moore. He had three or four returning starters in the defensive backfield from a team that was in the top three in interceptions the year before and not one of those players started for Moore. He also demoted Bernard Jackson, one of the leading rusher in the nation under Fry to a backup. He recruited the biggest bunch of linemen I can remember at NT his first year, five guys 6'5 and over all weighting over 300 lbs. Giants for that time, problem only one ever played and than only as a backup. In essence he rebuild a club that didn't need it. Notice, I say he was a bad hire for NT at the time, I never say he wasn't an excellent coach at Appalachian State. So take a suggestion from this "know it all big mouth wanting to justify myself as a judge of people", try to look pass your obvious bias and look at his performance at NT. If you can find a handful of NT fans that were around in those days that think Jerry Moore was a good hire I would be very surprised. If you are so intent on defending Moore's days at NT, I suggest you do so based on his performance at NT and not name calling or a rehash of his tenure at Appalachian State. About your last statement, that is just pure foolishness.

Yet another kid who plans on waiting out the process. Since our 2014 class now has 25 signees with the two recent JUCO additions (Dash and Denucci) we can't backcount any signees so we can only sign 25 in 2015. That includes our 3 grayshirts (Chumley, Jackson, and Graham), our FBS transfers, assuming they are coming in on scholarship (R Jackson, V Jackson, Sam Rice, and possibly Blake Bean), not to mention possibly a few walkons being put on scholarship counting towards this class (I believe Erick Evans and maybe more in the fall). We're looking at about 7 or more scholarships for this class being filled up, not including actual commits like Rodney Bendy and hopefully more to come soon. Going into the season with double digit commits coupled with the afore mentioned players would leave not that many spots left. Let's say we have 12 commits and 8 grayshirts/transfers/walkons put on scholarship. That's 20 of the spots taken up right there. We got about 5 commits during the season last year, and that'd be 25 right there. Not saying that's how it's going to happen. Just interesting to think about with looking at what will be a smaller class again. Should be really interesting to see how this class shapes up if we have a big summer.

Dajon's performance against Idaho kicks the crap out of everything McNulty has done in his opportunities. Bottom line, regardless of the competition, Dajon took advantage of his one opportunity on the field and McNulty has shown nothing really his whole career with his arm, which is woefully lacking in strength for a FBS QB. Has Dajon's lack of work ethic led to his injury problem and demotion to 4th team? Looks like it. But we better hope like crazy that he re-dedicated himself after Spring ball to prove to the coaching staff that he wants the starting job, because he is the most physically gifted QB on this roster. On that I think we all agree.

Craig James Killed 5 Hookers

One of the worst hires every at NT, but obviously got much better with time.

CDL-S are what bus drivers must have ya d-bag.

I'm not back, I never left.

Again, it's an opponent in live action, not practice! What has McNulty shown in his limited time in live action? A propensity to turn the ball over in critical situations.

As I do for almost everything ESPN.

We'll get the UNT Finance and Accounting Department right on that. Oh. Too soon?

then we have to get away from being a liberal arts school and concentrate on business, engineering and the sciences. No other way around it.