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Young Alums can actually purchase in sections 103, 104, 106, 107, 206 & 208 on the alumni side at Young Alumn section pricing ($105/seat). I think that was a secret last year (I was smart enough to ask though) but this year it appears to be a listed benefit. Recent Grads willing to donate their extremely limited, and sometimes non-existent (i.e. me), money to the program does a hell of a lot more for the program than bithcing on the Internet about pdfs, trips to Walmart and 1988. GMG

I say 5-7

Hey man. I'm here to share a link and whatnot. bstnsportsfan3 and I decided to have ourselves a bit of a chat . We recorded it. You can listen to it. LINK Enjoy.

U mad? The athletic dept. is doing young graduates a solid by getting them in the habit of donating while making a connection with that person for at least the next 4 years. So if I have this right: Give away end zone tickets... Good. Give discounts to club members and recent grads (who by the way are funding the stadium)... Bad.

I will go with Long Snapper Blake Dunham

Dr. Seuss: shall we put you down for Cam Feldt?

Was he?

This is my first post after visiting for a few weeks. I feel the need to take you youngsters back to the last three seasons of my time at what was then NTSU: 1966 - last year for Odus Mitchell, the Eagles went 8-2 with wins over New Mexico State and Texas Western (now UTEP), but losing to nemesis Tulsa and Wichita. 1967 - first year under Rod Rust, they went 7-1-1, falling to Memphis the last game of the season, with a tie with NM State, and wins over Colorado State and Tulsa. 1968 - they went 8-2 with upset loss to Memphis and losing to Arkansas 15-17, and wins over NM State, Colorado State, Tulsa, and UTEP That is a three-year record of 23-5-1, with Joe Greene named All-American, two MVC championships, the birth of the Mean Green, and capacity crowds at (pre-expansion) Fouts Field.

I was very tempted to go with a freshmen wide receiver, but was not sure who to take in order to be sure not to be stuck with a redshirt... so I'll adopt Cyril Lemon also I would like to add that I am very happy with this choice... i am on the 3rd page with my adoption and still get a player that will be all sun belt this year... very nice

The road to Cantly goes through ME! I have adopted him for the last two seasons and want him AGAIN. I suffered through the maturing process and his injuries, and now that he's poised to kick ass on a big-time basis you want to take him away. Shame on you!

To most fans, outside of the few thousand hard-core fans we had back then, the reality of that time was that North Texas only won because they played in the Sun Belt, which has always been looked at as being FCS-like. During that timeframe, our teams for 2002-2003, though, were very good--and I think they should be the ones that we hold up in high regard. That 2001 team, pulled off a miracle, but it wasn't a legitimate bowl team. The other three were legit, though, for sure. The 2002-2003 teams didn't look out of place against anyone, including Texas, TCU, Baylor, Cincy, etc...We really killed ourselves in that bowl game against Memphis or we would have been two-time champs. The real issue for UNT is that you couldn't sustain anything from those two years with the funding and support that the school gave to the program. Literally, if the students hadn't passed the stadium fee for Apogee, I truly believe that we would have been back at the FCS level in due time. We had the worst stadium in all of college football, among the very lowest in salaries for coaching staffs in college football, and played in the worst conference (perception-wise). Imagine if we played in Fouts still today? We would be in an SBC without FIU and probably MTSU, while we would be watching UTSA go to CUSA. We would hear people "celebrating" the fact that Texas State would be in our conference now, so we would be getting our oldest "rival" back. We would probably have Chico as head coach, which is no knock on him, but it would be because he wouldn't cost much. Thankfully, today, we have seen progress that has given us a huge bump in realistic hope for our future. We are funding a program that is at least in the neighborhood of where we should be today as a big university in Texas, while moving up to a conference that people have heard of and has teams that actually have been ranked before...how amazing that will be the first time an SBC team pulls that off!! Coach Mac is doing it right, building for the long-term. I actually expect that we could see a step back this year, just because the schedule is much tougher this year than last year in OOC. But we have to give him time to build this up to a place where our lines are deeper and bigger, so as to compete against CUSA teams. I think that Years 3 and 4 of Coach Mac's tenure are going to be great years for our program, even as we move to CUSA's tougher competition. That's why I agree that Coach Mac is right to shoot much higher than anything that has been "glorified" in Denton in the last 35 years.

Andrew "MAX" Power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3zdkmw2E4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDA-SAwz2VQ&feature=related

Jimmerson will be featured and rushes for 1000 yards this season.

