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I think because of the Benford/Brady controversy in Jonesboro that Brady, being the ass he is, is going to come bring the wood tonight and try to humiliate Benford and our team. That said, even if you as a fan gave up attending games, I hope you will at least come out and show appreciation for our seniors. It may also be the last time we see Tony Mitchell playing at the Super Pit. Regardless of what happened this season, the men's basketball team has been the shining beacon of light the past few years as for as the big 3 sports.

We are ranked way too high. UNT is where head coaching careers go to die (especially High School coaches). Poor recruiting possibilities+almost a complete lack of winning history+student apathy+community apathy+2 far better funded FBS athletic departments within 50 miles+ an administration that only wants success if it comes on their terms (see: within their budget framework)= One of the worst jobs in the nation. It is what it is.

No, no...that was in direct response the fact that you're capable of calling an entire generation "stupid" in one thread (this one) and then turning around and, phone or not, mis-spelling a good half dozen words in a 3 sentence paragraph (a paragraph that berates our education system, no less) and then not recognizing the irony/humor in that. If you feel that's not contributing to the conversation...you're absolutely right...but then again, when you've already resolutely made up your mind on every topic discussed here, what really is the point of doing anything short of busting chops?

At least Colbert's honest about being pseudo-news. Meanwhile, MSNBC is barely trustworthy for weather and FOX can't be trusted outside of sports scores.

The funniest thing is that you yourself(from what you post in the pie forum) are a charaicture of the very people that would lead an entire generation to look to the Colbert Report for their everyday news intake.

40% don't know what you're missing.

Good finish to regular season. 53 to 51 with Hyder with 20 pts ad 18 rbs.

More unintentional gold from the Sutter's Mill of GMG.com.

I'd say this has been a true statement for the last 4+ years or so...

Is that not exactly what you did to kick off this little tit-for-tat? Never-the-less...my red-penning your posts seems to have sunk in...you spelled everything correctly in the above response (well...save for "soooooo", but I'm guessing that was to emphasize the extent to which I'm smarter...or you sext a lot and the "o" on your phone just happens to stick sometimes). 20s for only 3 more weeks, by the way. ​As to the crux of your post...what exactly is it that you want me to refute? The idea that taking one's news only from satire programs is foolish? OK...but so too would be ignoring those same programs whose primary end is showing just how ridiculous all the 24 hour news networks are, how they're all un-reliable news-sources and how they've all all-but killed legitimate journalism.

I have come to this forum pretty much since the beginning. I honestly believe that we NT fans are about as down and depressed as I have ever seen here. I remember the excitement in the 80's from moving to 1AA to 1A. After some apathetic times in the 90's, we had the Sun Belt winning streak in FB. Even during the TD years, we had the stadium to get excited about. And, the mens BB program was consistently winning 20+ games. Recently, we finally get the CUSA bid we have all been waiting for, only to see some of the important CUSA teams bolt and get replaced by our former peers (and some that were never even on the radar......UTSA). Our athletic programs need a quick jolt in a major, major way right now. Apathy is setting in again and that is a thing worse than anger IMO. There is still a lot to be proud of as we all know. To me, getting new facilities funded and built is more difficult than hiring the right coaches. The latter can be a quick fix. The former can take a decade or more as we found out. We are also due our share of luck. I feel like the injury Gods have been more than unfair to NT over the last 5 years. Maybe we catch a break and our FB team can overachieve this coming season. This program needs some momentum to build from.....ANY momentum. To the athletes and coaches on our sports teams, we have your back and will be cheering. But, your school needs your full dedication and effort right now. You guys can help kick-start some great things at UNT. We don't expect you to go out and win the CUSA West this coming FB season. Make us proud. Give it your best and please find a way to pull out some wins (5 or 6 would be nice).

Just think, we only have one more game after this.

Finally time to take the sick dog on a "long walk" in the woods.

I've become acquainted with you and it hasn't turned me into a 1950s-era thinking, talking point-regurgitating conservative.

