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Alright folks, it's everyone's favorite past-time, let's get to some look-a-likin'. I'll start. Rowdy the Roadrunner Murderous turkey from the absolutely worst movie ever, Thankskilling . . . . . Say, does anyone have Tim Cowlishaw's number? I have some stocks quotes and lottery numbers I want to run by him; I hear he's good with really sure-fire future predictions and assessments.

The Stand

I've seen nothing to show that as being the case. They lost to UCF, which turned right around and pulled out a W today on a last second field goal against Temple (Idaho's lone win this year). Personally I think we'd win, but at the very least I'd call it an even match.

Dear SMU: Sorry, I got a little carried away and didn't mean to threadjack.

Weak is aspiring to someday have a facility as nice as the Kibbie Dome. It's a great example of why y'all truly don't belong in this conference.

I'm a UNT grad. So is my son. So is his mom. So is my nephew. So is his wife. So is my cousin. So is his wife. So is .....well you get the point.

I'm flying in from NY for this game. My ass will be at Apogee even if the gates of hell open before kickoff. Go Mean Green!!

Put on my green tennis shoes and I boarded the plane Touched down in the land of the Liberty Bowl In the middle of a green parade Coach Dan McCarney Won't you look down over me Yeah, I got a Liberty Bowl ticket and I'm as green as a boy can be Then I'm bowling in Memphis I was walking with my feet ten feet off of Beale Bowling in Memphis Is this really real? I saw the ghost of Hayden on Union Avenue Followed him up to the gates of the stadium Then I watched him walk right through Now, security did not see him They just hovered round the entrance But there's a pretty major bowl game Waiting for the fans And it's down on the Memphis field When I was bowling in Memphis I was walking with my feet ten feet off of Beale Bowling in Memphis Is this really real? Now, they've got hot girls on the sidelines They've touchdowns on the field And Coach MaCarney, be glad to see you When you haven't got a prayer But boy you got a prayer in Memphis Now, Talons shoot the cannon And they run the flags after scores And they brought me down to field level And they asked me if I would Run the Big Ass Flag And I ran with all my might They said, "Tell me are a Mean Green fan?" And I said, "Man I am for life!" Bowling in Memphis I was walking with my feet ten feet off of Beale Bowling in Memphis Is this really real? Bowling in Memphis I was walking with my feet ten feet off of Beale Bowling in Memphis Is this really real? Put on my green tennis shoes and I Boarded the plane Touched down in the land of the Liberty Bowl In the middle of a green parade Touched down in the land of the Liberty Bowl In the middle of a green parade

1. The blocked punt at Georgia that tied the game in the 2nd half as it gave us some legitmacy with the media and fans. 2. The last play of the stand. If we hadn't made that play the other 7 wouldn't have counted. 3. Lairamie Lee's pick-6 against Middle Tenn. It started the 34-7 blowout of a very good team after the Tulane loss. If we had lost that game the season would look entirely different.

We have a HUGE 4 game stretch! Win em all !

Yes the Mean Green defense will be open for business...

Looking back at this season...I had to breath life into this post again. After Beating Ball State After scaring Georgia After THE STAND After #3 getting national recognition as a return specialist. There were so many defining moments in this season. I am sure there are more moments to come. THIS MEAN GREEN CAN WIN CUSA!!!!

Those two ranked teams were and still are HIGHLY overrated.

glad UTEP got the 33-10 win over those clowns

I think you could say many of us subconsciously expect failure. 8 years of losing will do that to a person. This game has many us worried for reasons that are not based in reason but in emotion. I will not rehash them here but they linger in most of our minds. Hope the team takes care of business because like Cougar, I am holding on too tight!

Anybody can hire a successful coach when you are throwing around 2,3, 4 million a year. Our coaches are below market, so you have to take some chances and hope they work out. Check the track record for football coaches hired at around our salary level - 50/50 probably is high.

