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Ok, where to start... The original post was to talk about 2013 high school recruits that are coming in. Not guys that were ready to compete on the college level while they are currently in high school. They wil have 4 to 5 years to improve for college. If you are one of the best in the state of Texas in high school track, then you are probably one of the tops in the nation. Most of these athletes I mentioned went to the state track meet. Out of thousands of track athletes in the country, they are ranked in the top 10%. That's better than good. OK, the final point of not being close to competitive on the college level...I will take their best times IN HIGH SCHOOL, and see how they stack up against college competition. I will compare their times to the Sun Belt Outdoor Championships. My post stated that they may not be able to run open events, but can become strong leg on the relays. John Shelleci ran a 10.56 this year. No wind. 10.50 Won the Gold in the Sun Belt TFC. 10.56 would have won Bronze and gave UNT 6 extra points. UNT did not even field a 4x100 but the winning time was 40.54. Bronze was 40.75. 4th place was 41.20. Chad Davis's state 4x100 team that placed 3rd at state ran faster with a 41.01. With the winning time being 40.54 athletes that are spliting 10.00 or lower are very competitive. Chad Davis and John Shelleci can split below a 10.00... Darvin Kidsey jumped a 6'9 which ranks amoung the nation's best. 2nd place at the Sun Belt TFC was 6'9. He scores points and possibly medals. in the 4x400, 3:15.76 placed 5th at the Sun Belt TFC. Davis and Fort Bend Bush's best time this year was 3:15.64. They would have beaten 4 college teams at the SBTFC. North Texas 4x400 placed 8th with a time of 3:20.66. They can use all the 48s and 47s they can get. I'm not even sure if all these guys plan on running track, but if these guys are added to the track team and they can build on what they have done in high school, UNT has made a significant improvement in the depth of the team and can surely put together some competitive relays that can lead to a conference championship and possibly something bigger in the future.

Old Dominion has been inundated with football ticket requests - and has raised $2 million in new revenue - as a result of the reallocation of season tickets. ODU received requests for 15,200 season tickets by the April 15 deadline. Although that's nearly 1,100 more than the school had last season, athletic director Wood Selig said it will meet the additional demand. Foreman Field seats 20,066 and has been sold out for all 29 home football games ODU has played. Season tickets are reallocated every four years. ODU raked in $1.5 million more in donations between Jan. 1 and April 15 than in the same time frame last year, an increase officials credit largely to the ticket reallocation. Officials said they believe the increase in donations will be permanent, because fans recognize that if they reduce their giving, they could lose their seats. ODU also will reap an additional $500,000 per year from increased prices for football tickets and luxury suites, said Mark Benson, who heads the school's fundraising foundation. http://hamptonroads.com/2013/05/odu-gets-creative-fill-football-ticket-requests

Amazing what you can find when you surf the YouTube net. I wish we could find something like this of Ronnie Shanklin catching that "called back" touchdown pass against the Arkansas Razorbacks in 1968. Someone may want to tell Mean Joe about this thread featuring film footage of the North Texas freshmen football team versus Texas Tech's frosh team with this footage being a bit over 5 minutes in length. While on the freshmen team at North Texas, Mean Joe wore #72 which (of course) later became #75 when he joined the varsity and then #75 with his Hall of Fame career with the Steelers. So here are excerpts of the 1965 North Texas "Eagles" versus the Texas Tech Picadors (which was the name of their freshmen team) with comments by Texas Tech's Trooper Keeton Huff, if I were a betting man, I'd bet that you know many of the players on both sides of the line. Enjoy...and by the way, check out the final score on the Tech scoreboard toward the end of the video.

I love it. Not a UNT game for me until I hear it.

I'm seriously afraid we might lose this guy to the NJL. National Jumproping League. Good thing they implemented the 2 years of required college rule.

This is the Mean Green football board, right? I feel bad for this guy. He'll regret dropping the ball and losing the opportunity at a great education for the rest of his life. Do we really get our jollies by throwing him further under the bus on a Mean Green Football forum?

Judge with your eyes and see very little. Not everyone wishes to live in Levittown.

I just want to see LSU. And offer JJ my pension if he'll come back.

