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It's really difficult for old, white people to accept that the country is not the way it was in 1958. I know of a few that are highly irrational about today's opinion. The world is what it is. If America has become full of freeloaders, that's just the way it is. My life remains the same today as it was 24 hours ago. I feel sorry for people who wrap themselves up in the political.

i mean... we ARE closer to Seattle...

The best part of this video is that I saw Tony and J-Will in it wearing North Texas shirts. I feel like decades of apathy are being erased one t-shirt at a time.

I can't speak to teams prior to 1975-1976. On paper, our current group, looks to be as good or better than any team since Blakely's teams of the mid to late 70's. The 75-76 group (22-4) was clearly the best; with the most talent. Current Roster/Team vs. 1975-1976 Roster/Team 2011-2012 4th place (West Division) Sunbelt Conference tournament finalist 9-7 Conference Record; 18-14 Overall Avg. attendance of over 4,000 (student enrollment of 36,000; Denton population of 113,000 Estimated ranking in Texas vs. other Texas programs: 1) Baylor 2) Texas A&M 3) Texas 4) UTA (28 point loss) 5) Texas Tech (loss) Tournament Bid(s) – None 65 Team NCAA Field 32 Team (NIT) 16 Team (CBI) 32 Team (CIT) 1975-1976 Last National Ranking (17th or 18th) Consensus Best Team in Texas (Texas Sportswriters); Ahead of Houston, Baylor, Texas & Texas A&M 1) North Texas 2) West Texas State 22-4 Record (School Record at the time) Tournament Bid(s) – None Team finished 22-4 but as an independent, was not invited to the 32 team NCAA tournament or 12 team NIT. No other tournaments existed. Outrage in Denton! Keep in mind the era this team participated in: No PC’s (internet – Facebook, Twitter) No Rivals Rating No AAU ball No Summer camps in Texas No Texas Hoops.com No You-Tube/BallisLife video Tony Mitchell is the only current member who starts on the1975-1976 team; additionally, no current bench player plays ahead of the 75 bench. Player comparisons PG – Weasel Johnson > Chris Jones Earl King > Trey Norris, PJ Hardwick SG – Carl Jones > Brandon Walton Danny Kaspar = Alzee Williams SF Fred Mitchell > Jeffrey Patton, Jordan Willams, Roger Franklin Waymond Lister > Jeffrey Patton, Jordan Williams, Roger Franklin PF Terry Bailey > Niko Sto, C Kenneth Williams > Keith Coleman Kenneth Williams – 1st Team All-State Class 4A (State semi-finals); Led nation in rebounding Weasel Johnson, All Conference McLennon JC Earl King, All-State (Chicago, Ill) Fred Mitchell – Player of the year (4A) One publication; MVP –TX HS All Star Game Waymond Lister – 1st Team All-State (MVP – Texas HS All Star Game) Terry Baily – All-American, Henderson County JC. (Texas Eastern Conference 1st team) Melvin Davis – All State Greenville HS; NBA If Rivals existed in 1975: HS Recruits: Fred Mitchell – 3 Star (Top 10 State Ranking) Kenneth Williams – 4 Star (Top 10 State Ranking) Waymond Lister – 3 Star (Top 20 State Ranking) Melvin Davis - 4 Star (Top 10 State Ranking) We added in 76-77, Jon Manning and Charles McMllian (SOC All-Time Great) McMillian was #1 ranked recruit in Dallas and 1st Team All-State (State Runner up 4A) Juco, All-American from Tyler Junior College. National recruit. Team finished 22-4 but was an independent and was not invited to a 32 team NCAA tournament due to automatic spots for conference champs. (or 16 team NIT. No other tournaments existed. Average attendance was about 5,000 with a student enrollment of 17,000 and Denton population of 40,000 Fred Mitchell http://amarillo.com/stories/062802/spo_forhallof.shtml http://amarillo.com/stories/012504/mor_pshpast.shtml Melvin “Lurch” Davis http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19780708&id=cyMhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=emcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3747,3197206 http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1368&dat=19780907&id=5YBRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_xEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6674,1183289 Kenneth Williams http://www.unt.edu/50yearsofprogress/athleticeventbreakers.htm http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ac-7160366 Texas HS All Star Game MVP’s 17-All-Star Narratives - DrBillyWilbanks.com 1971 – Carl Jones 1974 – Fred Mitchell 1975 – Waymond Lister The 1975-1976 teams beats the current team 8 out of 10 games; average of 8-10 point victories. I’m all for our current guys advancing to the final four and all but enough of this best ever talk.