But...but...letting in young (probably broke) alumni ruins my exclusivity! Keep in mind that the new alumni section isn't the best in Apogee. It's over kinda sandwiched between students and visiting fans. If they want property alumni side or club seats, they've got to pay like everyone else with what ends up a small discount in overall expenditures. As for letting them in the mean green room at basketball games, I simply don't see the problem. Then again, screw 'em. I remember that particular young alum over there drinking beer on a couch once. He should be banned for life. Jesus. We have dire need for butts in the seats, but only if they pass muster to get through the velvet rope! And they better have the hand signals down, dammit!

I'd rather have them than Texas Southern

It has become a fun yearly tradition for Mean Green faithful to chose one of their favorite players on the team and "adopt" them as their player-to-watch. Weekly update threads are formed after each game to brag on your boy's statistics, or that jaw-dropping play he made or was in on. Here is a link to the roster. http://www.meangreen...=562&SPSID=9053 Take a look-see and chose the guy you want to adopt. It doesn't matter who: It could be a guy you think is going to be all-conference, a sleeper that you think will surprise everyone, a freshman that you expect to blow up, or some just choose out of pity's sake. Make your picks here. With the first pick in the first round, MeanGreenTexan selects: Zachary Orr. MLB. Bust some heads Zach! Edit* Here is the updated list of who has adopted whom: (Alphabetically by player's last name) Will Atterberry NTSUEagle Ryan Boutwell DT 90 Brandin Byrd Quoner Tevin Cantly EagleMBA Brelan Chancellor cdizzle86 Devante Davis ntmeangreen11 Ivan Delgado cl_1_2008 Blake Dunham Green59 Coleman Feeley YIPYKIA Mustafa Haboul Harry Carlos Harris meangreenacct Antoine Jimmerson glick1980 Cyril Lemon outoftown Daryl Mason cwb Brandon "Sarge" McCoy FireFightnRick Dylan McDorman pastorgrant K.C. Obi Side Show Joe Zachary Orr MeanGreenTexan Jeremy Phillips Mean Green 93-98 Andrew Power Green P1 Chaz Sampson mgfan Darnell Smith Censored by Laurie Marcus Smith Dr. Suess Derrick Teegarden NTGabe15 Derek Thompson meangreenfreak Marcus Trice adman Sir Calvin Wallace UNTstormchaser Zac Whitfield All About UNT Will Wright Marty

For this season, I decided to build my own Cornhole boards to add to the tailgaiting activities. It was a fun project to work on with my boys during the evenings when it wasn't 105 degrees. I actually scored the logos from the athletic department when I told them what I was planning to do. Another friend of mine has a sticker machine and made the stencils so I could paint on the logos. I went a little over the top with some green LED hole lights. I am now working on building and painting some 'can stands' for each board to hold some beverages...

Craig had a good game. He had a few tackles and an INT that was overturned on a penalty.

Tea and crumpets, shall we? We can toss the crumbs to the peasants down below.

I doubt you have to wait a couple games.

I'll take the co-eds in the tight white oxford shirts, mini-skirts and cowboy boots walking around the tailgate area before the games. I know it will be tough, but I'll try to find some time to see how they are doing...tough that it might be, and I'll report back....those are the real "players" that come out on game day! And, this because "you know who" beat me to the punch in selecting this year's deep snapper as my adopted player. That's what being late to the party will get you!

Have we offered yet?

Mosquitos = death panels. Very clever, Obama.

I'll take #93 Brandon "The Real" McCoy to bring down the house this fall.Rick

Taking donations to feed DT 90.

And here I thought this was some new children's book.

Eric Capper posted yesterday on his Twitter that Craig is in the 2-deep at this point.

I think the sticking point here is Grant.UNT's comment that he was donating last year at the $500 level, but then found out about the young alum program and decreased his gift significantly for the same benefit he was willing to pay more for last year. Honestly, this made me do a double-take as well. I certainly have no idea what his circumstances are, so there's no way I can say "That is wrong." Maybe his financial situation changed from last year? That's his business not mine. I certainly still qualify for this loophole as my wife graduated in 2010. But we give more because we want to and it still fits in our budget... Not for the benefits. For those of you out there who recently graduated and are still schlepping at entry-level positions, taking your lumps before you make your move up the ladder to the corner office; PLEASE TAKE ADVANTAGE of the young alumni giving program. It's really not too much per month (you can break your gift down into 5-month installments), and you can proudly say you're a Mean Green Club member and you are part of the University's climb to athletic dominance where one day Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, et.al., will be begging us to let them in our conference. It really shouldn't matter what perks you get... unless you're in the "wheel club" or something... just give what you can.

