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Doesn't the number of players drafted provide a snapshot of a program's recruiting success and failure some 3-4 years ago rather than the state of a program at present? Sure, Texas didn't have any players drafted, but their head coach had 3 taken in the first round, so if I'm a UT alum, I'm optimistic about the present and the future - and I'm moving on from the past. Similarly, as a UNT alum, I'll be more disappointed if we don't see some guys go in next year's and that of 2016, than I am regarding this year's draft. Our momentum is upward, we are moving forward. That projects positively for the future, which will be reflected in the level of talent across the board, as well as subsequent NFL drafts.

I was in New York at Madison Square Garden for the draft when Cody Spencer got drafted in 2004 on day 2 in the 6th round. We had skipped a Yankees game to take in the 2nd day of the draft because we loved the first day so much. I yelled and clapped like a proud fool, in a room full of silence after the selection was made. It was very exciting to me. That's me rocking the Moon jersey...

"Derek Thompson‏@DerekThompson_710m Just to clear things up, I've been invited to the Denver Broncos mini camp. Thankful for the opportunity and can't wait to compete! QBs work"

Really? You have schadenfreude because the Horns don't have a draft pick for the first time in 77 years (Longest streak of any school in the country) when we haven't had a draft pick in how many years??? Glass Houses dude.

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Sadly, I just don't care, and that is worse than being pissed off. Bring on football.

What a party killer...thank you. GMG

This is the best way to deal with the CUSA mandate to not have students directly behind the visitor's bench - fill the first few rows with recent grads! How many rows are the students being pushed back, anyway?

Yes sir. 100%

i like the deal and the location, especially for new grads that don't have families....they get to be back with the students where they cut their teeth!

Thoughts?

http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Chargers-Agree-to-Terms-with-17-Rookie-Free-Agents/bafbef67-ab54-4cbf-87a9-8b425609cfc8 Here's a list of Free Agents WR signed by San Diego (what matters in regards to Brelan): Brelan's edge is obviously his special teams ability. Danny Woodhead was fielding kick returns last year for SD he averages just 21.8 yards per attempt on 12 attempts. Woodheads longest return was 37 yards. It was good enough for 36th best KR in the league. San Diego ranked a weak #26 as a team in the returns category. So i think Brelan is a really calculated signing. Keenan Allen fielded 15 punt attempts with an average of 8.3 yards per return. He was the #31 best returner in the league. Great receiver for them though, 1,046 yards on 71 catches. He should have no problem stealing the return spotlight, it will allow the other two guys to focus on the offensive piece. Woodhead, Allen, Gates were the biggest producers last year. A footnote is Eddie Royal, he's their #2 receiver and has great return potential. He recently restructured his deal in the off-season so he could stay in San Diego. He caught 47 passes for 631 yards. Brelan could break into the receiving core but i don't think that's why he's there, which I think is a double-edge sword. He has a niche, i hope they give him a shot to expand out with it. Other recievers: 16 Seyi Ajirotutu WR 26 6-3 215 5 Fresno State 86 Vincent Brown WR 25 5-11 190 4 San Diego State 80 Malcom Floyd WR 32 6-5 225 9 Wyoming 73 Dontrelle Inman WR 25 6-3 198 R Virginia --Tobais Palmer WR 24 5-11 178 1 North Carolina State 16 Tevin Reese WR -- 5-11 163 R Baylor

OK, everyone step away from the cliff...for today.

If this is the roster we go into 2014-2015 with (far from guaranteed, based on the past): PG - Chris Jones, Todd Eaglin, GWP SG - Mo Aniefiok/TJ Taylor, C. Ward, GWP, D. Harris SF - Jordan Williams, Greg Wesley/Aniefiok, Muhammed Ahmed PF - Muhammad Ahmed, Jeremy Combs/Wesley PF - Colin Voss, Armani Flannigan 6th man: Who ever isn't starting between Taylor and Aniefiok. I've never seen Combs show any small forward skills like ball handling or scoring much from outside the paint. Cooley, who's seen him play live confirmed this. I don't see him at SF. As for Wesley, he has the skill set to play SF but he needs a lot of work refining his dribbling and shooting. The ability is there though, hence all those offers he had. But we'll need him in the post too.

https://twitter.com/miller_tonja/status/465883593944756225https://twitter.com/brettvito/status/465894971623481344 Miller time in New Orleans! Go Drew!