Probably the ones who are passing legislation that many women perceive will negatively impact them, not so much the one who uses a common phrase people use in emphasis of a point or perceived winning situation.

Am I only one who didn't realize he was Latino until now? If this is true, why haven't we had more success in recruting the top talent in Mexia?

I'll have my wife chat him up in Spanish to see if he's a real Mexican.

The more I have become familiar with our long-time fans (and hearing their stories), the more I realize NT's past is not necessarily one of losing; rather, one of incredible teams and athletes coupled with crappy administrative decisions and piss poor timing.

Bitchin' answer.

She's 40.

Pics of feet plz

Sorry, that's all the pictures I have - 1 pictures, and it's from her business's website. She lives in Tulsa. I moved to Tulsa married and left single. KA-POW! She loved Tulsa and stayed. The truth is, once you got past the sex, our personalities were different. Sex can only take you so far in a relationship; you need good Mexican food as well. And, someone who can keep a house clean in their free time. And, have dinner waiting for you when you get home from work.

Love to see us land the big guys in the trenches. Now, if we could just land 3 big guys in the other trench, I'd be estatic.

Just waiting for some of the "usual suspects" to find something to complain about regarding this site...you know, how UNT "dropped the ball" on something once again...something really really important like the shirt a guy is wearing on an ad in a university magazine, or the football helmet displayed in some news cast...you know, really really critical things like that. Waiting...10...9...8...7...6.... For the record...I'm with Harry here...cool site indeed!

We don't need a law school.

The government already controls every aspect of my life. Patriot Act. Drug Prohibition. Reproductive/Family Planning. Car Inspections. I can't buy beer before noon on Sundays. Car Inspections. Etc.

I agree with 100% of what you say, especially about the hypocondriacs and their desire for cheap co-pays. Nothing really changes. So, it's hard for me to get worked up about it. It's more Democrats versus Republican garbage. People have got to outgrow it.

As a tax accountant, I looked forward to being employed forever.

If you've already been in the practice of buying health insurance, how are you going to be poorer? It's not like health rates were trending downward anyway. Look, let's be realistic about all of this. Everybody knew Obama was lying when he said premiums would go down because of this bill. But, who gives a crap? Only plastic dick forks believe politicians anyway. If you thought the man was telling the truth, I want to sell you some of my ocean-front property in Nevada. Those of us who do not freeload were alread paying for the freeloaders. And, our prices were not going down. Not even close. This bill does no more than change the middle man a little bit. Before, middle man was insurer. Now, middle man is government and insurer - both of whom suck royally, but that's just life. And, as for the "we're losing our freedoms/Ron Paul crowd": Call me when we're in labor camps like the North Vietnamese. Until the 16th Amendment is appealed, Congress has the ability to tax.

That explains the lack of recruiting presence in Farmer's Branch...

Dude, you did not want to see her feet. Her toes were all screwed up from ballet. That's always the downside of dating, marrying, and whatnot of ballerinas - they've got great legs, thin bodies, but their toes are all mashed up from years in the pointes.

My life isn't the same. I'm going to be a bit poorer. Enough to hurt, but not enough to hurt so bad that it'll change how I do a whole bunch of things. I'll just have to find more ways to earn money to cover insurance or taxes, er... penalties, er... fees, er... taxes. I'm a fairly young guy and this kinda screws me. Here I've been taking care of myself on my own dime, and my two options appear to be: 1) Pay out of pocket as I do now AND pay extra in taxes for the privilege of taking care of myself 2) Pay a ridiculous premium for a qualified insurance plan The problem with this tax is that it doesn't provide me with anything. It's simply a gouge.

Hmmm. Coincidence that today is also SilverEagle's birthday? The pic is a sham everyone. Finkle is Einhorn!

But mike gundy wants to know if she's a man?

welll if we keep picking these guys up, we're gonna need some taller QB's

Now it is a benefit that they provide and can make them better than other prospective employers. In the future, they either have to dumb down their current benefits package or pay extra on top of the premium that they currently pay to offer top health insurance. All companies will offer the same basic plan, so you no longer have an employment advantage. If the math works, why bother offering the same thing as everyone else when your employees can (and must) go get it themselves? Look for something new to make you a better prospective employer and help your bottom line. Oh, and there will not be a concept of "I don't pay that money out, so let's give it to the employees." This saved money will go straight to profits.