But it's not BS, it happens to be true. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp ".....William (Bill) Ayers was one of the founders of the Weather Underground, a radical leftist organization formed in 1969 by a group of University of Chicago students who split with the campus-run Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) organization because they disagreed with the SDS's peaceful protest tactics against the Vietnam War. From 1970 until 1974, the Weather Underground carried out violent actions against the government, including bombings at NYPD headquarters, the U.S. Capitol building, the Pentagon and a San Francisco police station, while Ayers (and his wife, fellow Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn) went into hiding to evade the FBI. Ayers and his wife participated in some of the early bombings, but criminal charges against them were dropped in 1974 due to illegal evidence-gathering activities by authorities, and in 1980 the couple turned themselves in. Ayers and Dohrn emerged from hiding to become university professors in Chicago; Ayers specialized in education reform and served as an advisor to Chicago mayor Richard Daley, work through which Ayers became acquainted with Barack Obama in 1995. Ayers hosted a meet-the-candidate gathering at his home......" Rick

We can go as far as we want to go.

Realistically, NT is not going to be up there with any Big 12 team and will have hard time to keep from falling far behind the BE conference.. Right now NT has to worry about UTEP, Rice and unfortunately is no lock to stay above the now severed Texas Twins. NT is going to have to be one of the best of CUSA to move up the Texas football chain. It can be done, but chances don't look all that great now.

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The AP/USA Today did not interpret Obama's answer any differently than the "slanted" article. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-12-22-2414012588_x.htm The article also mentions, Not really indicating a change of conviction, but a change of view regarding expediency. Regardless, a "a single time the POTUS has suggested the disarming of all citizens" has been pointed out to you. But you'll deny it, because denial is apparently where you live.

Andrew/skiver/Green_dude, You should know something very important. No matter how ridiculous your posts are in support of the biggest flop in UNT athletics, you will never be as bad as CheckFacts/GL2Greatness. In summary, while considering gmg posting skills, you are still better than her...so you have that going for all of your handles/personalities. Sincerely, The Internet PS--Bitch less

I found it an interesting story. I don't really agree with the gun companies refusing to sell to law enforcement, but I understand their general point. I went to all the agonizing trouble of doing a 10-second Google seaarch because I didn't think what you had said was correct. And it wasn't. And you are still in denial.

No school in America is better suited for Da'Shawn Hand than UNT. The scheme in place is set up for him to become an All-American as a freshman. He will challenge for the Lombardi and Nagurski Award annually here and be able to declare for the NFL Draft after three seasons. UNT has seasoned defensive line coaches, good climate, excellent academics, a new stadium, a thriving nightlife close to campus, and the albino squirrel. It is close enough to Dallas and Fort Worth to stretch out a piece, but far enough away to get the feel of a real college town. Plus, the coeds are hotter than fish grease. In short, UNT lacks nothing that other universities offer and Da'Shawn Hand is wasting his time considering them. He really belongs in Denton for the 2014 - 2016 college football seasons. And, in his heart of hearts, I know he knows this.

Thanks! I can't believe you baked me a cake!