North Texas plays New Years Day in the Heart of Dallas Bowl if we lose to either UTSA or Tulsa. North Texas plays New Years Day in the Heart of Dallas Bowl if we win CUSA-West but lose to either Marshall or ECU in the CUSA Conference Championship Game. North Texas plays New Years Eve in the Liberty Bowl if we beat both UTSA and Tulsa AND win the CUSA Conference Championship Game. Either bowl is outstanding. ps - Make sure you give and get the new Mean Green hoodies for Chrismas. This bright green shows up great on television.The Finish Line is currently running a special on their $40 North Texas hoodies, two for $40, and its even cheaper, two for $35 with free shipping if you order them online. Finish Line http://www.finishline.com/store/product/mens-north-texas-mean-green-college-hoodie/_/A-17132?productId=prod734243

Truth be told, I do feel like I get carried away with the words, but after reading the other stories, I figured I shouldn't hold back. I joined the board recently and have found the camaraderie to be great, save for the whole UTSA-hate thing that sprang up. Being in the company of people that are as proud of UNT as my wife and I is a pleasure, and since we live so far from what is going on back home, I love the constant stream of information everybody contributes here. I can't wait to see what the future holds for our Mean Green, and I look forward to keeping up with all of you as it unfolds here.

Don't worry about UTSA folks, they have their facilities plans in place. So there you go, if they can just win for about twenty years, they might be able to build a Kibbie Dome. They got this.

I was born in Odessa but only lived there six months until my family returned to my parent's hometown of El Paso. All of my Dad's family graduated from UTEP and as a kid all I heard about was the Miners. Not many years later we moved again, this time to McAllen, where I started first grade at a Catholic school. Our priest talked so highly of Notre Dame, it became the school I aspired to one day attend. Flash forward a few years, and I was at a youth basketball camp at the University of Texas-Pan American, which allowed me to live in the dorms and eat at the cafeteria. This was pretty impressive to me and at the end of the summer I famously quoted "I either want to go to Notre Dame or Pan Am," to this day my family won't let that one die. In elementary I started watching 'Great Chefs of the World' on the Discovery Channel. The exotic ingredients and crazy accents of those chefs blew me away, and as a visual learner, I loved seeing the variety of techniques they used to make foods beyond anything I knew about. I started cooking and would meticulously cut all the ingredients and set them out in small bowls (mise en place) then garnish the dish as well as I could. People always seemed to enjoy my cooking, and by the time I was in High School I had a plan; I would first get a degree in hospitality management, to learn the business side of things, then attend culinary school to refine my skills. As a sophomore in high school I had toured UNT while my family was figuring out where my older sister would go for her biology degree. She ended up picking UTSA, but there seemed to be something different going on at UNT's campus, and it stood out in my mind even after we went to Texas A&M and a bunch of other schools. When it came time for me to pick a school, I considered Colorado State, U of H, UNT, and Johnson & Wales, but could only visit the two Texas schools. At U of H our tour guide showed up late, he was literally still drunk from the previous nite and couldn't answer any of the questions our group had. On top of this I was not really impressed by the facilities and couldn't see myself there. We went back to UNT for my visit and I still had the feeling this was where I needed to be. In the following months, that feeling I had from that first visit became stronger, and I decided to follow my gut. I only applied to UNT and was proud to get my acceptance letter not long after. In 2004, as a socially awkward freshman in Denton, I sensed that this was my best chance to reinvent myself and vowed to try and be more outgoing. I still remember my very first weekend of school, finding my way to a stereotypical college party in someone's apartment and seeing people do keg stands, walking past couples making out, and eventually having the party broken up by the cops. It was not, and would never be, my scene. I started attending salsa dancing lessons where I met a cute Graphic Design student from Houston. Together we attended footbal and basketball games and, as I mentioned in another post, we followed the football team to our New Orleans Bowl birth, but regretfully didn't make the game. Despite the losing seasons over the next three years, the two of us attended games religiously, and lamented the weak turnout from our fanbase. I graduated in 2008, and my girlfriend graduated in 2009, but we stayed in the DFW area and continued to try and make it to campus for games. We even brought out my family for the Fouts Field Finale in 2010. I returned to UNT for graduate school, enrolling as part of the first cohort in the new Master of Science in International Sustainable Tourism (MIST) program. The unique thing about the MIST program is that it is a joint-degree offered between UNT and the Center for Tropical Agriculture Research and Extension (CATIE) in Turrialba, Costa Rica. After graduating I accepted a position to work at CATIE, and married my UNT sweetheart in December. She left her job at an advertising agency in Dallas and moved down here with me where we have created what we call the 'Texas Embassy' in our home. When we get lucky we are able to stream UNT games online, but more often than not, we end up listening via KNTU. As many of you have mentioned, since leaving Denton, it seems like all we do is think of ways to get back. When we finally do return to the states I look forward to buying season tickets, finally catching a game at Apogee, and putting faces to some of the names I've come to know on this board. Until then, my wife and I will continue doing our best to represent Mean Green nation here in Costa Rica.

