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A couple thousand...really......Time to defend my alma mater the University of Iowa....The Hawkeyes have always had high attendance at bowl games and a game in Dallas on New Year's Day should be no different. Here is the attendance for their bowl games in their recent history along with their regular season attendance for that year: 2005 Season Outback Bowl vs Florida 65,881 70,585 Average Home Attendance 2006 Season Alamo Bowl vs Texas 65,875 70,585 " " " 2008 Season Outback Bowl vs South Carolina 55,117 70,169 " " " 2009 Season Orange Bowl vs Georgia Tech 66,131 70,211 " " " 2010 Season Insight Bowl vs Missouri 53,453 70,585 " " " 2011 Season Insight Bowl vs Oklahoma 54,247 70,585 " " "

Was said announcer at every football game, saying the same thing 15 times? When I was at a house party in college, if there was one guy venting about something, he was a guy with a legit concern. If same guy is at every single party I ever go to, venting to everyone about the same thing, he was just an a-hole. I don't think you're an a-hole, but you don't seem to want to acknowledge the psychology of your approach.

I totally agree with all your points. Well..........except maybe one.

I enjoy your posts. I don't think you are always negative. Honest talk about our teams the last decade is naturally going to sound negative sometimes because of the black cloud we've been under. The forecast looks better these days though. Here are my thoughts. Over beers in the heat before the Idaho game my friend and I were talking about how UNT is like an abusive spouse. She will beat you at home. She will cheat on you. Then apologize. We'll say UNT is just stressed out at work. Then we'll come home. It's a vicious cycle but we will keep coming back. Time and time again. But lately she isn't abusive. She is starting to treat us like we expect to be treated. Drunken logic but I start every season optimistic and take a beating. I don't think we'll get let down this year. I really don't.

This is the worst thread I have ever read on GMG. You'd think you people were debating the finer points of Mogadishu vs Juarez. Between the Confucius wanna be statements and the internet tough guys who couldn't last a tour with Air Supply my brain is bruised from reading the stupidity of this mindless discussion.

UNT90, you are trying to win an argument that you cannot possibly come close to winning with your always non-stop negative posts. And then you get pissed at many of us for calling you out on every one of them; that is, those that we choose to read knowing what we're going to hear from you...again). I know...it's now time to isolate and demonize the one who is telling you all this as what so many others (than just myself) think about your (always) negative posts. We've all posted a less than positive post from time to time, but most of us eventually come back to the high road. You see a dark cloud for every silver lining post that any of us post. There is really something deeply wrong with that. If this is all about getting attention, is this the kind of attention you really want?

So. Miss. That's what I'm worried about right now.

Take a baseball bat Wrap it in barbed wire Douse it in kerosene Light it on fire Hit yourself in the nuts with it four times (once for each year) Tell your wife and children you're better for it

Oh, I forgot the rules. Since I wasn't there, because I live roughly 10 hours from Ruston, my opinion doesn't hold as much weight as your "reality." Typical logic. You can't wait to jump on here 6 minutes in to the game to bitch about something, but you must enjoy the remainder of the game and drive 5 hours home before posting a response. I make the same drive for home games that you made for this one, but I will remember to bow at your feet next time we cross paths. I think you fail to realize that you refer to your opinion as reality, whether talking football or beer, and dismiss everyone that may have a differing point of view. You may find out that responding respectfully, whether you agree or not, would not create such responses from others.

Pot meet kettle. You start a thread regarding the La Tech game and our slow start that gets everyone in an uproar and then refuse to post when we get it going and take the lead. It is okay to look at the positive occassionally. Try it. You might be surprised have much happier you'd be.

Right, cause nothing brings in recruits like talking about how great a Todd Dodge is while he is going 1-11. Biggest load of BS ever. If people don't think like you, you don't want to hear from them. That has been a HUGE problem for this program for years. Just ignore the negative and pretend everything will be ok. If reality is considered negative, well, I guess I'm negative. But I know we have a LOT of work to do to get 30k at any game, home or close road bowl. Ignoring that reality won't make it go away.

When she was seven years old, my daughter, watching a UNT game, said of Todd Dodge, "He's worse than cafeteria food!" Today, she has a regional audition at a South lake middle school right outside Dragon Stadium. She said, "I'm going to spit on the ground there today." I'm raising such a young lady.

Have at it fellas (and ladies): Southern Miss Roster http://www.southernmiss.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/smis-m-footbl-mtt.html I'll kick this thing off: Seymour the Golden Eagle Angry Big Bird Hey, by the way guys, I heard that Houston has some nice areas and some ghetto areas. The ghetto areas to stay away from are: West University Place, Belaire, and River Oaks. Is that right? Rick Villareal is asking me because he was going to Katy to 'visit' with their successful H.S. football coach and didn't know where to stay. I was hoping our new moderator could maybe do a flyover of these neighborhoods and give us some detailed high-def pictures, preferably of murderous crimes being committed or of a local high school game where one school is bullying the other on the gridiron. Thanks in advance for your responses, and TODD DODGE RULES!!

Really? You create a thread about the guy?

