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I wish the man and our team success, and in all honesty I would forget all about this year if we just won 20 games next year. But...I've come to learn that miracles don't happen in Mean Green land. We're done for the next several years, at least, as far as men's basketball is concerned. We had our one big shot and blew it about as bad as anyone can blow it.

Twitter- reducing grown men to trying to figure out unintelligible thoughts of college boys. Kinda creepy.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I think it would be nice to not suck at football and basketball in 5 years.

It's interesting that several people have talked about goal setting. I've been doing a lot of reading lately about leadership and what makes for a successful organization. WITHOUT FAIL every book or article tells you that you must have a plan, both short term and long term, and that it must be PUBLIC. That is what you have never seen from this administration...and probably never will. What is our season ticket goal for 2013? 2014? Where do we stand now? Nobody can get that information. How many people are in the MGC? When you hear that membership is up 20% or 30% what does that mean? Anyone remember the first (and last) quarterly meeting? That was the beginning and end of transparency. How can you expect your share holders (us) to buy into a plan that you don't clearly articulate? How can your employees be motivated to go above and beyond when no standard has been PUBLICLY set? Keeping your promotions director, your MGC coordinator, etc answerable to just one man breeds complacency and insular thinking. The usual suspects will inevitably chalk this up to "negativity". All of us should be asking ourselves, though, has our athletic "game plan" produced results comparable to the potential and resources of North Texas that we all love to tout? Has "business as usual" placed us in the position that we seek? I think any 5 year goal (or 1 year goal or 10 year goal) is simply an exercise in futility until a true plan is in place.

I was the Senator at the time who authored most of that bill in 2009. I subsequently was the one who had to battle uphill left and right to get the thing out of committee and to the floor; voted upon; struggled with our then Speaker when the final amended and passed legislation was "lost"; and then played out a waltz with our SGA President at the time to come to terms on the whole ordeal. The piece was never "found", the President took surveys and field studies until his term expired, and the bill that should have been just up and disappeared. The following semester, SGA attempts to wash their hands of the whole ordeal by getting rid of any input on homecoming activities. It was sad, petty, but totally worth it: because for two years I got to witness first-hand the pathetic 'wins' and back-room 'losses' of 'legislating'. I just wished for the LGBT groups I worked with, the outcome had been different. Are you sure the T isn't for Transgender? Because the two are wholly separate.

SGA bill passed by A&M allows religious students to opt out of paying for the LGBT center on campus Yes, the conservative argument probably is "Well, they should fund a Heterosexual support center too" However, there are certain student service fees for things we never use. However, other students might use them. At A&M, a university founded on military and religious values, it's probably a hell of a lot harder to come out of the closet and be proud of who you are without fear of some kind of backlash. This center helps those people, and their supporters do just that. There is a bill in the Texas House that also calls for decreased funding of these centers, saying they lead to "risky behavior". I'm proud to be an alum of UNT, a school that promotes tolerance and fosters a community where people don't feel oppressed and don't fear backlash because of their religious beliefs or sexual orientation and can empower others to do the same. Yes, we had the whole same-sex homecoming court bill in 2009, but that pales in comparison to what the A&M SGA is doing.

You forgot to add that DT is throwing touchdowns while BB learns how to be a D-1 QB

DFW pipeline in full effect.

What about this one ? @____BornSinner: Coach Lundy Is Like A Major Cock Blocker >_<

Who is rooting for Benford's failure? I fail to see any similarity at all in Landry's start with an expansion team and Benford's first year.

I'm counting your woe-is-UNT posts. I think your point will come across after 30 more. Another 100 and the AD might take action. You need to keep spreading them out, too. Kind of like leave-no-child-behind, but with GMG.com threads instead of kids.

I'll be shocked if this actually goes through. If so, it will give me on more reason to dislike that school.

I'd trade every LED display, center-hang scoreboard, re-worked lighting arrangement, sidewalk re-concreting and sound-system upgrade for the one change the Super Pit really needs...

http://www.saturdayedge.com/9989/southern-miss-2013-spring-preview/

I agree with your concern, but in fairness to Thompson, he really didn't have many weapons to work with last year. I think we will have about three or four significant new skill position players who will help any of our QBs look at least a little better.

I won't be surprised. I won't be happy either.

OK , froggy found out about rv being here, dog gone it. We are doomed! Good guess though froggy. The k guy needs to de-program froggy maybe.

"I would also like to know where we stand on membership and season tickets. It would be great if every year they said, "we have X many currently and our goal is Y - and this is what we plan to do to met that goal (and here is how you can help too)." Precisely. This is far more likely to elicit the support they seek than "bitch less...pay more" which is the current mantra.