And we could not get in.....?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/humor/idiots.asp /Types rant about Hispanics outside the Piggly Wiggly and attributes it to Morgan Freeman, Ed Asner and Nicholas Cage

"UNT AD Rick Villareal said Vanderbilt University officials visited our (Apogee) stadium recently because they heard such great things about it. They loved it so much they toured the rest of our facilities (the Mean Green Athletic Village). The Vandy' people said you can't find these kind of facilities at some Southeastern Conference (SEC) schools. That was pretty impressive." L. Travis post & quote from a Mean Green Caravan Get-Together In Plano, TX. _______________________________________________________ University of North Texas Mean Green Athletics Interactive Map of the Mean Green Village & All Our Athletic Facilities plus Student/Athlete Related Venues, Too...... (from the official North Texas Athletics Website) Much of our UNT Mean Green athletics history & legacy shown in vintage & recent photos in most all our athletic venues as seen on the interactive map. (On the interactive map, click Fouts Field for starters & see some great photos of memorable scenes of past years). http://www.meangreen...ome.html#anchor * At the bottom of the page of the above link are all athletic or student-athlete related venues--just click each one of them for a photo tour of each. GMG!

There has been discussion about lack of tradition and fan involvement at the games. In Fly Like an Eagle, there are parts where fans are supposed to chant "Go Green" and "Go White". What would you like to see happen with this "tradition"? (For a video reference to this and other chants that unfortunately aren't necessarily strongly followed, see http://www.meangreensports.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&db_oem_id=1800&id=38547&DB_MENU_ID=&SPSID=586400&SPID=70831&DB_OEM_ID=1800 . If fans would get strongly engaged with these, I think it would liven up the game day experience, IMHO.)

I believe Bill Snyder's Kansas State Wildcats were ranked in the Top 10 when the Mean Green played them in this game last September. A game that was quite close for much of the game with North Texas even making a 4'th quarter bid to pull it out. Many TCU fans all over their tail-gate areas at Amon Carter Stadium were watching this game in a bit of disbelief as reported on this forum were pulling for the Mean Green to pull off the upset against their new Big 12 foe...the KSU Wildcats. (Thanks for the support to our neighbors in Cowtown). Can Mean Green QB Derek Thompson put it all together his senior year like he had it together for the Kansas State game? Most of the key North Texas RB's all returning this Fall, too, along with Purdue transfer RB, ie, Reggie Pegram. Can this team with all the positive new additions put it together like they did during the SBC first year of football operations when the Mean Green went bowling that year? There really are some things to get excited about in this YouTube video about who we have coming back this Fall. Enjoy...

And your are never, ever wrong

Funny, it was just voted most fun & friendliest small town in America. Denton is a real city, not a sterile boring town with a commercialized town square. I'm extremely well traveled and you're wrong. Denton is one of the best cities I've been to, and I grew up in Houston and have been to all of the major cities and lived in quite a few. Denton is EASILY the best in DFW and the next closest isn't even close. I mean. I wouldn't cast stones from a glass house...*cough* Life's too short to live in Dallas *cough*

Impressive # of season tickets. We have had less than 8K in the first 2 years of Apogee COMBINED

So...do we list ODU as yet another school that has surpassed UNT yet?

His point was pretty valid considering there was already a thread about this in the forum where it belongs.

Look at it this way, he could play out his rookie contract in Cleveland and then take his talents to South Beach....or maybe Team Cuban.

I was at the Flower Mound CAC last week. In their "lounge" they have a framed Mean Green jersey #39. I had a brain fart. I can't think of who #39 would have been within the last 13-15 years. I keep thinking Cobbs but he is not from Flower Mound and I think he was #36. Someone help me out? Driving me nuts.

Germaine Dawson wore #39 during his time here. RIP

Another spaced out moment. Cobbs was 43.

Cobbs was 43.

I enjoyed it. Good read and pretty accurate.

I see that nobody likes the funnies around here...

Can't we all just get along? Just water under the bridge? Bygones be bygones? I'm tired of being on the defensive, tired of looking like a jerk and just am ready for football season to begin so the fighting and complaining from all sides--including me--goes away and becomes complaining about poor football performance.

Little d has more character than Palm Beach and Boca Raton could ever aspire to. Little d is young, hip, cool, cultured and those two cities are plastic but also where people go to die or get bitten by sharks. Personally, I think Denton is beautiful.

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They played Joe at linebacker because of his speed. One of my high school students from McKinney played in that game for TT. He said on a play wide, the tight end blindsided Joe, hit him in the chest, and bounced off with Joe making the tackle.