See just another reason why Houston sucks! OK...couldn't resist. Sorry Houston Mean Greeners. Surely there is a decent spot in that city and metro area of yours. Surely. But, here's an idea...depending upon cost...any have a home large enough for a group? Everyone might be willing to chip in for the broadcast cost and bring a six pack and munchies. Have absolutely no clue if such is even possible, but I just cannot believe that no place in Houston with have the channel on their sport's package. Must be tough being a Houston area guy! Move back "home" to Mean Green Land. That would make all things better! Yes, indeed, it would!

Among C-USA Starting QBs: QB Rating 1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 152.3 2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 137.0 Attempts 1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 306 2. Eric Soza, UTSA: 242 3. Derek Thompson: 224 Completions 1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 228 2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 152 Completion Percentage 1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 74.5% 2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 67.9% Yards 1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 2,325 2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 1,680 If this trend keeps up, the C-USA Championship Game will feature to two best quarterbacks in the conference.

The cameras face that side of the stadium and generally the student side is more entertaining to look at. That's the case everywhere.

I didn't realize aTm had cornered the market on pep rallies. We do have our fair share of blatantly copying traditions, but to say that an organized pep rally would be a copy of the midnight yell is just kind of absurd.

Come early before coming to East Side Social Club at 6pm. Day of the Dead Festival on Hickory St. and Industrial St. is going on. Coffin Races at 1pm down Hickory and lots of food and music.

MTSU beating or playing with Marshall would indicate to me that we could beat either Marshall or ECU 9who lost by 3 to Tulane, just like UNT). While ever game is different, and different teams match up differently, Marshall losing would indicate that there is no alpha male in the conference this year, and that EVERYTHING is up for grabs. So, ya, I'll be on the MTSU bandwagon.

Should be 623

You are still ignoring the fact that your posts are always negative. You going to deny that by changing or diverting this conversation to my long posts now? Great, you would do well in Washington at present time (until the silent majority changes that train wreck once and for all). And so damn funny how many PM's or even phone calls (in past years) I've received from those who read those 5,000 word posts who agree with most of their content. Some of that group actually have an attention span to be able to read and comprehend past 25 words. (Amazing what a real college education can do for you). In fact, for about 42 years many I know have agreed with much I have had to say about North Texas....mostly positive but moreso, because they feel I have been right. Of course, I've liked what most of them have to say about UNT, too; but funny (once again) is how I would still have stated my opinions with or w/o any of their approvals. I don't live my life needing a pat on the back or someone's approval--never have. Some of that group of fellow alums sometimes remind me of my endless (not always easy to be chosen for publication) "Letters to the Sports Editors" to the DMN, FWST and the (now defunct) Dallas Times Herald thru the years and that before the internet. In fact, I received a couple of nice notes from late UNT president Al Hurley and a couple of his staff with some of those. Why? Those published letters were upbeat and positive things about North Texas. Am I being self serving by telling you all of that? No, because those who know me (and you do not) know I don't gravitate to the "LOOK WHAT I DONE, MA' " mode of operation. Not my style, but to tell it like it is "is" my style. And when I deserve it, I can take it back if I've dished it out. This post will end any response I will ever post concerning any of your Negative Ned'isms, UNT90. You are history to me and I know for fact for others, too. Hope you will find the High Road at some point but for now, you are one lost highway with a destination that doesn't seem as if it could ever be a happy one. You should take you own vacation from GMG.com because you are not a positive contributor of this forum at any time as you have now started using the "reality card" as your reason for being negative now. Good try with that one. Good luck.

If we aren't careful we will have transfere the problem seeing that word on this board.

I predicted 5-7. Still in the running.

I went 8-5. We should (I hope) go 3-0 against SM, UTEP, and UTSA. If we go 1-2 against Rice, Tulsa, and a bowl team that would be 8-5. We might be a game better than that and end up 9-4. We may need a lucky bounce or a few breaks to get there.

They'll always be an ex conference mate to me.

Iowa will bring a crowd... Y'all are under estimating how many fans go to bowl games. Also Iowa didn't go to a bowl game last year and the fans are wanting a post season

Come on Tulsa.....

Dude, I could give an F about attention. I'll leave that to your 5,000 word post self. My opinions are my opinions. Just because I wont proclaim RV the greatest AD ever in the history of all-time, won't jump on the 25 year extension band wagon for DMac, and don't have the delusional belief that we will draw 30k to a holiday bowl game when we can't even draw it to the opening of a beautiful new stadium doesn't mean I'm negative, just based in reality. You were, also, several year ago. Then you stopped posting, took a happy pill, and are back. And that's great. But some things simply haven't changed. Pointing that out when people like you go into fantasy land isn't negative, it's just a dose of reality that you can't seem to stomach.

There is almost no such thing as an original idea at this point. Good luck coming up with something that no one has ever done before. Knowing that, why not give this a try? If it doesn't work , blame Plumm for a terrible idea and try something else.

Blatantly copying other's traditions is not something us students are too fond of. Even though it's not at midnight, students will easily see through it. If the ULL game is anything to go by last year then you won't have any trouble getting students to the game. You should really come up with something that will KEEP students at the game, especially after half time, as many will want to leave early so they can attend their Halloween parties.