Uhmm...I think Coach Mac and his staff are doing a heck of a job motivating our guys without the need of militarized tatics. Actually, don't see how this would help a football team get motivated...obviously isn't helping Hawaii all that much in terms of winning. I would stick to coach Mac's tatics, which seems to be a mixture of tough loved disciple along with compassion when the time is right and earned. All that leads to one word: family.

Born outside of Buffalo and grew up just north of Philly. Got beat up every day until I started hitting the gym and learned how to fight, but even then the closest I had to friends were a couple of groups that let me tag along so that I could be graced with their presence. My family didn't like me much either, so I just wanted to leave. I wasn't very motivated to do well in school because I just couldn't see things ever getting better, so I dropped from AP classes to prep classes and almost dropped out of school just so that I could leave. I couldn't get the approvals signed though, so I stuck around and finished just under the top quarter of my class with decent SATs even though I didn't bother to study. Nobody in my family had a degree but I knew I wanted something more, and affordable far-away schools with good art programs were pretty much UNM and UNT. I guess my parents wanted reason to get along better or something, and my dad flew for free as an air traffic controller, so we visited Denton and I felt so free being away from everything and loved the campus so I applied to exactly one school and was accepted. I didn't get a scholarship, but I was up for one of the store manager positions at the grocery store where I worked so I figured I'd just save up for a year or two and then start college (35K plus bonuses in the 90s was pretty lucrative for somebody just out of high school with no family connections). A couple of months before that would have happened, and a week and a half before the start of the fall semester, I got a call - a scholarship recipient decided to go elsewhere and there was a spot open. So I packed up all my stuff and said goodbye to the few people that sort of cared and moved 1500 miles to a school in a state where nobody knew me. A year and a half before that I'd had a dream about an amazing girl and when I woke up I drew a picture of her. The Saturday before classes started, I met her which was kind of weird. Sadly, we broke up and I had a hard time with relationships until a few years ago when we got back together and got married. In the years in between, I studied hard so that I could keep my scholarship and got better grades in tougher classes than ever before, was involved in just about everything on campus and exercised like a crazy person in between. Until having a family, the only times in my life where I wasn't severely depressed were when I felt like I was making a difference through campus involvement, volunteer work, tutoring, etc. UNT taught me that with a lot of hard work and a bit of timing and luck, anyone can accomplish just about anything, as exemplified by so many amazing people I've been fortunate enough to meet through our North Texas network of students, alumni, professors, etc. I wasn't interested in sports from a spectator's standpoint until some of the girls from the UNT Volleyball and Basketball teams asked me to come to games and bring friends. I got hooked, just because the atmosphere is so great when you know that almost everyone involved has something invested in the outcome, more than just a passing need to find a team to cheer for. So in between overextending myself with too many commitments, I made it to games that I could and followed the results of those I couldn't. For me, UNT Athletics gave another opportunity to show support of the one place that gave me a chance and showed me more than anyone could ever learn in a classroom. I may be far away now, but helping to organize the alumni in Arizona just gives me another opportunity to give back as much as possible until I pay off my damn student loans. Hey, that scholarship only lasted 4 years and didn't cover housing, so...you know.

What? I put up a weather report and encouraged everyone to invite people. I understand you need a cause to stand for - this isn't a good one.

"Weather. Nothing can stop it from happening."

...Thanking me for my support. They did this last year so it must have been well received. Darvin Kidsy was the athlete who called me.

Akron @ MTSU Loyola Chicago @ Tulane Texas Southern @ FIU Tulsa @ Missouri St.

The only thing that gives me a shred of hope is that the preseason predictions for our football team were pretty bad too.

Frankie went to Hollywood for the bye week...

Missouri St. 96 Tulsa 93.

My bad...how could I have forgotten "the STAND"??? This thread is irreverent now...that was a historical program moment...enough said! *just to be clear...I'm not being sarcastic...that was the defining play/plays of this season

I know we haven't had one since we return to 1A, but this is called a possible "instate rivalry" and is a wonderful thing and the sign of a healthy athletic program.

