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Yes, never trust a man who can "research facts". Trust a guy who has two message board handles.

Did he ride up here on the South Alabama men's and women's basketball bus and get dropped off? Seems convenient enough to me.

Meh... he is already bringing in the #6 recruiting class in the nation next year. I think he can be an above average coach

Looks like Brock & Derek have stepped up their twitter game. I hope you are watching , Mcnulty

Luper just commited to TCU.

C-USA doesn't need to expand. As long as we have 12, we should be fine. I'm good with an odd number of members. I think it would be better then further watering down C-USA. Ever time the new C-USA expands, it becomes more like the old Sun Belt. We need to sit tight. I think Tulsa may be the last chess piece on the board for the NBE, and we will finally have some stability. I'd hate to lose Tulsa, but UNT would still be in a good western division with Rice, UTEP, LA Tech, UTSA, and maybe Southern Miss

I get my info from Skiver. He told me while standing at a urinal that Benford can't coach at all. He should know, supposedly he coaches the Algerian national team...or something. Surely you wouldn't argue with...well...yourself.

I'm just glad he's not an old geezer from Iowa St.

GMG tradish: make two handles. Assume no one will catch you and fail miserably, but still Love the Mean Green forever.

Where's CheckFacts to well, check facts?

One game doesn't mean much, but this one gives me hope. I thought all the starters were very good tonight and they had to be with almost no bench. No substitutions by Benford until about the 10 minute mark of the first half, great and the best basketball NT has played all year in that period. Hardwick gets the game ball from me for this game. I hate the slow down with a lead, although it worked tonight. I don't expect anyone is going to mention NT lack of hustle in this game. Girls were tremendous until they got tire of beating up on USA in the last 10 minutes.

PJ is slowly starting to grow on me. Props to both him & Coach Lundy on his steady progression

NT under JJ was a good free throw shooting team, but were they excelled was getting to the line. His teams were almost always close to the top in the nation in the number of free throw attempts.

First UNT substitution came at 10:41 - what a change!

Johnny can recruit extremely well! He runs a well mannered team. He makes players take out earrings at public events. Tie and suit (the whole nine yards). He is not an x's and o's coach. He can you close to the end goal but not quite over the hump. Now that he is in the SEC he can really recruit and the players ability alone can carry him further.

in all reality, if it weren't for the money, Johnny should've stayed here...he's not a big time college coach, not even in a weak SEC

Actually - our FT shooting usually ranked in the top 3rd or so of the country. You'd be stunned how poor the national average is Kram.

If you all don't shoot at least 101% from the line, you should fire him.

Except that grammatically, those two statements are not required to be related, STRICTLY speaking. It says that in order to have a well-regulated militia, you need the right to bear arms. It does not say that you can not have arms unless you are already in a militia. This is one of the arguments that people like to make, ignoring that the Supreme Court already ruled that a militia was the PURPOSE of the right to bear arms, but not a requirement to exercise that right.

Really looking forward to Derek and Brock's competition this offseason.

Fake Tony Benford Ok, which one of you is behind this? Pretty darn funny in my opinion.

All of that sounds very Greek to me...

Skiver are you 14 years old? The only thing you ever say is you have friends that coach or played against UNT players at the Rec.

I never kid about Missouri State.

Coaches were smart to get in on him early. That offer came in the fall. He's a true road grader with a nasty habit of pancaking defenders. He's been starting since his freshman year and made 1st team all-state this year. And for those worried about level of competition, this year alone he saw front 7 players committed to TCU, Texas, Texas A&M, Ohio State, Air Force and Ole Miss.

May the best man win, and then help us beat every team from Texas we play and lead us to a dang bowl game.

More than likely his other handle who he once spent several paragraphs propping up. Personally, I trust that emmitt01 guy. He's pretty knowledgeable...or so I hear. But he's not me, I promise.

The fact you were arguing was free throw shooting. Not too much strategy involved there.

Actually TE is one of NT biggest need positions. They lost the starter and several others. Miller is back and Prior too after a redshirt year, but both are seniors. Marcus Smith was injured and although supposed to be very good has not proven it yet. He, Tanner Smith and Cooper Jones are I think the only ship underclassmen. NT used a lot of multiple te sets last year, and they do need numbers. DL has almost everyone in the rotation returning and lots of bodies. Yes, NT could use a star player on the defensive line; but it is not the need position a lot seem to think. They lost Obi at de and Cantly at dt but return de's McCoy, Mason and Bellazin who played a lot. They have added a good juco and have redshirt freshmen Horton, Watson, and Deluga. Lincoln, Abbe and Boutwell return from the dt rotation and they have 3 freshmen redshirts.

Next step : Win a Road Game

Funny how quickly he became a three star recruit.

Is this guy seriously arguing against facts? That's the thing about facts. They can't be argued. That's why they call them facts. And that's a fact.

Damn, hold a grudge much?

Lee Jackson attended the game tonight - first time this season. Very good defense tonight, got a bit sloppy with some forced turnovers midway through second half. Hardwick played with fire in his belly. Earlier, the ladies crushed a South Alabama team that came in 10-5. Pretty good night to be in the Pit.

2 great wins tonight!

Ain't gonna happen! Well. Easy to say now that the game is over and the Mean Green won by ten! :-)

Once more...and try to get it this time...I am not placing all the blame on the players like you are on Benford. I blame the players for their VERY OBVIOUS role that they play in the way this season is progressing....noticed you did not make tonight's game...hope you watched on line or listened in on the radio...you would have seen what I have been talking about regarding the players. Please show more once where I have ever said this was all the players fault? I can point to plenty who feel it is all Benford's fault. I believe those folks are dead wrong. Is it against some law that I have a difference of opinion? Seems to be around these parts. You missed a very different player effort tonight,...sorry for you.