Another possible lefty to the roster. With Vaughns & Taylor that would be 3. I'm probably missing a few players , but last lefty I can recall off top of my head is Kendrick Davis.

Nice find!

Awesome!

Committed to Baylor

I found a 1928 yearbook for only $8.00 at a antique store in Mansfield, Texas. SCORE! http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth60996/

Kicked out of ND for cheating on his finals.

I follow track in the fort bend area and there is some track talent coming from this area for 2013. Jamison justice, fort bend travis, who ran a 48.8 open 400m is coming to unt. The football team also has several 2013 athletes who ran track. Sed Ellis, Chad Davis, darvin kidsey and John schlechi, all competed at the state track meet this year. Sed Ellis anchored the 3a champion 4x2 that broke the record and he also runs the open 200. John schlechi ran the 4x2 at state in 4a. He ran s 10.5 100m no wind this season and won district as a soph in the 100m with a 10.68 Darvin kidsey has high jumped a 6'9 this season and competed at state. Chad Davis won district as a soph in the 400 with a 48.2. Went to state in the 4x1,, 4x2, & 4x4. Top splits are 9.6, 20.5, & 47.9 I know Davis will continue to purse track. Not sure about the others. Some football players want to add weight and do not run track in college. Hopefully the track coaches reach out to these athletes because they can improve the track yeam and a cusa championship can be in reach. They may not be able to put in enough time to run open events, but the should be able to run strong legs on the relays and give tbe unt track team some good depth.

Still an upgrade from the SunBelt.

I'd love to hear Tony Benford ask Latrell Sprewell " who's going to feed your babies ?"

North Texas' long time friend Mr. Perception seems to have followed us to CUSA if you believe these pre-season college football soothsayers. (1) When North Texas once again duplicates our NCAA Division 1 era of Abner Haynes of which he & Leon King "ONLY" (and admirably) integrated the Southwest & Deep South traditionally caucasian NCAA Division 1 schools and whose team went to a Sun Bowl; (2) When North Texas once again duplicates the Mean Joe Greene era whose quality produced record numbers of NFL draft choices including 2 #1's in Denton and with one of those teams that a top ranked Frank Broyles' coached Arkansas Razorbacks team needed some last minute home-cooking to over-turn a Ron Shanklin caught winning touchdown; (3) When North Texas once again duplicates the era of Hayden Fry when in only 6 years he beat schools many in the present Sun Belt still cannot get on their schedules while during the Fry era the Top 20 (now Top 25) rankings barrier was broken by his Mean Green and last count no program in the Sun Belt has done the same since the league's inception; (4) When North Texas once again duplicates a few of Corky Nelson's years particularly one season (1988) when we beat the Texas Longhorns except for 2 terrifically terrible "homer" calls that even embarrassed Longhorn fans were shaking their heads even apologizing to some of us as they left DKR Memorial knowing which team had really won that game along with that same Corky Nelson-coached Mean Green team which went on to beat 2 other Southwest Conference teams; (5) When North Texas once again duplicates Darrell Dickey's 4 bowl teams which got us enormous national publicity (albeit gol' darn it he still left Denton under .500 and with this MG fan who still feels to this day was way too critical of him); Nevertheless, when North Texas duplicates all of the aforementioned it will be then that our old nemises Mr. Perception takes a back seat where it needs to stay for many, many decades. And when our winning pendelum swings back (as it always does) it will be the 5,000,000,000 more population strong geographical footprint in the new Conference-USA which will be the biggest beneficiary of UNT's upcoming winning ways except this time around...before a much larger constituency of UNT students and alums than we ever had in my student days in the 70's and such larger numbers which will more easily fill that palace of a college football stadium located in Denton, Texas, America, between those 2 Texas interstates which former Dallas Cowboy Super Scout Gil Brandt called "a Taj Mahal of a college football stadium." Still the most amazing part concerning these upcoming pre-season college football magazines will be how so many of them will still rank this Fall's NCAA FBS teams and conferences based on last years records never-minding that some of those football programs had very large numbers of graduating seniors. I cannot forget how ULaLa was ranked to finish last in the SBC one year only to see them win it, go to the NO's Bowl and then beat the MWC's San Diego State Aztecs. Uh.......go figure because after all...they were picked to finish last by pre-season prognosticators of that summer preceeding that Rajun Cajun football team's very successful Fall. I think most of us like where we are now much better than where we've been no matter what all these college football scribes and soothsayers are saying now. Bottom Line Is: Conference-USA is depending on North Texas to catch its light'ning in a bottle once again. GMG!

