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2013 recruits will start workouts and classes on Monday. Syd Moore is on campus. Loving is also.

Part of me was just hacking ya Billy. No need to get too riled up. But seriously, trying to hard sell right in the middle of a fireworks display isn't the way to do it. People are all there for one thing - bad ass fireworks. Stomping down just before climax to sell tickets to football would gain you nothing more than a lot of: "What did he say?" HEY! WHO TURNED OFF THE FIREWORKS!?" Etc etc etc. It would be akin to having an amorous moment with your wife and after your 4 minutes of fury you stopping and saying: "Honey, remember in two months we need to go talk to our insurance agent about life insurance. And now I will continue our heated moment of love making." Granted, she likes the idea of life insurance but she's not gonna hear a word you say and the real moment will be ruined. Now she's just angry. The soft sell (no pun intended) is the way to go in a situation like last night. Show'em what ya got and make them realize, Oh yeah, this is nice and could be a lot of fun on other days not called 4th of July. And if ya want, throw in at the end of the display - Don't miss, Apogee Stadium fireworks after every Mean Green home game.

Our biggest rival will become La Tech

That's what every day looks like for Green59.

SMU had a float in the Lake HIghlands 4th of July parade and a table set up after the parade to sell season tickets. Did we have anything at the Kiwanas fireworks show to sell season tickets? You know, in our own stadium.

I watched the Fireworks from the Club Level last night. I have been going to see 4th of July activities for many years at many locations and hands down this was the best one I have attended! Thank you to the Kiwanis Club and the Athletic Department for a great night!

Terrible idea. Would kill all the pageantry of the fireworks display.

Or, since we're in the land of make believe, would you rather have 5-7 with DT because (just like last season) he throws as many picks as TD's or 7-5 with BB because he made multiple rookie mistakes but also allowed us to out score several teams who had to play honest at the line of scrimmage?

They're out there, just have to find the right taco bell.

I remember Thompson throwing the ball away,UNT90, in the Troy game last year on the dipsy-doodle. He threw it WAY away from anything.

I hear you on the conference choice, but Tulsa and La Tech made their way without being in any big conference after the i-aa split in the early 80s, but they put resources into the program so that they could stay afloat as a DIvision 1-A program, even as independents. Now, they are doing better than ever. I cannot agree with you more on the hiring standards here. We care about athletic costs, not athletic success.

The entire DFW media is driven by two things when it comes to college sports reporting: 1.) Are you in the Big XII or SEC? You get the main coverage, if the answer is yes. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, especially in Ft. Worth, where TCU is their home town team with lots of civic pride. That's where the majority of alums and fans watch college football in these parts, anyway. 2.)If you aren't in the two major regional conferences, were you ever in the SWC? If yes, then you'll get coverage because you have tradition and still have older alums who still read newspapers. TCU was this way before getting into the Big XII. SMU gets great coverage from the DMN since its there in town. I'm fairly certain UH and Rice get decent coverage in the Houston Chronicle, too. Would they all like more? Sure, but the AQs with big enrollments, alumni, and fanbases in the region will always get more. Then you get to North Texas. If you are a sports journalist in this area, all you have ever seen is North Texas flail athletically. And, even worse, you know that the university didn't even care about football enough to play at the top level of college football for 12 years. And when they decided to move back upward, it was a case of putting lipstick on a pig at the worst stadium in the country, joining far-flung conferences full of teams that no one cares about, and always playing the part of the sacrificial lamb against the teams that everyone does follow. We did this to ourselves. We could have done like La Tech or UTEP did and play in conferences with lesser known teams, but still did well enough to stay at the 1-A or get back up to it as fast as possible. Instead, we literally just quit caring. Now that we are finally trying to care about football 35 years later than we should have, its no surprise that we can't get any decent coverage in the DFW media or that we can't get recruits to consider coming here that are highly ranked. Its the ultimate mountain climb and it will be interesting to see if we can pull it off. History says no, but the size of resources availlable here says yes.

We could never hire this guy. He has head coaching experience.

some serious negative karma in this post. What is wrong with that word?

It was really a great write-up, and is generating so many good feelings in the comment thread that I couldn't even bring myself to take the required pot-shot at SMU. Rarely am I left quite so speechless.

But, and this is the unfortunate part, Kaspar has never been known to carry around a binder...he didn't really ever stand a chance.

The last words through the PA following the fireworks show were from Hank saying something like "Now we'll see you all back here on August 31st when we vandalize Idaho!"

I lived in the Metroplex for several years, and never met one.

Were they at least able to work in couple of MF'in Muricas? You know, to keep in classy with tradition and stuff.

