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So people who don't think like you are discriminatory? From Websters online: Discrimination is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on his or her membership - or perceived membership - in a certain group or category. It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction, influencing the individual's actual behavior towards the group or the group leader, restricting members of one group from opportunities that are available to a group, leading to the exclusion of the individual or entities based on logical or irrational decision making.[1] So you would basically discriminate against the groups you mentioned from their right to push for the causes that they believe in? And punish Chik Fil A for the same? Here is some news for you. The vast majority of Americans are against gay marriage. Does that make them discriminatory toward gays? No. It means they want the definition of marriage protected. Civil Unions? Go for it. But not gay marriage. Of course, that's not good enough for in-your-face organizations like the LGBT, who want everyone to accept their ideas as the new normal, when they are ANYTHING but that. Where is your outrage for groups like the LGBT, who consisently attempt to jam legislation down the throats of a MAJORITY of Americans that don't want that legislation? Where is your outrage for THEIR discrimination? Oh, that's right, they agree with your opinion. The hugely liberal state of California twice passed marriage definition laws. That's California. But organizations like the LGBT won't accept this, and lobby to get the laws overturned. Why? Because they DEMAND that you accept their sexuality. Personally, I wish they would keep their sexuality where most heterosexuals keep it; in the privacy of their own personal life. But NOOOOOOOOO... There is an agenda to be pushed!!!

I just sent a brief email to Dr. Rawlins in support of free speech, freedom of expression and support for Chick-fil-A to remain on campus. It riles me that some people/groups preach tolerance, while at the same time, being intolerant of others opinion. I suppose as long as we all think the same, it's "tolerance." But don't you dare disagree or you're a bigot/racist. O.K. Fire away, but GEAUX MEAN GREEN!

I am new to GOMEANGREEN and look forward to talking sports with you kids. My wife and I both went to UNT and we live in Denton still. Currently, I am starting my last semester in grad school at TCU. It has been great there, but UNT and Denton is where my heart is. Too many frat boys and rich tools at TCU. I am covered in tattoos and those TCU kids do not know what to think of me. The football and baseball team are the best things about that school and I have had fun watching them play. When I am done there I have recieved a scholarship to continue my graduate studies at UNT in the spring, and I can not wait. I worked at Lucky Lou's for three years and have managed Rubber Gloves for about 6 years. So, I am sure I have either gotten most of you drunk or been drunk with you guys. I believe UNT will go 7 and 5 this year and I am looking forward to going to watch them win whatever bowl they go to. Does that sound crazy? Also, why does UNT not have any of those rubber braclets? They could make a killing of them. I know I would buy a few. See you cats later.

Is this really a liberal or conservative thing or is just two relatively small sects of varying dumbassery catching us all in the crossfire?

Thankfully, after the 1960s, people pretty much began to ignore college students again. Also, unless the terms of the contact between Chik-Fil-A and UNT have some sort of clause in there about where Chik-Fil-A donates money, it's a non-issue. Chik-Fil-A follows the law in hiring, managing, and blah-blah-blah, so let the 463 students stupid enough to sign the petition whine. It's the American right to whine about what other people do with their own, private money. We should change the name of the country to the United States of People Who Are Overly Concerned By What Other People Do With Their Own Money.

Would you be willing to wear a Scarlet $ on your chest? Ya know... just so the more important fans can distinguish themselves from bottom feeders? THEN EVERYBODY WINS!

For the record, I gave less because I could. It makes much more sense for me to put extra to pay off my house than it does to give extra right now. I feel no shame in taking advantage of a program that is extended to all grads for 5 yrs post graduation. If any of you don't like it then feel free to pay my mortgage for me and I will give more. I go to games, events, I give, Ipurchase bricks, coins, merchandise, and participate anywhere I can. I play chief recruiter at my office, and brings people to games with me. Giving $10,000 and bitching non-stop doesn't help the program as much as giving $100 and being a public champion for the MEAN GREEN! Some of you guys have piss poor attitudes about everyting. If you are saying "is this dude talking to me?" then YES I'm talking to you. GMG

Interesting that I see a lot of complaints on the board about North Texas having to play top 10 teams, yet Tulsa makes it a goal to play a top 10 team each year. Not saying I necessarily have a strong preference either way, it's just interesting.

