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Love me? Can I strut around with my green peacock feathers now? But seriously, when I came on this board nearly five years ago, somebody told me that I would make lifelong friends following UNT athletics. For all the trials, tribulations, losses, crappy uniforms, and arguments we go through, I am so glad I chose UNT for grad school, and I'm thankful for all of you that I've met through this thing we call sports. We fight, we call each other names, we challenge each other, but we all strive for the same thing, and we eat, we drink, we weep in the common cause. I'd have this no other way. Cheers, Mean Green Nation!

Our perpetually "underachieving" ex head coach is up 19 on Miss St and cruising toward 15-8. With "somebody else's players" and BEFORE his top ten recruiting class comes in. Remind me again Andrew, how many top flight recruits are lining up to live our "next year" dream?

Goal to increase ticket sales revenue for all UNT Athletics ticketed sport programs and events Respondent will receive commissions on paid new seat premiums The respondent will hire a staff that is specifically trained in sales and customer relationship management, including a General Manager. Some numbers from RFP: Football Season Tickets 2011 - 4201 (All New) ($1,271,655) 2012 - 3760 (831 New) ($945,810) Renewal rate: 2011- 77% 2012-70% Basketball Season Tickets 2011 - 659 (259 New) ($227,191) 2012 - no data

No. Nobody liked Fry when he left. He's barely welcome back now.

I'm waiting for that token 2nd half meltdown. Found this little gem that seems fitting for the season ...

Alabama Huntsville most recently lost to Christian Brothers ...... Not the automotive place , the college

GMG.COM BASKETBALL GAME!!!! DATE: MARCH 23RD ... TIP OFF AT 10:00AM NEW LOCATION: STRICKLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL GYM - Denton ISD (due to conflicts with all possible gyms on the UNT campus, we are having to move this years game to a new location...direction will follow in a new post within this thread!) Yes, I know...very close to the Flag Football game, but such is the schedule...let's just make this happen and raise some great funds for the UNT CHEER TEAM!!!!! We will once again have a half-court shot contest at half-time, some great silent auction items, a post-game "tailgate" (Looking to have this year's after event at RUDY'S BBQ), and perhaps a tour of the new basketball practice facility for all our participants and spectators alike! BUT, first things first...we need players...so, let's see those sign-ups start ASAP! Player's fee is once again...in spite of inflationary pressures...still ONLY $25.00. All proceeds go to help support UNT's great Cheer Squad! It is going to be even more fun this year! As always, we need players, donors, sponsors, silent auction items and volunteers to help! Let me know what you might like to do to help this year...anything and everything is greatly appreciated...especially as the two events are so close together this year...I am pulling my hair out already! believe me! Ha! All for a great cause...so "good to go"!

Just what we need--strangers who know nothing about North Texas calling us.

I for one am really proud of the guy. He's buying into the system and putting in the work, both academically and athletically.

Colors of the rainbow...

I'll stick with my 4 win prediction, but this wouldn't surprise me one bit. I'll stick with my DT starting over Berglund prediction as well... really don't think Mac will sit the senior down.

Basketball is even worse of you consider percentage of capacity.

That's an absolutely pathetic season ticket # for football.

My money is on Brady.

Instead of jump ropers that last game , let's set up a Steele Cage & let Benford & Brady fight to the death !

We won. I'm very happy. Now Benford has matched Harry Miller's NT win total with 10.

Guys,I am mean green tried and true. However,as a taxpayer, another public law school is the last thing DFW needs. A&M just beat us to the punch. Lets cut our loses,lick our wounds,and move on.

Game is on Time Warner cable ch 185. GMG!

If he could get us back to relevant instead of hysterically pathetic...yes, serious man crush.

Man Crush When a straight man has a "crush" on another man, not sexual but kind of idolizing him.

I'm thinking of making a t-shirt for Hot Springs. Front: SOW logo and "We didn't come here to lose" across the chest. Back: Benford headshot with "Not so fast!" beneath it.