Love those local ties

actually I was not a huge fan of the Dr. B hire.....I thought she was brought in because she was a mid level university person that had no real history of running a major university and would be more inclined to follow along with the policies of a "system" approach (really more like a north Texas system approach) where the majority of the components of the system act as parasites to the main campus.....instead she turned out to have some aspirations of being an actual university president and leading a single main campus of a university system that had other components trying to leech off of that main campus I had no use for her program to give full rides to high school C students and I thought starting a "peace studies" program was a joke at a time when it was clear that garbage degrees were just that degrees with no real use or prospects for a job.....I had no real use for her looking at McKinney and trying to take an old worn out building from them to make yet another useless system center.....but I did like the way she stood up to lee the idiot when he sucked the system from Denton, when he sucked the computing resources from Denton, and when he tried to stick the Denton students with the expense of buying the refurbishing the UCD (which was completely against what the THECB thought was a good decision) and of course all of those things were what got her fired so I admire that she wanted to actually be a university president and I admire that she actually wanted the main campus of the system to be the main campus not the main source of funding for other crap down in dallas proper, but unfortunately that got her fired and her other initiatives that were actually accomplished for Denton were just time wasters and showed a desire to keep down the path of being the collect all university of the metromess and the arts and liberal arts and useless degree factory that 20 year do nothing al hurley had created not all arts and liberal arts degrees are useless especially if properly implemented with a true liberal arts based education model, but the new paradigm of liberal arts being a series of indoctrinations with no room for critical thinking and no real hard math or physical sciences included and worse highly specialized degrees in useless subject fields is killing higher education in the USA.....the engineering programs were all but an after thought under her and suffered greatly with the move to the "research" campus and with the inability of some of them to obtain ABET accreditation in a timely fashion if at all mainly because of a complete and total lack of faculty so overall she was slightly better than expected, but that was coming from a point of view of VERY LOW expectations and after 20 year do nothing al a jackass would have been better and unfortunately temperamental lee the idiot tyrant is already well established as the overlord of the system with complete and unchallenged authority which is why affable retired guy was brought in and then kept on to be president while lee solidified the rape of the Denton campus....now that is pretty much in the bag they can bring in another al hurley type or move some other current lower level do nothing up to replace VLR and all will continue as before.....trudging along as a source of revenue for dallas economic development projects and growth for the sake of growth and being the leading catch all university in the DFW metromess staying several to many many steps behind some other emerging research universities and watching others move on by academically and most likely athletically as well I will say though one place I do differ from more and more on this forum is I am a big fan of Sexytime Pizza Man......has he made mistakes....yes he has.....does he need to work on football scheduling.....yes for sure.....have his coaching hires worked out as planned.....no but overall with everything he deals with on a daily basis from a highly unstable administration with few concrete plans and no real fundraising ability he has done a solid job......if Todge or The Dumpster Fire had worked out he would be Sexytime Pizza Man AD Emeritus at north Texas, but sometimes hires do not go as planned....and I believe he had his hands tied on some other hires like 50 Feet of Attitude and he was hung out to dry by do nothing al right from the start which taught him a thing or two about setting goals in a highly public forum.....but my issues with north Texas are not athletics in nature anyway....too many people on this forum and the forum of other mid-major (and especially lower mid-major) programs want to look at UT or TAMU or Alabama and wonder why the AD does not call the president of the university and say "we are doing this"......well because that only happens at UT, TAMU, OU, Bama Michigam, tOSU and about 8-10 other schools.....the rest take orders from the university president and at north Texas they take orders from the university president handed down by lee the buffoon

Benford'd

This thread will end well.

At this point I will take anyone who is 6ft 9in

Perhaps you could take your advice and only post on facebook and Reddit instead of bothering us?

Please God, no! I want to see him succeed and Cleveland is not the place to do it.

Every agency or administration in the federal government request a larger budget than the year before and seldom get as much as they like. Either way the GOP held house approved these numbers, the Democrat Senate approved it, and the President approved it. So yes, it's his fault. Where does the buck stop?

I follow this guy on twitter. He won state in the 200 and set the taaps state record doing it, his time would have been good for third in the state finals for 5a.

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