KRAM, I agree with you on a lot of things, but this isn't one of them. We have NEVER had a marque opponent play in a stadium on the UNT campus. We were told Apogee would change that (or at least the inference definitely wasn't discouraged). It was terrible planning to have only 5 home games in the 2nd season of Apogee, with the only OOC being a FCS school. Horrible. And that is on the athletic department. Tulsa is able to get a 2 for ! from freaking OU, while we give games away to Iowa??? Surely you can see the difference between those 2 programs (Iowa and OU). Yet we give games away to the lesser program while Tulsa gets a home game from OU? You want better attendance? Play someone at home (where you might actually have a chance for an upset) that matters on the national stage. ULM has done it, UCF has done it (scheduled freaking UT for their stadium opening), yet we are supposed to be happy with freaking Houston and a pathetic Indiana? New conference should equal new standards. Not seeing it from the athletic department in scheduling. Hopefully, by some major miracle, there is a change.

Anyone want to guess what a SEC team wants in the way of guaranteed money to play at Apogee? Well, it's in the $250,000-$300,000 range. Pretty big risk when the fans have not shown the willingness to buy season tickets, join the Mean green Club or to fill Apogee. Sure, some will say...well, schedule that SEC team and "we will come". Me, if I am AD I don't do that for a one-off game to satisfy the "bandwagon" folks and get them to one one and done never to be seen again. cannot build a program on those level of "fans"...and UNT seems to have plenty that fit that bill. UNT needs folks like TCU has that will come out and fill the stadium even for a TSU. Cannot build a program with fans "who know everything" yet won't buy tickets or donate to the program unless a long list of "pure stuff" takes place first. RV said last night, for the folks attending the Kickoff-Cookout, that he wasn't thrilled with the schedule this year either and that we won't see that again....really nice of him to talk about that and acknowledge the situation to those in attendance. Did hear from a source that UNT was trying to schedule several opponents for this year at Apogee, but conference realignment issues and money issues came into play that hurt in several instances. I'll take his word for that...I do know that schedules...made years in advance, do have a way of changing as the actual dates get closer.....the fans who care will get through this season's schedule showing their support for the Mean Green and look forward to "bigger and better" in year's to come...bottom line...even TCU schedule such as Grambling and they can fill the stadium...the sky is not falling over the Mean Green nation.

This weekend I was in Bonham TX and saw some mean green candy at wal mart. I know it's a small thing, but thought it was prett cool. Def bought some. Also while at old navy in fairview I noticed they had a football poster on the front window. I was impressed!

ULM is in MUCH worse shape than we are, yet they managed to get it done. Fix the schedule. I'm tried of excuses, and I'm not a moaner and complainer.

2-3 zone around the fridge?

This reminds me of a quote I recently recalled by William F. Buckley....I quote..."Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views". That pretty much sums it up I would say.....

I look at that as a pre-season poll. And quite honestly I think you are over-ranked.

TSU is a great university.....................................................FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!!''

Wow. Tulsa brings OU 2 hours east to play a 2 for 1, and we sell games to Iowa. Scheduling really, really, really needs to be upgraded. We have been screwing the pooch over and over again in this area. BY FAR the weakest point of the athletic department.

Wait... Is Skiver implying he's starving to death??? Is he being held hostage???

http://www.meangreen...TCLID=205625751 GO MEAN GREEN !!!

Shower?

What world or alternative universe are you living in these days????? We have Mean Green so-called fans who can find something to complain about at every turn.....wrinkled $100 bills and all.

YOU JUST LOST A LISTENER!!

Chicken Sammich, anyone?

Did you copy and paste that from PonyFans.com?

Anybody else remember this from last year? http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/id/7059438/angry-gary-patterson-tcu-horned-frogs-not-helping-smu-mustangs-again We should have capitalized on this. We talk all the time about how we don't have any kind of rivalry of any substance with anyone and about how sweet it would be for the Big East to collapse right after the ponies move and for them to have to come back to CUSA begging to get in. Ricky V and Mac should have gotten on the horn with Patterson and said "Hey, feel screwed over by SMU? Well have we got some stories to share..." Channel the frustration and resentment towards SMU into establishing an annual game between us and TCU. Make the trophy a Golden Traffic Cone or something in honor of the construction on I-35W. Just a thought...

all i asked was that they not spill their beer on me from way up in the nosebleeds while wearing monopoly man attire. I noticed a few of their dates were in Mrs. Peacock from the Clue movie outfits... but their lifestyle and spending/donating habits are totally cool with me as long as they consider sending down Yvette a couple times a game with a tray of cold one's.