I noticed a big difference in the type of athlete on the floor between the SLC and the SBC days with the SBC being a big step up. Of course there are good SLC teams these days i.e. UTA this year and SFA has had a nice run but overall the talent level is huge. Kinda like the difference in the SBC and the Big XII. I know we played a tougher OOC schedule back then but we always had a horrible record going into conference play. We have been far more competitive against the LBSU's and Colorado State's of the world in the last 5-6 years. So much so we are bitching when we do lose one of those games. I say all of this going back to - no way the '88 team hangs with next years team even without Tony Mitchell. I do believe Cooley when he says the teams of the mid 70's were so much better. The reason is we were coming out of the MVC - a top level conference for basketball. Even though we were pretty much a mid to lower level MVC team, a lower level MVC team had better players than most conferences i.e. the SWC. The best players want to play against the best competition. Pecking order. We should see better athletes in general when in CUSA. We were the class of the SLC in '88 and '89 but it was the SLC. Solid bench with Keevie and Whittington? I don't think so. The most solid thing Whittington did was propose to his fiance at the Super Pit. Remeber that? I can't remember if it was during or after - maybe halftime.

The health insurance benefit is something that came about during the world wars as a means to recruit workers. During the world wars wages were frozen so companies looked to provide something else to recruit workers. There has never been a requirement to provide health insurance, it was just a nice benefit companies provided their employees. Now it is a requirement however the federal government said that if a company is not going to provide health insurance the company must pay a fine to help offset some of the costs for its employees to get health insurance through the exchanges that are going to be established. If health insurance costs prove to be too great, companies may elect to pay the fine and dump the health insurance benefit.

I'm looking forward to a....wait for it...healthy debate.

Brace yourselves. Everyone on GMG is about to become a Constitutional Scholar.

Josh White is not letting that Red Raider by. Not a chance.

Well...this should be a fun thread today...

So what would we do with FIU, ODU, and charlotte?

The 2012 team has yet to prove itself so I'm not going to answer the question in regard to what team is/was the best definitively, but I have a hard time believing that this is not the best team ON PAPER to ever suit up at North Texas. OVERALL, athletes are physically bigger, stronger, and more polished these days, and I just couldn't see that '88 team or even the Lyons led teams competing with these guys. These thoughts are a complete generalization, because I know that there were many athletes from yesteryear who could not only compete in today's game, but could tear it up with the training and nutritional advantages that many players get these days. About the only advantage I see for the players back in the day, is that they were damn tough dudes overall. BTW, I go back to the late Blakeley teams, and my first NT BB game to witness was Depaul

Summer - 1978

Which ever way you lean on this issue, you have to admire the confidentiality of all members of the Supreme Court who have known which way the decision will go for quite some time. Not just justices, but their clerks and many of their staff. High tension in the final hours.

Besides, who in the hell is going to hire an Aggie lawyer ? Most Aggies think a 'lawsuit' is a cop's uniform.

That is not a fair way for evaluating law schools. No one in their right mind would say St. Marys is better than UHLC, Baylor, Tech, SMU or UT as far as employment prospects. The four T1-T2 schools in Texas have an outstanding difference when it comes to total employment compared to the TTT and TTTT schools- not just legal employment. Many people go to law school for various reasons- business work, clerk ship, further academia or entrepunership. You can't evaluate a school based on what percent are lawyers. Also, if you look at the employment numbers for schools it will show that the sought after jobs (aka, high paying) go to UT, UHLC, Baylor and SMU in overwhelming numbers. -- Screaming Eagle, I'm not saying good attorneys do not come out of these schools. Fact is MOST students get terrible jobs, if they get a job at all. I'm sure being in the top of your class and connections will land you a solid gig. Again, it's important to get a solid job, unless you are contempt with being in debt for a long time. -- I don't want to make it seem like the caliber of school is aligned to how much money you will make. Point is, with the amount of loans students have to take out, law school is a bad economic decision unless you are going to a top Texas school with a nice scholarhsip. If not you will be in debt for a loooooong time. Which goes back to my initial point. UNT will not be a top school in Texas for a while and the students who graduate are going to be in tough shape which will hurt the reputation. In all honesty UNT is not needed, in fact, TWU is not needed. There is an over saturation of lawyers in the metroplex, and in the country.