I was thinking the same thing but you put it much more tactfully (than I would have). Remember, there's a limit of 105 when the season starts and we have Byrd, Jimmerson, Pegram, Lewis, Rollins, E Evans and Wilhite ahead of him and the first five are scholarship athletes. Eric Evans averaged more than 10 yards per carry his senior year and Wilhite has been a squadman for several years and did well in the spring scrimmage. Tough competition.

I believe a gracious admin edited his post for him. Of course, that's not to put your observation out of the realm of frequent possibility.

Did I just witness PlummMeanGreen argue with himself?

I saw a LOT of people donating. The morons who showed up with arms full of drinks and fast food, not so much. Fireworks looked good. But they looked even better with Apogee underneath them! This post has been promoted to an article

You do realize that having a green pass had absolutely no bearing on primary parking around Apogee today, right? Like, it shouldn't. It didn't. And we're all better for it. ----- The real issue here folks was WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT PUNK ROCK ABOMINATION OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM THAT THEY PLAYED BEFORE THE FIREWORKS STARTED?!?! It was despicable.

And new Celtics coach Brad Stephens

It's one thing that they barely pay attention to us, but even if they aren't very thorough in their research, the language is still the same. If the editors can't be bothered to ensure accurate reporting outside of the power conferences, that's bad enough, but you can still read the body of the text to see if there are any errors.

That and messages of endorsement from people like Coach Popovich.

If only he wasn't a North Texas grad he would be a strong candidate for our job here at North Texas. Being a North Texas grad is the kiss of death at this athletic department.

I am not DE90.

"Rapport"="report". This is a pretty major online sports journal. Can't they afford editors?

Bleacher Report was doomed from the beginning

Rice already has a primary rival and they will still be playing their 40+ year annual series for the coveted Bayou Bucket despite being in different conferences..

It mean Mitchell is a rookie and they're trying to improve a terrible team.

Upon further review of the above sudden burst of smack board political flatulence and how some words are considered code in this era.....I will say that my first understanding of the term ghetto probably came from the old "World At War" series (which I watched as a kid on Houston's PBS station--KUHT back in the 60's) with narration by Sir Lawrence Olivia. So the link below describes the kind of ghettos I first became aware of as a kid from the big metropolitan city of Danbury, Texas. Yet no matter how you slice it, a true ghetto-existence cannot be a good thing no matter one's race, creed or religion; especially for those millions who were forced to live in them in Germany, Poland and Czechoslavakia back in the 1940's. http://www.krakow-info.com/ghetto.htm

I want an estimate of the dead ones.

Did you voice Charlie Brown's teacher in the cartoons? Because, honestly, that's all I hear when I read your posts.

So what was done to make these people return Aug 31? The rest, to me, is just a wasted opportunity.

Typical BR brilliant reporting. AAC is a collection of leftover schools and some other conference may take some of their members so the rest will fall back into CUSA. Hasn't the AAC already had schools taken? And what happened? They took schools from CUSA, not the other way around. And CUSA is just as much a collection of leftovers that have little in common. You have schools with long histories. You have schools that have never played a single down of FBS level football. You have schools that have been ranked recently. You have schools that are perennial bottom feeders. You have schools from FBS, FCS, CUSA, Sunbelt, WAC, etc.

I don't see much difference in regions between the 2 conferences. Both of them are pretty spread out. But I believe the longest distance between schools is actually on CUSA's side. From UTEP to ODU is about 2000 miles. From UH to UConn is 1700 miles. For us western schools, we have 2 schools in TX, 1 in OK, and 1 in LA. You may throw Memphis in that group as well. Not sure how the divisions will work out in 2015 when all of the schools are added, but that's not too wide of a spread.

Are you not familiar with Bleacher Report? Wasn't Fouts listed in their ranking of FBS stadiums last season?

But here is the problem. You get a green parking pass for season tickets and have to go out of your way to get it.... Then at the end they just let everyone into the lot. What is the point... I also feel sorry for the Kiwanis who helped put it on. Everyone was walking into the stadium and no one was donating. I guess it is the entitled America. It was a fantastic show but I wish people would realize what goes into it and not just expect a free show every year. Adding onto to others.... It was a fantastic opportunity to get people into the stadium and interested in going to game for the environment. I bet we see some decent home crowds this year.

I would have hoped that the athletic department would have coordinated with the Kiwanis to delay the grand finale while they showed a preview video for the up coming season. With this announcement. "And now folks, we pause just before the grand finale to show you what is in store for Mean Green fans at Apogee this fall....we look forward to seeing you all back here on Aug 31st"

....thanks to the Kiwanis. Certainly not anyone else.

A kid wanted to be recruited? I'll be derned, we have a diamond in the rough!