/thread re-hijacked.

That is a good question. They were supposed to come a few months ago but they had a tour bus problem I believe. When I book them again I will tell you on here. I hope it is soon. Those guys are greatness.

The irony here is that this time last year posters were accusing Grant.UNT of wearing a monocle in his club seats. Grant is a great Mean Green supporter and we need more like him. He constantly sells others on our product.

that's a clown question, bro.

It was a good scrimmage. Offense won early and D won late. Offense wasn't very consistent, but they broke some nice TD plays before the D got warmed up. D was very consistent once they got settled in. Very surprised and happy about the secondary; they played well. The whole D played solid and as a unit. The O was off on it's timing, which made them inconsistent, but that can be corrected. I'd say the O looked rusty and the D looked more polished. That is good news; in seasons past the O looked great in these early scrimmages and that didn't bode well for the D. Instead, in this scrimmage the D looked good and the O was just a bit off (it's all about timing).

Good points Emmitt but they make little difference to most on this board. By the way Emmitt, I wonder how many on this board are working in the capital campaign about to start. They certainly work this board to the excess most of the time. Giving any time to the UNT for the Capital Campaign would make much more difference than their shallow views on this board.

Apparently the definition of intolerance is when someone has a different opinion than you do.

Interesting that you throw out SEC teams as your straw man KRAM. Of course getting Florida, Tennessee or even LSU to Apogee is a major stretch...but nobody is begging for that extreme. Where is Tech, Baylor, Ok State or even TCU in this discussion? Would a Wake Forest, Conneticut, Illinois or Washington like a trip into Texas? All of these seem like phone calls you gotta at least make. And,yes, Indiana was a Great OOC opponent. Patting RV on the back for acknowledging this dreadful schedule is like my wife acknowledging that I was up front about my mistress. Neither is gonna entice people to stay on board for the long haul. Do you eve ask yourself how we're the only team around that can't line up the attractive home and homes? Does our phone not dial the numbers that UTSA, SMU, UCF, TULSA or TCU's do? Or do we give a free pass because we acknowledge our poor OOCschedule that I have still not heard one word about promotions for?

I don't want to schedule SEC teams. Give me a schedule full of teams that we have a chance at beating all day. That's how Boise got to where it is. Once we get to that point where we're clobbering the Idahos of the world then we'll move up the scheduling rungs

It really is, top to bottom. That support CFA day thing was silly. I don't think God wants us to voice our opinions by buying a chicken sandwich. That day's counterpart day was just as silly, too. Everyone who got involved with this mess is silly, and the only people who got anything out of it were CFA's shareholders. I don't agree with CFA's stance, but booting them from campus means they'll just buy a spot near campus. Won't fix anything at all.

Can't we just shake some hands and owe some favors to make this go away?

Where are you getting $250-$300 for games from? Schools regularly pay $700+ for one shot OOC games. Didn't we drop a $600 gig to get these $800 payouts from LSU?

I like the idea. I bet if you set it up on Ebay, you could get everyone to pay you with Paypal and just send the percentage you want to give to the charity directly to them.

I completely agree but it does seem like the left is going extreme left, the right is going extreme right with very few people in the middle crossing the line either way.

10 years from now when Im 35, Im sure I wont be freaking out after what some freshman- sophmore tweets or says... Thats not me

So in summation, posters on this board are making fun of posters on different board making fun of the posters on this board. Both groups slap each other on the back and act smug. Both groups hate the "other guys" for smacking each other on the back and acting smug. Is it football basketball TAILGATING season yet?

No. My argument is with the science. That is exactly WHY I have a problem with the government action on the science. You accept as reality the premise of Man-Made global warming. I don't. As a result of our individual beliefs, we have differing opinions on government action or lack thereof. If it makes you feel better to classify folks who disagree with your conclusions as irrational, I guess that's your right, but rather close minded. This is a forum, not a thesis. I don't always have every article, book, website or forum I've read at my finger tips. ...though for this thread, I've posted images, links, etc for some things. Others, anyone can find if they want to use google. Frankly, I don't have the time or inclination to provide a bibliography in every thread I post in. ...and some things don't need a reference. Asking for a source that the major organizations on the spearhead of the Enviornmental movement are Obama/Dem backers? Really? Great Thread!!