MGB video: Zach Orr talks about UNT's big day defensively

Sad but true. I'm sure SMU is looking forward to that series beginning in 2014. June Jones figures he can permanently make North Texas a non factor in the metroplex for the foreseeable future with butt lickings that will come out of this series. We will be the laughing stock of the area.

Note that we never have any of our alums on development staff. If you truly want to court the metroplex, why not have staff members from here who know people in the metroplex? Denton is a lost cause and further time spent here is wasted time. If you truly want Denton County go to Lewisville or the Colony, but better yet have people not afraid to cross the county line to promote.

The comments on that article are hilarious.

Not going to happen. For example, women do not have the same levels of testosterone as men.

Coach K went 17-13 in his 1st season @ Duke. Struggled in 2nd & 3rd seasons Reason he was given a longer leash was because of his success at Army . Took a program who was 9-40 in 2 seasons prior to 31-22 the next 2 seasons

Bring about a million & a half if u can

They threw the ball a lot this year. Chumley had 417 yards passing vs Sulper Springs

Damn. Will I ever recover? With morons like you on board, Coach K would have been kicked to the curb after any of those seasons. Of course, this is coming from someone that would arrest you and haul you downtown should you ever consider criticizing him for his work. I can imagine getting pulled over by emmitt and responding in the nature that you yell from the stands at Benford. I mean, how dare we question an officer's performance to his face at the time of an alleged infraction, right? Thank you CMJ for clarifying. I honestly didn't look up his record but knew that he struggled early on.

Looks like I gave GL2Greatness the vapors and made him forget everything he learned getting his MA in Teambuilding. Good. SMU's Carnegie classification was (finally) obtained in 2011 - which is why I did the "almost.".Further, I enjoy making anyone type: ...as SMU. Additionally, UNT is bouncing painfully along the path to RU/VH status along with UTA and UTD. Regardless of the order we make it in, it's nice to know that SMU is, at best, #4 in the metro area. As far as your other numbers, it's nice to have the opportunity to pick one's own data set. For example, you considered research spending, but somehow forgot to mention publications, citations and awards. Considering that some of the most important disciplines don't require billions of dollars in research grants (say, law, humanities, music, etc.), your analysis is, at best, fatally flawed. Perhaps we should go to another measure - UNT produces more research and offers more programs that SMU while charging its students around $35,000 less a year. The fact that UNT is state-funded is minimally important, as state funding only makes up for about a third of the difference. Regardless, I checked your numbers. Final numbers aren't released yet, but the National Science Foundation reports research spending for 2010 was $18.742 million for SMU and $70.398 for UNT. Of course I combined all UNT campuses in that number - SMU's "campuses" in Plano and Taos are in their numbers, too. Back to the topic, I don't want schools like SMU in our conference, mainly because of their poor academic value. Since research spending is the ultimate arbiter of such things, SMU should be in a conference with comparable institutions such as Prairie View A&M, TAMU-Corpus and TAMU-Kingsville.

Well, as many of the more shall we say...ummm apologetic...amongst us will tell you, we are not other FBS programs. And they would be right. We exist in a major metropolitan area, have a very large student and alumni base to draw from...and yet still look to that next panacea to put us on the right track. It was getting out of 1AA. Then it was winning a conference title or making it to a bowl game. Then getting out of Fouts. Then getting out of the Sun Belt. Then....you get the point. What we have never seen, though, is a straightforward "this is where we stand and this is where we want to go" message coming out of the offices on Bonnie Brae. I'm not talking about posting it on the athletics website or even sending out a group email (our preferred form or promotions right now). The "quarterly meeting" idea was ingenious...and then abandoned. If you invited just MGC members to a private meeting and told them "we currently have 6,000* season ticket holders, we want to reach 6,500 by the end of summer" or "attendance of 24,000* would allow us to get out of one of those Iowa games" then I think you'd see not only a stronger effort on the part of many to sell friends/family/strangers on tickets but you'd also see a lot greater faith from many of us. The President doesn't do the State of the Union because he needs an extra speaking engagement. Stock reports aren't sent out to share holders because companies enjoy paying postage. As it stands every inquiry about where we stand in terms of ticket numbers, MGC membership or promotional plans are met with deflection. Why is that? If the numbers aren't impressive what will be accomplished by keeping them a guarded secret. If they ARE impressive even less will be accomplished by keeping that under wraps. I'm of the opinion that a sheltered, unquestioned mode of operations is what is desired...and more importantly, accepted. *These are hypothetical numbers because, well, nobody knows the real ones

Actually he exceeded expectations his first year. His second and third years were seen as pretty much a disaster though. However, that's mostly because he was playing his underclassmen he recruited over the veterans (his first team was a senior laden team).