So glad I have club seats so I don't have to deal with these young, riff-raffity grads. For that matter, so I don't have to deal with most of you riff-raffity fans that are so obviously below my social level. I'm off to build my survival bunker now...

Can't get enough Mean Green talk. Thanks.

From what I read, there is one thing that concerns me. Rawlins nor the head of the Health Center had been an integral part of the decision to place this on the agenda. This is not the kind of communication you would expect from the top three administrators. I am afraid this is the type of decision making that led to the resignation of our last president.

Anyone else getting tired of the "former Missouri signee bla bla bla bla" every time Tony Mitchell is mentioned?

UH has no medical school....they have Optometry and Pharmacy the TTU medical school has always been seperate and the full 4 year medical school in El Paso is under the Lubbock medical school, but they are looking at making it seperate as well.....the TTU Pharmacy program is under the medical school and is in Amarillo and has now expanded ot Abilene as well....the nursing program at TTU is also under the medical school and is in Lubbock and Odessa and possibly Amarillo in the future the TTUHSC research is not counted towards the NRUF requirements it is stand alone if the two north Texas schools were combined they would have about 40 million in restricted research with a needed goal of 45 million.....that is 14,476,509 for the university in actual restricted research and 26,236,587 in federal research for the HSC.....not all federal research will count as restricted research and there MAY be a very small portion of state, institutional, and private research that counts towards restricted research, but not much if any.....so about 40 million is where the two would be combined the HSC has 6 million in endowment according to the THECB so that is little help towards the 400 million in endowment qualification the HCS awarded 17 doctoral degrees in 2011 so that is not a huge help towards the 200 needed, but north Texas is not that far from 200, but not all doctoral degrees are PhDs and only PhDs count so there could be even less than 17 that would count towards the total othar than that the HCS will really not help with any of the other "tier 1" metrics UTSA looked at merging with the UTHSCSA in 2009 and decided against it http://www.mysananto...THSC-840822.php the UTHSCSA did 117.5 million in federal research in 2011 so that would easily push UTSA over the needed 45 million since they were at 30.429,992 in restricted research for just the university in 2011 and only about 10% of the federal research for UTHSCSA would need to be national competitively awarded "restricted" research and I am sure way more than that is the UTHSCSA has a 412 million dollar endowment and that alone would be another metric met for "tier 1" without the 90 million included for UTSA alone so the two would have a 500 million+ dollar endowment the UTHSCSA awarded 49 doctorial degrees in 2011, but it does not break down which are PhDs and which are professional degrees as well and UTSA is a ways away from 200PhDs awarded annually so that would not be a big boost in that metric the fact that UTSA decided against it (the UT System) and the fact that Texas uses a completely different formual to fund universities VS HSCs tells me that there is only a small chance this merger happens the fact that UTSA (the UT System) decided against it also tells me that even if it does happen it either will be excluded from helping towards "tier 1" or the "tier 1" metrics will be significantly elevated either for everyone or for those including a medical school that has been merged Texas Tech could have easily merged and met the requirements the first year, UH does not have a medical school.....UTA and UTD (either one) could have merged with UTSW and met the requirements and UTSA could have merged and come very close to getting the funding and none of them did so and that tells me they knew it either would not help them or the funding formula differences would have cost them to the point that the additional "tier 1" money would not have helped over come the cost of the merger in formula funding TAMU is looking at merging theirs into the TAMU campus, but the TAMU system is a bit different than the others in that 1. they do not have any schools in the emerging research category to be eligible for "tier 1" participation and 2. because the main university already has a large number of "outside" things under the main campus like Ag Extension and Ag Research and Engineering Extension and Research and The Forestry Service and Texas Transportation Institute they already have a large main ccampus administration dealing with locations state wide and they would not have to be as concerend with formula funding differences not covering overhead cost or costing them money overall lastly the whole main idea behind "tier 1" was not so much to make Texas universities look better to outsiders based on numbers alone, but to actually increase the amount of federal research dollars flowing into the state and a side effect of that would be an increase in stature for the universities......merging schools and HSCs does not accomplish that goal at all and it really would not significantly raise the stature of most institutions even if it was done there is a very limited amount of funding available now because the NRUF endowment is so small and the amount it pays out is not near enough to raise the stature of even a single university much less the two it pays out to now and spreading that money around even thinnner would pretty much make the amount of money awarded meaningless in the overall scope of the goals UH would complain the loudest because they have wanted a medical school for a while now and do not have one to merge with and TTU would either be against it (they have looked at merging in the past and the formula funding issue stands in the way and they are looking at having El Paso as a stand alone school as of now) or they would simply merge and keep right on getting funding.....UTD could easily merge with UTSW and make the requirements and UTSA would be close that would leave UTA and UTEP and TxState without an option to merge and I don't think the UT system is looking to pick winners and losers in their system right now between UTA and UTD and leaving UTEP and UTSA out in the cold......which tells me the UT System will be against merged university and HSC metrics being allowed to count towards "tier 1" even if mergers are allowed also since UTD will easily be the next campus to qualify for "tier 1" funding (even though it will still not be enough to make a difference overall) and that was pretty much the plan all along for the UT System I doubt they will want to allow a move that lowers the payout to UTD along with UH and TTU so basically even if the merger does happen I personally feel it will be of no benefit, it will only lead to increased metrics for "tier 1" with the possibility of higher metrics for schools with a merged med school, or it will significantly reduce the awarded funding to the point that it is of no benefit to anyone and I don't think that the other 7 emerging research universities and their systems are going to allow that it will not be a full medical school so far in dallas it is only 3rd and 4th year similar to Round Rock and the Baylor College of Dentistry is a TAMU institution already so TAMU already has a presence in dallas and they already have one "Baylor" affiliation even though the Baylor Hospital System is independent of the university and the College of Dentistry