I can't see why that would ever be considered a solution. That's just me. But considering how radical his boss' views are on abortion, in which he voted three separate times for legislation that would legalize a form of infanticide, I think Holdren fits the bill and certainly believed in such a concept. Of course he denies it now, I wouldn't expect anything else.? Rick

KEEP RUNNING! "The Cooling World" Newsweek April 28, 1975 ..."Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality...." Rick

RUN FOR YOUR LIVE'S! IT'S "ANOTHER ICE AGE". TIME MAGAZINE, June 24, 1974 ...." As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age. Telltale signs are everywhere —from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest.Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F. Although that figure is at best an estimate, it is supported by other convincing data. When Climatologist George J. Kukla of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory and his wife Helena analyzed satellite weather data for the Northern Hemisphere, they found that the area of the ice and snow cover had suddenly increased by 12% in 1971 and the increase has persisted ever since. Areas of Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, for example, were once totally free of any snow in summer; now they are covered year round. Scientists have found other indications of global cooling. For one thing there has been a noticeable expansion of the great belt of dry, high-altitude polar winds —the so-called circumpolar vortex—that sweep from west to east around the top and bottom of the world. Indeed it is the widening of this cap of cold air that is the immediate cause of Africa's drought. By blocking moisture-bearing equatorial winds and preventing them from bringing rainfall to the parched sub-Sahara region, as well as other drought-ridden areas stretching all the way from Central America to the Middle East and India, the polar winds have in effect caused the Sahara and other deserts to reach farther to the south. Paradoxically, the same vortex has created quite different weather quirks in the U.S. and other temperate zones. As the winds swirl around the globe, their southerly portions undulate like the bottom of a skirt. Cold air is pulled down across the Western U.S. and warm air is swept up to the Northeast. The collision of air masses of widely differing temperatures and humidity can create violent storms—the Midwest's recent rash of disastrous tornadoes, for example. Sunspot Cycle. The changing weather is apparently connected with differences in the amount of energy that the earth's surface receives from the sun. Changes in the earth's tilt and distance from the sun could, for instance, significantly increase or decrease the amount of solar radiation falling on either hemisphere—thereby altering the earth's climate. Some observers have tried to connect the eleven-year sunspot cycle with climate patterns, but have so far been unable to provide a satisfactory explanation of how the cycle might be involved. Man, too, may be somewhat responsible for the cooling trend. The University of Wisconsin's Reid A. Bryson and other climatologists suggest that dust and other particles released into the atmosphere as a result of farming and fuel burning may be blocking more and more sunlight from reaching and heating the surface of the earth. Climatic Balance. Some scientists like Donald Oilman, chief of the National Weather Service's long-range-prediction group, think that the cooling trend may be only temporary. But all agree that vastly more information is needed about the major influences on the earth's climate. Indeed, it is to gain such knowledge that 38 ships and 13 aircraft, carrying scientists from almost 70 nations, are now assembling in the Atlantic and elsewhere for a massive 100-day study of the effects of the tropical seas and atmosphere on worldwide weather. The study itself is only part of an international scientific effort known acronymically as GARP (for Global Atmospheric Research Program). Whatever the cause of the cooling trend, its effects could be extremely serious, if not catastrophic. Scientists figure that only a 1% decrease in the amount of sunlight hitting the earth's surface could tip the climatic balance, and cool the planet enough to send it sliding down the road to another ice age within only a few hundred years...." Rick

It's not my intention to be negative, but I've found Jessica difficult to reach. I wanted to join the MGC through payroll deduction and she never called me back. I finally gave up and mailed them a check.

According to the constitution, only the people may empower Government. My concern is that data is manipulated and the issue overblown to drive people to further empower Government. My concern is that the desired outcome (which is now heavily invested in both from a political and credibility standpoint) is pre-set and thus the data is being worked over to ensure that result is achieved. It isn't just about regulation, but the cost of simply living and doing business. Cap and Trade would literally cause another recession and could easily cost the average family TWICE the current cost for energy. ...and it is the empowerment of the Government that has led to huge Government investment in alternative energies that are not cost-effective or as efficient such as solar, wind & bio fuels. This Government preference artificially puts other potential sources at a competitive dis-advantage. Regulation is fine. Don't dump nuclear waste in the ocean. I'm down. Don't paint cars without a paint booth. Yup, I'm down. ...but when the government starts telling people what kind of toilet to buy and what kind of light bulb to buy, I think that's a bit invasive.