My wife and I think that once the telemarketing company does the market research on NT they are going to come back to the table and demand a bigger cut of each ticket they will sell.

You really spend way too much time over here being an ass, GL2Greatness. How many Pampers has your mommy had to change on you today while on that subject? Must have probably taken you all of an hour to spell all those words (correctly) and in color to boot, but to to get down to the subject at hand and to quote Deep Green's post on this thread......"its only taken them 10 years for them to get going on this" (or something to that affect). Some thought that North Texas' CUSA membership would put a very high-powered microscope on what we've had going on up there for what has now turned into many years and it seems that microscope has already begun its magnification process. Albeit CUSA is a shadow of its former self, it will still be a better deal for North Texas with trips to Houston every other year with more close-in rivals who will have a several thousand traveling fans in many cases--that part will make Game Days at Apogee even more special. The Big East will become old hat in about 2 years, UCONN at SMU will draw about 5,000 (but reported as 18-22,000) and some of those "EX" CUSA schools will say under their respective breaths and damn sure..............NEVER FOR PUBLICATION............"what in the hell have we done here while we keep beating up on each other in football and schools from CUSA, the MWC, etc, keep sending their champion to a BCS Bowl game?" For starters why not shoot for the moon (hell, we're North Texas) and hire the entire UTSA marketing staff to duplicate what a 3 year old start-up program has done in only.........3 years and what our present staff just let out a big yawn to suggest that we will finally start doing? And then just tell that new UNT athletics marketing staff, uh, THIS!.........."we don't care what they say we cannot do in "Little D" or how we've always done it up here so just put that garbage thinking in File 13 or your notebook's Recycle Bin but THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO INSTEAD.....DO WHATEVER IT TAKES (and legal) among our 700,000 plus Denton County'ites to insure that there are 31,000 fans at Apogee Stadium every Game Day weekend in Denton---nothing less than 31,000." (Anyone want to wager now that most of the monies for most the salaries for such a new staff could be found from some (slackers) on the present staff by doing what Dirty Harry said at a political rally last Summer when he said........"if they're not doing their jobs..........you have to let em' go?" (Hey! It's a dog eat dog world out here where I live and I'd just bet it's the same in most of your work a day worlds, too, yet............no one ever came up to me and said..........."Hey PMG, we owe you a lifetime job whether you produce at that job or not." We have some who long ago retired in Denton that are still on the UNT payroll and that would be obvious to those who dare put down the green Kool'ade long enough to admit what even a novice not associated with North Texas would be able to see. I also realize social climbing, some semblance of status and campus politics is important to some on this forum inasmuch as their continued "no response/no demands" to the present group we have at UNT is merely feeding their fire to continue things as is. If UNT alums & Mean Green fans don't ask (or even demand) for a better product, then those at UNT will continue to feel no obligation to produce nothing more than the same ol' status quo; after all, that for years has continued to get some of them contract extensions and pay raises GMG! PS: I think Year 3 for Coach Mac's football program will be OK with 6 or so wins; I just don't know at what national ranking and that needs to be the "new normal" of our thinking process with Mean Green football because it certainly is at USM, La Tech and other outposts.

Exactly. That game just shows how mule stubborn Mac is.

if they were smart they would have hired SoundworkS Sports Tele-Marketing of Weatherford, Texas

Deep, the way I see it if rv's so comfortable this act alone will give him an excuse, an out for failing this year. Now there is someone to blame when there is a Capital Campaign going on & people are supposed to be producing revenue. Now can we see it, the real picture. PS someone needs to get Kram a seeing-eye dog.

After 10 years on the job, maybe he gets it.

Benford has really pushed him to improve his game in practice and it looks like it has paid off.