There will be a whole lot more than 30 thousand North Texas fans if we play in the Heart of Dallas Bowl.

I just never got this from him. I mean, he stuck with what he knew, and he coach-speaked and smokescreened the heck out of his time here. But I don't think he had a choice. He can't say, "Well heck, I guess I'm not ready for this.", or "We're not a good football team because of me." He had to stick to his plan, however bad it was, and stay positive... thus the 'better husbands and fathers' (which I've heard coach Mac, and a myriad of other coaches say) and player-X 'grading out at 90%' or whatever. Stubborn, arrogant, alienating is what I got out of coach Dickey sometimes. Not from Dodge. Deer in the headlights is what I got from Dodge. But, maybe you have a specific experience with him that I didn't have or something.

That Dodge era was a nightmare.

yes.. yes... U of H will be a great program.... FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!!

We had such a shoe string budget that limited our search to a successful Texas High School football coach or college assistants. The great Darrell Dickey had never been a head coach (prior to and after UNT). We also played in the worst stadium in America in the weakest conference in America. The only difference between Darrell Dickey and Todd Dodge is that Dickey coached the first few years of a start up league while Dodge coached when it was much better. The current coaching staff continues to benefiting with a much greater commitment to football. (Head coach's salary is almost double that of Dodge & Dickey combined, playing in a brand new stadium that most folks never thought would happen and in a better conference. The new staff is also benefitting from many of Dodge's last recruiting class. Dodge continues to take too much flack in my opinion based on the cards he was dealt. Reverse roles and it would be interesting to see a higher powered offense in Apogee; than what we get now. Not saying he would have us undefeated like his Carroll teams but I think we would have a similar record or better.

I would think having opposing players fall down to keep from scoring would be a ton more humiliating than getting beat 91-0.

Well..... Todd Dodge is hired as the HC. There is some misgiving, because he has never been a college HC before, but many are convinced he is going to be a great recruiter and it will all work out. At his introductory press conference he states he is bringing in an all HS staff because "football is football" and it doesn't matter no one had any major college football level experience. This is the point where I begin to panic. We lost our first game to OU 79-10. A few more panic but most rationalize that it's OU, he doesn't have his recruits, a new system takes time, etc. We go 2-10 that year (2007) more people begin to panic. But it's early, surely it has to get better? We go 1-11 in 2008. The panic is real. We go 2-10 in 2009, the majority is in real panic, though a few are telling them that this will still work out, he just needs time, the hire was a good one, etc. We start off 1-6 in 2010, and Dodge is let go. Having learned from BlackJerseyGate, he is not allowed to finish the season.

Q: if we don't change offensive approach and still win out, does UNT90 still post 10 times a day about passing more on 1st half 1st downs?

True, but 90 played the "what if we were 0-6 card." About as predictable as Al Sharpton playing a race card. His post had nothing to do with USM or their fans.

Stopped in there on the way home. Good food. 40% off all burgers in October. But still going to Denton on Saturday.

Roll him out there now, we are only half way through the season. We have a chance to do something this season, which would help recruiting immensely! Recruiting leads to several players, not just one.

This... I want them all to lose--the Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas schools, no matter if they are AQ or non-AQ. We get no benefit from having A&M, UT, Tech, Baylor, TCU, OU, OSU, Arkansas, or LSU being ranked as AQs. We are hurt even more when UH, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane win and use their position on a higher rung of the conference ladder against us in recruiting. It hurts us if La Tech, UTEP, UTSA, or Rice beat us out for bowl spots in CUSA. And it hurts when Texas State, ULL, ULM, and Arkansas State do well because they can convince DFW HS kids to leave the Metroplex and get immediate playing time at their schools when they have signature wins to recruit on. I want them all to lose as much as possible, unless they are playing each other. Then, its CUSA schools first, AQ teams next (since them losing to anyone outside of CUSA is a huge boost to their recruiting), SBC teams, and always the AAC schools. I want SMU and UH to lose every game, go bankrupt from spending all their money on travel to all of the outlying outposts in that conference, and then to drop down to FCS or quit football altogether (ok, maybe this last part might be a bit extreme...)

The baby is Dodge...the cat is college football.

You will never make moderator with that attitude.

1994 Cameron Yoe 3-7 1995 Cameron Yoe 5-5 1996 Carrollton Newman Smith 4-6 1997 Carrollton Newman Smith 5-5 1998 Keller Fossil Ridge 2-7 1999 Keller Fossil Ridge 5-5 2012 Marble Falls 4-6 2013* Marble Falls 2-5 Total record outside Southlake: 30-46 = winning percentage of .395 *Season still in progress Southlake titles before Todd Dodge -- 1988, 1992, 1993 Southlake title after Todd Dodge -- 2011

True... Last time we talked about the new coog logo I posted this and I will post it again because I hate the coogs...

You and the rest of us who don't like Houston. Like I told ya...

... Sucked

AWESOME. Let's beat them 91-0!!!