There should be some unworn suits to be had, 3 if I'm not mistaken. Expect recycled stuff that didn't sell last time : jerseys, warmups, warmups from the Dickey & Dodge era. There may be a few nike items but I doubt many.

Okay, Coach K failed in his first year at Duke.

So we were desperate during JJ's years, because this was a common practice when we were landing transfers.

Yep. I have a loaded M1 carbine next to my nightstand in the bedroom and a Walther P38 in my desk in my office at home. Oh, many years ago I accidentally fired a 7.92mm Mauser through the ceiling of my bedroom at home. Stupid thing to do but accidents happen. I'm glad that accident didn't happen in a classroom. I'm not sure I want some kid with 10 hours of CHL classes to be defending my class from a bad guy.

The ultimate cheater.

Realistic goals: Football - have a winning record at the end of the season. Every year. Basketball - have a winning record at the end of the season. Every year. Achieve these two goals (as a bare minimum), and attendance/recruiting/MGC memberships/donations/etc... will fall into place.

RV make a horrible hire and chosing to stay with him despite the cost only adds to the disaster. Sure it is remotely possible that he can turn it around, however the odds are staggering that he will not. Benford was hired for two main reasons. One, it was thought he could kept the team in tact. Two, he was relativately cheap. The facts that he had never been given that opportunity before and that his main value was supposed to be recruiting not coaching were overlooked. I think most thought that with the talent coming back and like Stephens he talked a good game that he would be a success. It was painfully obvious that he was in over his head beginning with the first game. He IMO should have never finished the season. Everyone thinks that NT could not aford a negotiated buyout. Yet, overlook the fact that basically JJ made twice as much money as Benford. Therefore even paying for the settlement with Benford and hiring a new coach at a similar salary would not be significantly more than JJ would have got. RV went cheap and it is going to cost NT millions to get out of this mess. No matter what you think of Benford, he is now damaged merchandise. His ability to recruit is greatly diminished and his ability to coach is questionable. Betting on Benford for even another year is foolish, it is like keeping Trilli around after he failed. Nothing good is likely to happen and NT fans will mostly desert the program.

Desperate ones like ours? Yes.

#YOLO

In year five, I will be looking forward to year six.

I think you misinterpreted me. I was acknowledging his success and loyalty to UNT.

nothing

Definitely not the most talented team ever. However, definitely proven to compete at a Sun Belt championship level.

I like this thread a lot because we really do need to define SOMETHING that should be attainable for our football and basketball teams. For me, I'd like to see the following: 1.) In football, compete for bowl games that are aligned with our conference. IOW, get to a point where you are winning 8 games or more. 2.) In football, win a CUSA Division title. 3.) In football, get to a point where your recruiting rankings are competitive with all of the upper end non-AQs. 4.) In football, average 25k or more per home game. 5.) in basketball, have in place a coach that can get you close to the top of your divsion each year. 6.) In basketball, make a postseason tournament 5 years from now. 7.) In basketball, average 4k per home game in 5 years Note, that in hoops, most of these were already happening, but I'm looking at what I HOPE will again be possible in 5 years. We have fallen that far abck in just one year. For both, I want to see better names for OOC opponents at Apogee and the Super Pit. That's my realistic list of hopes for where I think we could be in 2018.

i'm sorry, i'm sure this had a point, but i failed to find it. are you saying he did have more than one good season? if you're referring to his first year as being good, then he won 13 regular season games and two in the atlantic sun tourney, 15-18 overall. doing well in your tournament and having a good season aren't the same things, in my opinion.

Can he? Will he? Anything is possible. I don't see it happening, he would have to guide the team to a sweet 16 or better before he breaks even for this toilet bowl season. I'm not sure that would be enough though. First impressions...

I don't like this guy but I wouldn't turn down a foot pic.

Apparently, he wanted to interview but never got the chance. I, mean, really, how could he beat out Tony Benford? Who cared that if Benford did any good this year, he would be getting ready to go home to Lubbock and wear red & black at his alma mater? We really couldn't interview a UNT alum that has actually been a head coach at a university in Texas when you have the chance at a guy who has never been a head coach anywhere to coach your most talented team ever but also graduated from a school in the state that would gladly hire him away if was worth a damn. That's foresight!!

This seems to happen to you on a somewhat regular basis, but only to you...Hmmmmmmmm. Just go read it again (and maybe Dr. Seuss' reply). I'll bet you can figure it out. If not, PM me...happy to help you out. No need to bother the masses who do understand what I mean with the explanation here.