Baylor School of Medicine like Baylor Hospital are not affiliated with Baylor University.

Agreed. UNTHSC has more research dollars than UNT does, so pooling the two together would be very, very beneficial for UNT's quest to be Tier 1.

I THINK that they play basketball on a portable floor in the end zone at the Kibbie Dome. Can't remember for sure[senior moment]

listened today...awesome stuff..thanks for doing this...sorry i missed it...won't happen again!

Agree. Rick

Harry and Evan, I enjoyed the show as always thank you for the hard work.

If you were stuck I could print the whole top of them and you could stick the entire top on, and cut out the hole.

They used to be up until around 68-69. But the Feds realized church & state separation was muddied by giving research funds to schools/hospitals tied to religious institutions. Schools/Hospitals were given the illusion of choice - they could stay with their religion/sect/denomination and lose federal funding OR keep the dollars and ditch their deity. The Med schools and Hospitals chose science. I, like you, assumed for many years that Baylor was Baylor was Baylor. And Im sure Baylor the University doesn't bother to correct people as it makes them look better. As an aside, A&M is opening their Med School here in Dallas this year I believe. Students will use Baylor Hospital as their teaching hospital. funny eh?

Ah! I did not know that... I guess I just assumed. Oh well. Either way, there are 2 Med schools in Houston, so I doubt the university will get to plant one.

I'm not sure what they did, or if they made the same type of move in order to move up in their standings. What I do know is that we were not doing this before and there was probably a reason for it, but were falling behind in the race for Tier1/NRUF funds, and this provides a quick boost to the bottom line without really doing anything. So now we can pool the HSC funds together with the University's research dollars, but we still don't have any new streams coming in, so we'll just be stuck at this new number (albeit a higher number). Also, Tech's main HSC is on the main Lubbock campus. They have several satellite campuses around the state too, so I don't know how that works. I would think the main Lubbock HSC campus would count towards the University's funds anyway. Ours is all the way down I-35W in Ft. Worth. Houston doesn't have a HSC... but they have a college of Optometry (I don't know if there is alot of extra funds for Optometry research). UT & Baylor both have Med school campuses in Houston, so I doubt UH gets one there.

Great show last night guys. Fantastic questions and, of course, great guest. I can't wait for the next one.

Heaven help anyone looking for season ticket info in this thread

We talkin bout message boards?!?!?!? On a message board?

You mean you feel it's out of place that a 5th year senior is starting over a sophomore who has been away from live-action football for over a year?

While a bit off-topic, I do believe this is a fair concern, and one that needs to be addressed.

Obviously, you didn't read the post before you replied...try going back and reading the whole thing....might actually let you see that i was not talking about you and said so...reading compreshension must be a lost art these days...SIGH! EDIT/Add: Thanks to StormChaser who actually did read the entire post.