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Show me a kid who didn't sign with a school because of a message board and I'll show you a titty baby with helicopter parents who's already more trouble than he's worth.

Although the post from the Bulldog fan has our bowl record at 1 -5 since 1948, it should be pointed out that we won the Optimist Bowl in 1946 against Pacific (14-13) which was coached by the legendary Amos Alonzo Stagg. One more reason, it seems to me, that Odus Mitchell should probably be considered the best all around football coach in UNT history.<br />A few other Odus Mithell accomplishments include: A two decade head coaching career at UNT, the first coach in Texas (and perhaps in the south} to recruit Black players to a D! program. Winner of the Missouri Valley and a Sun Bowl bid in 1959 and the recruitment of Abner Haynes and Joe Greene, Indeed, the 1968 UNT football team was one of the best in the country(ask Arkansas), and they were mostly Odus Mitchell's recruits.

Since there are only 124 football playing schools, #113 as an SBC school is about as bad as it gets.

Keep in mind, unless it is a new player; all the weights are those at the beginning of last season. I don't know why they don't update them more often, they are bound to have them with all the emphasis on off season conditioning. Few coaching staffs are going to list a newcomer above a returning starter until they have won the spot on the field ether in the Spring, Pre-season or in season. I think McCarney is right in that the great thing is that at least NT has the bodies now, plus a hundred in spring ball and 85 ships given. It is time for McCarney and the team to take a 2001 leap forward this year.

Standards.

12-20 is a lot more important than what fans post on a fan opinion board. Not to mention that other universities have a lot more powerful information to use against this program after this season than some idiot fans' (yes, both you and me) opinions. But, I guess we all like to think we are more important than we really are...

http://www.texasfootball.com/college-news/view/180342 26) Brandin Byrd, RB, North Texas Byrd, a Copperas Cove product, stepped into the starting running back role vacated by the graduation of Lance Dunbar and performed admirably, leading the team with 890 yards and 4 touchdowns on the ground. He Should Be Higher Because If Byrd becomes The Man in the Mean Green offense, it could change everything. The North Texas offense had all sorts of trouble scoring last season, but Byrd was a rare bright spot. If he can have a big senior season, it could mean the difference between an average UNT offense and a great one. He Should Be Lower Because Theres far, far more pressure on the quarterback spot than the running back spot. Byrd can help things along, but in the end, this is going to fall either on last years starter Derek Thompson or on new starter Brock Berglund to jumpstart the stagnant offense. This is never going to be an offense that runs the ball 80 percent of the time, so Byrds opportunities wont be as plentiful as the quarterbacks. #41 Zach Orr One of the most productive defenders in North Texas history, DeSotos own Zach Orr has led the Mean Green in tackles for the past two seasons, with 74 in 2011 and 108 in 2012. He Should Be Higher Because There is absolutely no doubt that Orr is the leader of the North Texas defense. He calls the plays, he commands respect and he is one of only a handful of seniors for the Mean Green defensively in 2013. He Should Be Lower Because The defense aint the problem. Sure, it wasnt great by any stretch 61st in scoring defense, 76th in total defense but as I chronicled last week, the bigger issues for the Mean Green was on the offensive side. Zach Orrs going to do what he does (which is tackle a lot of people), but what the offense does will go a lot farther toward determining how good UNT is in 2013.

He's listed as a senior....wonder if he's a graduate who can play immediately? Pretty good player out of Argyle High. Not sure what he did at Vandy..... http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Brady-Brown-73677

I wish we could track the evolution of what has ruined GMG over the years. SO MANY FACTORS, but never the person reading and internalizing it. Every year, I enjoy hearing new versions of how suddenly the blue cheese has expired and the Twinkies have spoiled.

Nothing against Byrd... but I'm hoping he's our third best back this season.

Chocolate Cream

The practice facility tours itself.

this is like music to my ears... i just hope soon that it's like cleavage to my eyeballs

Check out the post by our very own Lee Moses on that site...pretty funny!

Isaiah Canaan, 6-1, 195, PG/SG, Sr., Murray State This point guard from Murray State has really impressed the writer; so much that he gets two spots in the draft. Maybe this writer is not much of an authority. Back in the 60s, a preseason college football magazine named TCU's kicker as the all-SWC quarterback. Second rounders go to Europe, maybe a D-league. The second round is also known as the witness protection program.

Read: "We're building the offense around Berglund...Derek, we want you looking trim and fit with your clipboard."