Congratulations to the Midshipmen.

This thread has to be record weather coverage on GMG.com

just for a heads up... to start filling out yout sheet of bowl games... Navy is officially going to the Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl

I was born and raised in EP. I spent 2 years at UTEP before transferring to UNT. In 2003 I finished and moved back home for family reasons. I stayed and did my MM at UTEP before moving back to DFW. Maybe sometime we'll meet up and chat over some tasty pregame beers. Welcome home.

Steve is a friend of mine from our days in Amarillo. GREAT guy. True weather nerd. I learned a LOT from him.

50-50 is probably a better rate for hiring a successful head coach than most schools.

Umm, you mean the same person who hired coach mac who has turned the football program completely around in 3 years?

Question is , will they be bringing June Jones ?

Ask and ye shall recieve. Rick

If it was just market, kindly explain why they picked UTEP over UNT? Jeez, do you know anything about college football that hasn't occurred in the last 3 years?

You keep talking about the DFW market being the main attraction that got UNT into C-USA. I see why you'd think that. And yes, I do understand the concepts of "marketing" and "fan base" and all that jazz. I got my undergraduate degree at the third-largest university in this state, which happens to be in Houston. After the first season, in which I was a shy kid who only went to two games with a few friends from high school, the only game in Houston that I missed for the rest of my undergraduate career was when I attended a funeral. And that school, which had been having some pretty darn good football seasons and overall sports accomplishments, was flat shut out of the Big 12 when four former SWC schools made the move. (Was I confused? Yes. Bitter? Nah. I'm the oddball that always liked Houston's spot in C-USA better.) But my point is... By your logic, Houston should have been invited to the Big 12 instead of Baylor because the Houston television market is far more attractive than the Waco market. That obviously did not happen. Hell, SMU or TCU should have been invited instead of Baylor. Nope. Your argument in its context is invalid. This point is pretty silly. Fourth largest university in the state- just barely- with over 120 years of academics and many more than ten seasons of football. Every school has its frustrating, disappointing, maddening seasons. Those are part of the "dues" that we paid. Don't take this post as hostile. I like that UTSA has a football program. I like its spirit. I was so antsy during the first part of the Houston-UTSA game that one of my neighbors called to see what all the yelling was about. I can't believe you guys snagged Coker. But the dues... you guys just haven't paid 'em yet. And it ain't all y'all's fault that you guys got first crack at the big piece of chicken (sorry, I just couldn't resist that one, but it does fit here), but after seeing what Houston had to go through in the SWC years and UNT had to go through since I came here during the Dodge years- and knowing that longer-lived UNT fans have experienced much, much more frustration and disappointment and heartbreak than I- I'm just saying, man. Dues. Y'all haven't paid 'em. You guys were able to drive up to the window and *poof* Welcome to FBS... would you like mashed potatoes or another one of our fresh sides with that?

Finals from last night. Charlotte 83 Elon 69 (4) Duke 97 FAU 64 ODU 70 Murray St. 60 NMSU 86 UTEP 73 Texas A&M 68 Rice 65

What we did(mostly the students) on Halloween was pretty awesome... For us. My wife, 3 year old, and 6 year old came out... And a couple of buddies came out. Overall, we should be proud of the showing during the week on a holiday. Sign of good things happening... And hopefully good things to come.

Esteban Santiago

Had no affiliation to UNT at all. I grew up in Manhattan, Kansas and was an avid K-State fan (so there is not a person on here who has seen worse football than me). I moved to Texas, long story short I had a little boy and am not able to get back to Kansas so I adopted UNT as my team in 2010. I have to say I can not be more pleased with my decision. I have met alot of nice people and everyone in the athletic department has been nothing but the best to me and my family. Because of this I now have alot more green in my closet than I do purple. I look forward to what the future holds for UNT athletics and I believe in this program 100%.

If it rains, and attendance is poor, the library will recover its $1.7 million budget shortfall.

Women's Golfer Georgina Mundy from England called me.

What happened to the "good" dual threat QB that Mac promised? Thompson has had a pretty decent year but this offense is still limited with pro-style QB's. What happens when Lemon, Johnson and the other horses up front graduate? This kid looks taller than 5-11 but I don't see much more than another guy with a red cap on.