I think that a winning season in CUSA would help us to at least get back on track for recruiting. It will take several winning seasons to get a solid fanbase increase in season tickets and attendance. But I don't think we will ever be able to pass the Big XII/SEC schools in this state, nor do I see us passing the Big East schools in the next 25 years. They have waaaayyyyy too big of a headstart on our program, from a money standpoint and a success standpoint. Everyone knows of the old SWC schools, even little ol' Rice. Our main competition right now is UTEP, a school with some advantages over ours in support and market share, but a huge disadvantage in location of that market. If we can surpass UTEP on this foodchain over the course of the next 5 years, then that would be progress. Maybe that means we have passed RIce, too. But, one thing it should definitely mean is that that UTSA and TX State haven't passed us by. If either of those two newbies pass us by in W/L records over the next 5 years, we should just quit FBS football--I mean it. That would tell me that playing in the Southland Conference again is really the place for this university's football program, if somehow one of those teams from that level of play can move up and pass us by within that short of time. For me, this next 5 years is very important for my fandom here. I need to see something tangible in terms of becoming a winner and helping to sustain that. When a fan like Emmitt, one of the very few that has shown to really care about this place, posts that his conscience has caught up to him about selling the MGC to other alumni due to the lack of results and support by the university, that should tell you a lot. If we turn this around in the next few years--say we get back to .500--and McCarney retired, hypothetically, we had better see the university do something 180 degrees different from what they just did with Johnny Jones replacement. I'm telling you that this anger from the remaining diehards here is not far from becoming apathy within the next few years. If you start losing those of us who have been faithfully following this program over the last 20+ years, only to continue to see mostly bottom of the barrel results, its gonna get ugly. If you are a UNT alum that graduated in 1970 or later, in most of your lifetime, you have seen some of the worst football seasons imagianble, except for 4 of Fry's years here and I guess 4 years of Dickeyball. That's 8 years out of 43 seasons. Not even counting the ridiculous i-aa years that nearly killed what was left of this program, our average w/l record since the black man was allowed to play anywhere he could is a robust 4 wins and 7 losses. Its because of this, that I truly believe that there has never been a fanbase that deserved at least a few years of winning seasons more than this one...

Will be visiting tonight !! Hope we can get a good crowd

Good thoughts, added debate: QB: Ramsey, again the best; no debate. Disagree on Washington and Stephenson. Washington was not at all like McNulty unless McNulty really has a good last three years. Washington was definitely a run first QB while Stephenson was a pass first player. WR Wrs were a loaded position for the Green. Barry Moore was a great possession receiver but Shanklin was the deep threat and focus of the defenses No comparison. RB, also a loaded position; Taylor was a solid rb, kind of like the current Byrd. He did fumble a lot and I would not compare him with many of those nominated. Pegram played on an awful team and took a terrible beating, I think if he played on a better team he would have numbers to match any NT back. DB: I think Smith and Dunlap are being short changed because it is reported they have less votes than some dbs who IMO are inferior to them. DL: Rex Johnson was good but again I think the top 4 should be run away choices. Elliot did have alleged issues at NT, he was at Minnesota I think were he started as a freshmen. The college Elliot unlike the pro Elliot was a very imposing physical athlete with something like 2% body fat. He in fact may have been a little too ripped thus the at least alleged issues.

Neither. but if forced to pick between these 2, LaLa

With the UNT/UNTHSC merger, we'll see a rebranding of the campuses (i.e., UNT at Denton, UNT at Fort Worth). It'd be odd to have the "University of North Texas at Denton School of Public Health" located in Fort Worth. There's no reason UNT can't become the #1 team in North Texas, and the state. Abilene Christian, Boise State, Sam Houston State, TCU, and Utah all became recognized programs after sustaining runs winning against "lesser" teams. In the Southland, Big West, and Sunbelt, UNT has had the opportunity to do the same thing and will again in C-USA.

Don't follow them all that close, but I do beleive they had a lot of issues at QB last year and that this was a big concern going in to the offseason

Unless you want to star in two sports. UNT will let you!

Berglund has just as much potential as this guy and he's already here on scholarship. And as TFLF posted, unless he can rush the passer or stuff the run, he would just be piling on to the position that we already have decent depth at, at least for now. I doubt that he makes UTEP much better than they were last year, unless they too, had a QB last year that couldn't throw an accurate pass more than 10 yards down the field, like we suffered through for 2012. If they did, then maybe they will be a loss instead of a win, but I'm still counting this as very winnable, at least until our team tells me something different once the season gets started.

I can play. Put me down for a medium shirt. Do I pay the fee the day of or how does that work?