It's from the Playboy 1968 All America Team photo. This post has been promoted to an article

"After two years of losing maybe but shouldn't the guy be given time to reconstruct the program?" THIS is the part that upsets us all Harry. Reconstruct? A team that made three straight conference tournament finals? Even if you concede that everyone "overrated" this team, is it really logical to assume that JJ left a Todd Dodge like mess? If I beat and cheat on my wife Do I then get to say "Shouldn't I be given time to reconstruct this marriage?!"

Message board comments may upset some players parents or friends, but it is hard to believe it is any kind of factor in recruiting. A football team that has not had a winning season since 2004 and one of the biggest flops by any basketball program ever and someone actually thinks that a message board is the issue. I wonder if some have every read any other board because they all basically the same relative to fan's responses. Win and they get much better but still far from being the utopia some of you expect. Just prove to me that one player didn't sign with a fb program because of a fan message board. Record, facilities, coaching staff, academics, location, competition, partying, etc.; I just don't see a hostile message board being even a thought among so many more pertinent factors in selecting an University.

Hey, real quick, can you say, "There are no American troops in Baghdad."?

Middle down 5 with 13 minutes to go. Finally getting into the offensive flow.

12-20 is a 169% better winning percentage than 6-37. We've got a looong ways to go before things get ugly.

If this were us and we made one basket in 9 minutes we would be down 30 plus

I think I'll learn my lesson if I am benched until the first dead ball.

You raise some excellent points, and I can certainly appreciate this line of thinking. My concern is that a potential recruit might come across this message board and think, "Wow, after such a disappointing season, I expected more of them to be pissed off. I guess they're just so used to sucking that it isn't even a big deal any more." Based on some posts here, one would think we had been in the middle of a complete and utter rebuilding phase after years of irrelevance heading into this season. In reality, we had been a good team for several years and finally were poised to become a great team on the national stage. I'm so foolishly optimistic that I actually believe that even without Tony Mitchell we have the talent to have a decent season next year and finish near the top of CUSA--with the right leadership. So, honest question: Did some of you honestly see signs from this season that our current coaching incarnation will bounce back next year with a winning season? If you did not see such signs but you still want to see another year or two out of them, then should I assume that you don't believe our players are very good and that realistically no coach could have won with them? Or, third option, do you simply not advocate a coaching change because you know we can't afford it anyway, so it's best not to even publicly discuss it and admit our financial woes?

That is so us...

Ummmm ... why?!

Real shame he was foiled by the worst thing to ever happen to UNT basketball.

It is that time of the yea again... Time for the trashtalk to commence Group Name Go Mean Green Group ID# 118638 Password: unt http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1?tid=844977

...but some are more equal than others... Based on the proposed NBC Sports contract, ESPN can terminate the contract with the unnamed 10 if 2 conference members leave. The contract even breaks them into groups...a group A consisting of Cincinnati, UConn, cougar high, and Temple http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9071683/big-east-media-rights-deal-terminated-two-more-school-exits-according-sources poor ponies

Not even a decade after graduation and I've already lost a couple professors from my finance department. I couldn't believe it when I heard the news about Dr. Roden and this is just as tragic. Someone needs to keep a close watch on Mazahar Siddiqi, Niranjan Tripathy, Shadazar Palkar, and Hicham Benjeloum to ensure their safety.

That should be the dagger... ready to play the MUTS next year...

That kills it. Simply because that wording will scare, at the least, an A and a B to jump and jump soon. Big East is dead, officially, before August.

10-2 run and only down 3 with 12:36 left. Middle is still in it. If they win I will still have them over Memphis. If they lose I guess I will have Memphis moving on.

MTSU down 10 at the under 16 media TO. They need a run soon, or it's gonna start looking grim.

I'd like to hear what the Tulane president has to say about this. Hahaha

I had him for finance in grad school, and we shared a lot of laughs in the classroom and at the games. He was at every game up in the club level. One of my favorite guys from UNT all around. This is a bummer.

Grayshirt?

Yeah, MTSU went very cold. Lucky to only be down 9 at the break.

Not the way you wanted to close out the half if you are Middle. Where did the offense go?

I talked with Skiver earlier today and he said he'd be there. You two should have a good chat.