Monday morning notes (Wesley still at UNT, hoops assistant Anwar to decide soon, UNT TE Drew Miller to mini camp): http://t.co/8keHVemfFm — Brett Vito (@brettvito) May 12, 2014 Wesley still current member of team

I'll be in the chat all day today if you want to ask questions.

The deal is here! Call/Email today!

For what it's worth, Brelan made the NFL.com All-Undrafted Team. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349528/article/jordan-lynch-jackson-jeffcoat-lead-2014-allundrafted-team

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I agree with Gray Eagle, it is not where you start but where you finish. Why are many people publicly stating our coaching staff does not know how to recruit just because utSA has 9 commitments listed and UNT has no recruits publicly committed. WTH? Why the heck are these people measuring our recruiting success as compared to the road chickens? These people need to stop constantly publicly comparing our coaches recruiting efforts against other schools coaches recruiting efforts. Cry-- cry-- cry-- we have no commitments! Oh no, the sky is falling! It is the coaches fault we have no commitments to show off! These people need to trust in coach Mac, and trust in his staff! Since these recruiting experts know more about recruiting, then by all means go talk to the coaches yourself and complain we have no commitments. Instruct the coaches on the in's and out's of successful recruiting. Tell'em how to do it! Your the experts on recruiting. Apparently, the staff will recruit previously committed players to flip over to NT! This shows me the staff has no fear when recruiting the people they want! I will say this now. The 2015 class will be the best Coach Mac class since Coach Mac arrived. The classes just keep getting better and better each year! Remember NT already has 7-8, D1 transfers on the team that will count against the 2015 class. Plus several gray shirts too! I would say these players count as commitments for the 2015 class. I will say NT is in very good shape for the 2015 class now, and will become much better as this recruiting year progresses through to February 2015.

get off the ledge, man. we'll get our recruits.

North Texas LB Zach Orr (@ZO35 ) has signed a free agent deal with the Baltimore Ravens! #UNT #DeSotoU pic.twitter.com/DGx6JxBvrB — UNTSportsGuy (@UNTSportsNewz) May 10, 2014 This post has been promoted to an article

Brelan Chancellor (@BC_3 ) has signed a free agent deal with the San Diego Chargers! #UNT #GMG pic.twitter.com/5EFcLJoP0O — UNTSportsGuy (@UNTSportsNewz) May 10, 2014 This post has been promoted to an article

as a huge Charger fan, I can tell you he has to make it as a kick returner. Royal is solid in punt returns but he does get hurt alot. Our kick return game was one of the worst in the NFL last year. It was so bad that Ronnie Brown was returning kicks late in the year.....he runs about a 4.7 40....not good.

Proud of both of these guys. Didn't take long!

As far as breaking the NFL draft drought, Cyril Lemon has a good chance. (Started every game from his freshman year on, 1st team C-USA, etc.) Derek Akunne at 244 lbs or Lairamie Lee might sneak in around the 7th round. (both had C-USA honors) Johnson and Y'Barbo are the last of the players that Coach Mac inherited to have any chance. I agree that a team can have success in C-USA without draftable players. Boise took down several ranked big 5 conference teams by having players with enough talent that the NFL drafted several of them. Since 2000 they have had 26 players drafted. (21 since 2006) They won because they had enough talent to do it.

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com We've had one player drafted in 17 years?

That's what makes landing 3 stars in CUSA that much sweeter. Hate to break it down like this but a 3* to most CUSA teams is equivalent to a most P5 schools landing a 4*. Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue, Utah, Wazzou, NC St, Wake, etc. land as many 4* as we do 3*, and I mean 4* out of the gate. A 5* to the above named schools would be equivalent to us or other CUSA schools snagging a 4*. It doesn't happen, and when it does it's rare. We have to aim at making our recruiting classes dominantly 3*. In hand we would have a legitimate punchers against anybody. Settling 2* and NR's will get allow us to be a mid-major program. Consistently landing 3* will bring a very bright future. The proof is in the pudding. I know that stars and ratings get tweaked throughout the recruiting season due to offer lists and school interest, but look at the mid-majors that consistently land those 3*, you will see them winning their conference and/or being an annual force within their conference. Toledo, Bowling Green, Boise, NIU, Marshal, ECU, Houston, etc. They bring in the 3* on a consistent basis and against the their conference foes they are consistently winning, and a couple of those schools beat P5's consistently as well.