I agree that Washington should have been on the list so that people could have a chance to vote for him, but I totally disagree with you and Cooley about his abilities. He was way overrated. To put it in perspective for the new guys on the board, Ken Washington was Hayden Fry's Andrew McNulty. As I said in a previous thread, Joe Stevenson was a better QB than Washington. The best that ever played here were Ramsey, Case, Davis, Maher and Hall. Totally agree with this. Leaving out Silva was a huge oversight. But in the catagory of big oversights, how about Barry Moore being left off completely for wr. Ronnie Shanklin had a pro career, but according to the official stats he never led the team in receptions while he was here (67, 68, 69). Those reception leaders were James Russel (67) and Barry Moore (68-69). Ron Shanklin ended up have a larger total, but that was over three years. Barry Moore (like John Love) only played 2. On the all-time single season receiving record, Barry Moore is #2 and #5. Running Backs. How do you leave off our first ever (68) 1K rusher Leo Taylor? His career totals in rushing were 1672 vs Pegrams 1470. Plus Taylors best year(68) in all-purpose yards was 1652 vs Pegram's 1594. Plus, Taylor was playing on a team that played a D-1 schedule instead of a 1-AA schedule. Elliott was a transfer from a big 10 school (I think Wisconsin). As I recall, he had some issues there and was either kicked out or was asked to leave. He did well in the pros, but I think he had some "issues" there as well. I don't recall him getting into any trouble here. If I had my preferences for the top four, I would much rather see Corbin Montgomery get in the top four than Awasom....along with Greene, Chapman, and Hardeman. Also choosing Chapman over Rex Johnson was a tough call for me. How are they being short changed? They're both on the list. I think Jay Saad (#17 on your program) was an unfortunate omission from the DB list.

Many thanks...would love to see you be able to play...and appreciate the support one way or the other. Very nice of you!

Yes. If you are Woodbridge, VA. DE Da'Shawn Hand, ONLY READ THIS THREAD. Do not navigate to the basketball forum. oh dear, I've said too much.

Oops..typed too fast. Middle Tennessee will NOT win the tournament...look at history.

hey, we have the best neutral site record in the Belt so obviously that means we're gonna roll in Hot Springs

Somewhere nerds of the world are rejoicing!

Bump

I think at some point we will be UNT-Denton, and it could be near. And as to PlummMG's signature: This site is the greatest tool an opposing recruiter could have, especiailly basketball. If I were recruiting against UNT, I would hand the recruit a paper with this site address and say, "Here kid, look at this. You want to be a part of that." I would never lose a recruit to UNT. It is like a family where the parents are divorcing trying to adopt I am not a cheerleader. I just don't air dirty laundry.

"The Google stats should show you the value of choosing a descriptive title name for your new thread. Instead of "New Basketball Commit" it should instead say the players name, where they were at school last and what the news event is. These threads get us a ton of traffic and HOPEFULLY new fans of at least the site. The key term "Arthur Casimiro" brought in an astonishing 1,200 visits from Google.... including one particular poster who is a huge fan of basketball and lives in Granbury (but will remain unnamed) racking up 282 visits on that term alone....." So, what you're saying is we should take the names of 5-star recruits and create posts such as "5-star defensive tackle recruit can start immediately at North Texas." Magic. Why hasn't Coach Mac sneaked a handle and done this already?

I got out of the habit of making Bet threads once it was obvious we were on a fast track to the cellar -- but MTSU is really worth noting. Right now I am seeing them listed as an 11 seed in Bracketology, which would be the highest a Belt rep has gotten since USA got a 10 back in 2008.

Fry never let a few facts get in the way of a great story...just part of the Fry mystique...much like Dandy Don.

+1 I think (and hope) Coach Mac & staff have their Year 3 turnaround which many of us have predicted they would in, uh, Year 3, but we GMG.com sooth-sayers have not always been too accurate in the past, either. GMG!

I wouldn't say student apathy anymore. Only bad student turnout was USA. Students sold out their section versus TSU and ULL and our student section trumps many similar sized schools. Like UH, for example.

I guess UTEP becomes a likely loss now? Don't know how good this kid is but he will probably make the entire UTEP team superstars with our luck.

Big brother is watching.

RIP Fred McCain