Rice is too busy acheiving medical breakthroughs to care about their waiters. See, what's funny is that in my desperation to get back to Houston, I've applied to graduate school at UH and been accepted since Rice is mostly undergraduate. Not because of academics, but solely because it's the only other school in Houston. Building a new stadium? Oh, we already did that. You have had to downgrade plans, cost and capacity too for being too overzealous...getting College Gameday, well, there ya go, here's a cookie...the Big East is worse than every conference other than the Sun Belt and travel costs + setting a new conference + lack of name recognition pull away the extremely minute financial gain y'all may get and you better hope UConn and Cincy stay (not likely) or there's no TV contract, the city hall, that's pretty cool, yeah, congrats...she's a Rice alum...coincidence? Rice alum telling UH grads what to do? Hmmm...she's trying to get re-elected and it's really only a rivalry from the UH side, so not really stunning...) It's not really assinine. Look at recruiting in 2012. Lets run through a few of the best classes of 2012... UT...#2 recruiting class translated to a 8-4 season and a bowl win...with a #2 class you'd expect BCS games...including the epic loss to OU... Michigan...#7 recruiting class...another 8-4 season and a bowl loss... The U...#9 recruiting class...7-5... Auburn...#10 recruiting class...3-9...0-8 SEC...Auburn's wins coming over ULM, NMSU and Alabama A&M... Tennessee...#17 recruiting class...5-7, 1-7 SEC... Washington...#21 recruiting class...7-5...lost bowl... Virginia Tech...#22 recruiting class...6-6...won bowl... I think you get the point so far...recruiting is a shitstorm...let's keep going... Let's look at the bottom... Fresno State...#121 recruiting class...9-4 Utah State...#115 recruiting class...11-2 Ball State...#115 recruiting class...8-5 Middle Tennessee...#111 recruiting class...8-4 ULM...#111 recruiting class...8-5 Kent State...#99 recruiting class...11-3 Louisiana Tech...#96 recruiting class...9-3 San Diego State...#97 recruiting class...9-4 ULL...#94 recruiting class...9-4 NIU...#94 recruiting class...12-2, your BCS busting NIU Bottom dwellers in the NCAA last year? Southern Miss...#70 Colorado...#36 Akron...#118 NMSU...#98 Washington...#21 Auburn...#10 UMass...#115 (not really fair, they are transitional) Idaho...#114 Kansas...#74 Illinois...#64 So, a majority of bottom 10ers were in the top/middle pack of the recruiting standings...hmm... Wrong again. In recruiting, you pick your players THAT FIT INTO YOUR SYSTEM. Just because you have a good recruiting class doesn't mean anything. At all. You have Houston alums in Houston...cool...clearly none in Dallas, considering I got questions if we were playing Hawaii when we played in Denton...and that wasn't my point. Not to mention we brought more fans to Houston and had more enthusiasm in your dead atmosphere game day experience...if you grew up in Houston, you'd realize there's a reason that the majority of Houston college students leave to UT, A&M, Tech, UNT, UTA, UTD, SFA, etc. 150k-200k is not true, you have about 220k TOTAL alumni...http://www.uh.edu/alumni/ ...wrong again...seems a little low, maybe it's registered alumni, either UH should probably work on their wording... We have half of your total alumni in DFW alone...most get jobs in DFW, the rest go and make waves in music, business, film, etc... But, come on, this is a proud alum of UH, I guess we are definitely inferior... /myGL2greatness style rant

well Cougar... just hope that no one else leaves the conference... http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9071683/big-east-media-rights-deal-terminated-two-more-school-exits-according-sources

I can live with those reasons. That said I kind of hope middle wins.

I agree with this 100%. If I were recruiting against UNT I would direct the prospect to this site. "These are the alumni, they know their coach best. He will be gone before you ever put on a jersey. If not this year, certainly next year." Think recruiters against SMU don't remind the prospect that Larry Brown is 73 years old and will either be dead or retired in a few years? Recruiting is a dirty business. You should see "Pony Excess" on ESPN's 30 for 30. It killed the SWC. It is not complacency that stops me from posting that kind of stuff, it is the knowledge that there is a lot of potential damage. It would be different if this was a closed board that would only take UNT alums, but it is open to the world. Google "Fire Benford" and this site pops up. I know that this is not going to stop or discourage anyone from their vitriol and I don't need a lecture on how you are going to change things or how prospects never read this stuff.

You know at the beginning of the year, teams were overplaying Tony; but later he was not facing much more than the average center when he is close to the basket. Many teams effectively played him one to one for most of the game. They basically denied him the lob and put backs, but were more than willing for him to get the ball ten feet from the basket. Problem was that Tony generally played for a dunk or a three. If you watch the replays from the last half of the season, you won't see too many teams smothering him like they did earlier.

Give me three competent D1 college players and I'll shut down Russell Westbrook. People really needed to pay attention to what was going on with this team off the ball offensively this year.

This needs to stop.

So...he wants a degree that OU doesn't offer and neither does UNT? We have a ton of grad degrees available. What do they have that we don't? Degree-wise, that is (because I knew where that was going if I didn't add that). I'm pretty sure we would have something that OU doesn't...don't we?