There's a huge assumption here that the THECB (Higher Education Coordinating Board) is actually going to approve this. The last time UNT tried to buy TWU Law and A&M tried to buy South Texas, it got shot down at that stage because the Attorney General essentially decided that public universities can't use taxpayer money to buy private schools. A&M's tried to contract around it - but I think it's pretty transparent. We're also forgetting that there is an inter-system rivalry at play here - one which will play out at the THECB and in the legislature. It's an opening salvo in the biennial battle for money and influence at the legislature - and this makes it pretty clear the the lines are going to be A&M and UH vs. UT, UNT and TTU. No way that those three systems are going to let it happen without a fight, and the only reason UH is on board is because A&M didn't try to buy South Texas again. UNTLaw is mostly unaffected by this change. Why? Well, first the school has met all requirements to start and no further approval is needed from the state. Second, A&M Wesleyan would be a much bigger threat to Texas Tech than it would be to UNT. It's not like A&M will be massively expanding the school, it just means that a major advantage Tech had over Wesleyan (cost) will soon be gone. Third, nothing really changes - the whole "only city without a public law school" was really just marketing lingo to get it approved, and is pretty meaningless after the fact. Fourth, just because A&M is running the show (assuming it goes through) doesn't mean that the school will be any better. Anybody who picks their law school based on their undergraduate reputation is in for a world of hurt. Fifth, UNTLaw is still in downtown Dallas. That remains a massive advantage over everyone but Texas and South Texas. There's plenty of other reasons to be unconcerned, but 5 is enough to start. As far as the legal industry itself is concerned: the situation in Texas is not as bad as it is elsewhere in the nation. There's a whole bunch of people complaining because they thought that going to a "top-tier" school (there are none in Texas, as top tier really only means a small list of 14 schools, none closer than Chicago) guarantees them money and success. That used to seem logical, until the ABA released the first legal employment numbers for all law schools. For people who are planning on going to law school, these are the most important numbers to consider (to a lesser extent, clerkships, partners, journal citation and bar pass rates should also be considered). If someone is dumb enough to rely on US News's numbers, they shouldn't be in law school to begin with - they should consider a more simplistic profession - like animal husbandry or medicine . So what schools actually produce employable lawyers? Here's the ABA's list. St. Mary's 78.31% Baylor 70.06% Texas - Austin 69.90% South Texas 64.43% Texas Tech 63.50% Vanderbilt Western University (SMU) 63.24% Houston 60.14% Texas Southern 53.37% Wesleyan 48.88% Shocked the heck outta me, but any lawyer knows that it's not who gets the highest score on the bar that becomes the best lawyer, its the guy who knows what hands to shake. So congrats to the Aggies if they do get this through - they've just become the worst public law school in the state - assuming you actually want to be a lawyer when you graduate.

Wow. An 8th place pick for the Mean Green in the SBC? Very doubtful. Please, God, let Derrick Thompson stay healthy!!!!!

Law Schools are just like 4 year universities. They give you the tools, but it's up to the individual to hone those and succeed in their chosen profession. There are bad lawyers that attended Harvard Law and their are good lawyers that attended schools like Weslyan. Weslyan has a 4 year, go at night program that attracts students with life experience. People who already have a job, but are looking to change professions or simply better their personal situation. These types are often much better prepared for the work place straight out of law school than the 24 or 25 year old who has basically done nothing but attend school their entire life. As far as the Dallas DA is concerned, if you look at both the Dallas and Tarrant County DA's offices, you will find a big percentage of the prosecutors with Weslyan law degrees. And they often beat the crap out of your UT law grads in court.

Cooley, what year did you finish at UNT?

Why didn't they have redskins helmets?

And I thought the lid was on this can of worms

Nice to hear how he looked but more importantly how did he play?

As a UNT alumn, class of 66', I wanted us to have a public law school in DFW. As a tax payer, we now have one. I see no need for another. What is needed is a School of Pharmacy. Lets save our money and political chips to make sure that need is fullfilled.

They had a pickup game at the rec yesterday and I stayed and watch. Mitchell was throwing down some crazy dunks. However, the whole team looked good. Also, Keith Coleman is an absolute physical beast. He made Tony look small.

Excellent write up, and an amazing thing is that Bobby Iverson could have been on that team if he had stayed. He was a legit HS All American and may have been a bigger signing than Tony Mitchell.

I see this as the camel sticking its nose under the tent. Four team playoff gives the non-power conference zero change to get in, but the fact that we have a playoff will pave the way for future expansion. It WILL happen when they realize the money will be huge. By 2020, there will be talk of all conference champions receiving automatic bids.