No doubt in my mind that Jordan Williams is the best player on this team. I've thought it for a while, but wasn't one hundred percent behind it. Now I am. The guy just finds a way to score and get points on the board no matter what. Inside and out. I'll give Tony credit that he is a monster on defense and scared Troy players into avoiding the interior. I just don't see enough offense from him on a game by game basis to say he is the better player on this team. Great win and GMG!

Not that there's anything wrong with that

Bulletin board fodder. Thank you CFN.

Good question.

Interesting. I would describe it as an "attacking" "eagle". And I'd wager they would get what I was saying before the door even closed. Regardless - a logo doesn't really mean anything on its own. It's just a picture. It is the company or in this case school/team that give it its meaning. That simplistic, monochromatic, apple logo is just a chrome apple without the gee whiz products they produce. That simple, monochromatic longhorn is just an orange cow head without the Heisman's, National Championships, etc they've won. We win, at a high level, consistently for years, and whatever we have on our helmets, jerseys, pants, hats etc will be held in high esteem by fans and respected by our foes.

6'5" (that's what he is listed as, which means he is probably 6'3") power forwards usually aren't know for their outside shooting. That said I haven't seen him play, so who knows. Anyone who has seen him care to chime in?

But Dodge DID have six wins by year four!

Actually, I think that they will. From what I read, it won't be another traditional law school. It will incorporate some innovations similar to those mentioned above based on a survey conducted by the associate dean.

Mac will be here for his 4th season I believe no matter what happens this year. If Dodge was given a 4th one after his first 3, no way you don't bring Mac back for his fourth.

I'll hate myself by the end of the season, but I had us winning against Idaho, Tulane, S. Miss, UTEP, and UTSA. That's 5. With a 50-50 shot against Ohio and/or Rice, we should win 6 or 7. Pass the green Kool-ade please. GO MEAN GREEN

To CFN: ...and the horse you rode in on!

We'll find a way to make every Troy player look like they missed the bus to the NBA 3 point contest.

Winning there in 2015 would take care of it.

Looks pretty F'in good on the tail of an F/A-18. Your argument is invalid.

This thread is bouncing all over. $410,000 is nothing for NT to pay to get that crowd pleaser Idaho into Apogee without a return game for some and too much for others. We complain about only having 5 home games in some seasons Yet some want more 1 for 2 games which would result in more 5 game home schedules or NT buying more home games from fc teams or Idaho. Probably one of the best scheduling NT has done is get Iowa for two away guarantee games replacing the top 3 powers NT usually plays in these games. Now some think that should be an 1 and 1 or a 1 for 2 or a game in Arlington. It all goes to demonstrate that you can't come close to satisfying everyone with any feasible schedule. NT has an increased budget due to the student fees and probably a modest increase from conference coffers. That increase is probably already accounted for, it does not mean that NT can jettison the away guarantee game or start signing big name teams to 1 for 1 and have a guaranteed 6 home games. Sure there are examples of big name schools occasionally playing at small venues but it is very rare. The truth is that NT has done will only having one guaranteed game a year. Playing six home games a year consistently is impossible unless NT buys games, nearly always a fc team, which in itself will become more difficult because of the number of programs moving up. All fans complaining about the schedule is not going to change the economic realities of a lower tier football program. NT has a small stadium that it does not sell out and oc scheduling is not going to change much. The best bet is to sign 1 and 1 series with like programs, play one guarantee game a year, and suffer slates with only 1 oc home game about every other year. The alternate is to buy a low cost home game which will give you 6 home games but will also limit the more attractive 1 and 1 series.

New coaches come in every year all around the country. Many struggle at first...because they are taking over lousy rosters. Some get lucky and get good rosters. If Benford had inherited a ULM type of talent and won 9 games I'd think he was doing a good job and setting things up for the future. He's won 9 games with a loaded roster!

Andrew is totally trolling us.

Why does this kid think he can get away with constantly writing negative stuff about the school and running the athletic programs down? It's not like he is an award winning GMG poster.

Interesting. Rick