If we win more, I'll take whatever downside comes with it.

His Grand dad is John David Crow. That's a bunch of Texas ties.

And criticizing the band does not seem to suit you either!

Playing hard on D and rebounding weren't part of the gameplan?

I'll give credit to Benford for getting the squad ready tonight. Gotta give the man credit. But he's still in debt in the goodwill department. Go get us a 5 game win streak or so and I'll think about putting a foot on the bandwagon.

You'll grow to love him more than life itself.

When North Texas didn't even make the SWC meeting agenda for membership in Fry's last few months in Denton, he started looking ASAP for another job for himself and his coaching staff. He wanted to go to bowl games and he also wanted to coach before larger crowds. Some think Fry did all the SWC talk just to garner attention for himself--I am not one of those. UT's Darrell Royal was said to have been one of our strongest supporters for SWC membership, but still there were "4" private schools in that league who may have said "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah with lipservice for UNT membership" but would have voted no,no, no, no in a closed ballot. Honestly, Mean Green 93-98, I cannot add too much more than what Gray Eagle has so elegantly posted above. G.E. won't like me saying this because we tend to agree to disagree on the subject, but (still)...........IMHO.......SMU has never been our friend and never will for those of you who think they are and will be in the sweet by and by. Their Prez' Gerald Turner avoids the subject of North Texas almost as if you were talking to him about a possible outbreak of the bubonic plague with ground zero on his campus. He's SMU all the way insasmuch as he thinks he is President of an Ivy League school which he is not. I don't think SMU's standards are even remotely close to Ivy League standards. Yet as I put myself in SMU's shoes I think I know how I might feel about a large DFW Metroplex public university and now a system that is building campuses (law school, pharmacy school, possible MD school, etc) all around the Hilltop and for anyone to think that SMU'ers haven't noticed all this would be most naive on their part. Still iSMU is a private and UNT a public and I think UNT'ers understand the differences and the missions of the 2 than SMU'ers seem to, but it's still that difference which gives them just enough to look down their noses at us albeit they don't seem to do the same with other public universities of equal or less stature than UNT's. That alone is very telling of their attitude toward us. Don't be completely surprised or shocked if the SMU/UNT home and home football series gets bought out, either. Would that be a final convincer for some of you if that happened? North Texas (as said many times on GMG.com) just needs to take care of North Texas. I think we will all be totally amazed with the results of doing that if we can just put all the right pieces in place up there. From the Abner Haynes Era all the way thru the Fry era, anyone ever notice how many schools we would have like to have played would not schedule North Texas? Many of these very same schools have large margins of wins versus losses over North Texas subsequently because they just would not tee it up with us when they knew we were better and we would have piled up many "L's" on their side of the ledger versus UNT. You have to hand it to all their AD's who were smart enough to know when to play North Texas and when not to play us. Tulsa and TCU are 2 such schools--there are others, of course. Can one only imagine how may more "W's" North Texas could have piled onto many of our all time series records versus many other schools if they had only scheduled us when we were up and they were down? It seems what we have rarely done at North Texas is learn from our past. We take 4 giant steps forward then 6 back. Darrell Dickey's bowl era would have been more significant for UNT and his future career at a higher level if we had only pulled a La Tech back then and just made a Top 25 poll even with "1" of those bowl teams. We did not and then the "go backwards" aspects of our program would begin its cycle again. Mo Green (D.Kalk) told me in the 80's that UNT never has the infra-structure in place to ever go to the next level. We now have the stadium, in the opinion of many the head football coach, but those 2 together are still not enough to advance North Texas and that's is all I'm going to say on the subject. Many of us have seen many schools go past North Texas the past 4 decades and they did it many times while we were operating in the mode such as we've been in the last 10 years or so years.. Whoops! I said I wasn't going to say anymore. GMG!

If we just would ban magazines holding 100 rounds, then all would be swell. Can't kill anybody with those 50 round mags. A guy says he "understands" the 2nd Amendment then argues the position he does. Interesting. 2nd Amendment does't say anything about any style of weapon....what is it that is Understood" I have to wonder. Lots of room for compromise on this issue. Time those that hold the most rigid views on both sides of the issue just get out of te way and let the more sane and rational folks figure this out.

Come on, 90, as much as you want to think so, the players do have some responsibility regarding the way a season plays out...yes, as well as the coach. I find it hard to believe that you have absolved the players from all responsibility. This thing takes everyone...players and coaches to be successful. I find it inane that so many here want to completely excuse the players. Yes, in spite of some, teams do need player leaders...leaders find ways to get the team to finish games...you seen that lately from these guys? Leaders may even call player only meetings to try to right a listing ship. Player leaders often step up and showcase their own skills when things go badly in order to put the team on their own back when needed. We have all seen this stuff at every level. Find a post where I have ever absolved Benford from his share of the responsibility? He has demonstrated that he is indeed a rookie coach. As a rational poster recently mentioned, this situation is a two way street. Time to realize that it does, indeed, take two to tango...and, if this team is to turn this season around, it is going to take leadership from the players to get it done. If these same players return with the same attitude next season...well..you may be right about the impending disaster if so. Me, I think not...I think we will see a much different situation next season. But, I am not going to quit on this team...I'll be there Saturday, as probably you will as well, and I will be looking for signs that this team will see a leader or two emerge to help make a run toward the tournament and success there.

Duh.

And, it's well known that UNT girls ARE cuties.