I really hope a ton of season ticket holders don't renew. It's the best way to send a message to an AD that I'm sure doesn't care that the continued head in the sand behavior is unacceptable. The AD won't feel pressure any other way.

Really does seem like decades ago. You'll be shocked how little you miss watching a Benny coached team in person.

What Mac said was never true??? You are right that I bought in hook line and sinker. After going 8 - 40 the 4 years prior to his arrival, what should have he said? How would you have assessed the situation? This year there were 76 players taken that were not from the big 5 conferences. It is pretty much that way every year. The fact that we haven't had a single player taken in years makes a pretty harsh statement.

Was PJ a Benny kid? Given he GTFOASAP but he was a freshman right?

Oh... Ok?

Right the NFL used to have 17 rounds in the draft. So the players that would have been taken in those last 10 rounds are now taken as undrafted players. This year ,so far, West Texas has had 7 players signed.

Being drafted and Free Agency don't mean as much today as they did 20-30 years ago. The number of free agents versus draftees on NFL teams have changed with a much higher representation of Free agents. So that is one factor, though not the only. Nevertheless, coming into camp as a free agent definitely does not have the stigma that it had years ago. The coaches are more than willing to see what their free agent signees can do.

So what does it suggest when a D1 University goes year after year after years without a player being drafted? I pointed out that the O-line may break the drought next year with Y'Barbo, Lemon, and Johnson. Many many players have made worthwhile contributions and played their hearts out while at UNT. The title of this thread was: UNT’s NFL Draft drought continues — quick thoughts I guess I should have said "I can;t believe we haven't had a bunch of players drafted over the past several years." I admit I'm a UNT homer and that my hypocrisy knows no bounds, but that might have been a little over the top.

It suggests nothing of the kind. It has been at least since the Fry era that UNT has made any significant impact on the NFL draft. Please quit repeating that goofy mantra that suggests players such as Lance Dunbar, Brelan Chancellor, Zach Orr, Mason Y'Barbo, etc. made no worthwhile contributions to the program.

Was there suppose to be someone drafted? I guess I got out of the out the loop and focused more on basketball. I knew Braylon had a good chance of being signed after the draft but didn't know if anyone else even had a chance for that. (Just based in what I had read online months ago though)

Brelan Chancellor (@BC_3 ) has signed a free agent deal with the San Diego Chargers! #UNT #GMG pic.twitter.com/5EFcLJoP0O

Don't worry . . . our camel's got a very sturdy back.

I saw Johnny Jones texting while driving

If true , this should be the final straw

MGB: http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2014/05/unt-recruiting-target-series-matt-hiter.html/

I'll be sure to let my officer who is lying in a Baylor hospital bed right now because he was rear ended LAST NIGHT (while blocking traffic with all of his lights on) by a lady who was texting while driving that things are ok because deterence doesn't work. Should I tell him that his torn ligaments in his neck hurt less because the law is "silly" or because we're all hypocrits? Please be specific. But, hey, I'm just some dumb ol' cop hypocrit. It's not like researchers have proven a rise in traffic crashes and fatalities because of texting... "Many studies have clearly demonstrated the risks related to texting while driving. One study shows texting and driving raises the probability of a crash eightfold, while another shows it increases a truck driver’s chance of being in a crash by a factor of 24. Researchers call texting a “perfect storm” of danger because drivers take their hands off the steering wheel, and their eyes and minds are off the road. Read more: Driving Today: Do Anti-texting Laws Work? http://www.drivingtoday.com/features/archive/texting_while_driving/index.html#ixzz31HCUufbT" And it's not as if deterence minded laws are worth-while absent 100% success, right? I mean the death penalty hasn't reduced the number of serial killers, a legal drinking age hasn't stopped underage drinking and the presence of big red octagons that say "STOP" hasn't stopped intersection crashes. Let's just scrap them all because all they do is make us "feel good". Oooor, could it be, that you're simply arguing yourself in circles yet again?

https://twitter.com/C__Robertson/status/464817085131272193

Some of the time. But I would argue that the vast majority of the time it is unenforced.