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Hey guys I am sure that you all saw the recent posts for fans that were needed for the Texas Monthly college football fan photo shoot. Well I ended up going and doing the photo shoot and being a representative of UNT down in Austin. It was a great gig, and they put me up in the Omni hotel for 2 nights down here in Austin. Texas Monthly couldn't find any other UNT fans so I got my girl friend who is a UNT alumni as well to participate. Well we got to the shoot today, and it seemed like there was a stereotypical fan from each FBS school in Texas. Here were a few stereotypes I noticed about a few of the schools fans. The TCU and SMU fans that arrived were very typical. They came dressed in with their shirts tucked in, hair combed over, and wearing their sperrys. The Tech fans were the first ones to start drinking, and had a flag that said Tech drinking team. The A&m fans had some of their male fictional military cheerleaders there. The Texas fans were nice and had good things to say about our university. The Rice, U of H and UTEP fans all were very nice as well. We all talked about football and how our schools are moving in the right direction. I showed pictures of our new palace, and they agreed it was awesome. I had a lot of fun down here and tried to promote our University as best as I could. I can't get to any more specifics about what was done with the shoot but look out for the September edition of Texas Monthly, Go Mean Green!

Can't we move this to the Wright Waters Tavern forum? utsa is not about Mean Green Football.

I have noticed several guys who post with Sig Ep logos attached. I want to connect with you guys and let you know about an event I am planning for the Indiana game. My goal is to spearhead an event that will bring some of the old alumni like myself (79-84)out to a game at the new stadium. We have had a good quick response and are expecting at a minimum around 100. These are guys who have not been to game in a long time. I hope seeing the new stadium and tailgate set up may lead to some of this crew making this a new tradition for us. I certainly want to get our area along side or close to the current brothers for some interaction. Would any of you guys like to coop this with another era of your buddies? This type of thing could be a blast if we could get someone like Rudy's to cater and find some activities to do together. Some of the guys on this board probably have some great tailgate ideas to share. To me it is game day stuff like this that will assist our program in gettng the support it needs. Since the tailgate scene has been started I have believed that this was what was needed to bring back old alums that remember games being a lukewarm event. The past was certainly nothing that would get you to bring your family up for an entire Saturday evening. Of course unless you were already a die hard fan. As fans we all have talked about us dragging others to a game with us but this I am hoping to spark interest from several who will see this as a great way to spend an afternoon at our game instead of watching others on tv and wishing we were that type of school. A school that supports its teams and provides a great venue and game day experiance.

How exactly is a moose involved? That sounds painful

Same here. And I comb my hair too.

Correction. "That's a pic from the great dickey era." As Vito suggests, the word "great" must be placed in front of Dickey's name any time you mention it. If you don't, you clearly don't understand the meaning of greatness. See the Mean Green Blog for definitions and examples.

People's fascination with one program that has never played a down of football and one the has no immediate plan to play a down of football saddens me. Way to set the bar, folks.

Not to stereotype, but I've yet to speak with a Texas fan that wasn't a complete douche. Props for finding one.

Bleacher Report sucks.

...seeing how we use Brelan Chancellor! and more Chico! What about ya'll? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU9iom7f3qc&feature=related

Great to hear that some alumni want to start an awesome event like this. Trust me, the active chapter would love to be involved. We pride ourselves in our support of UNT athletics. Something the Greek community doesn't do enough of. I'll PM you some more info.

Watching this crap that is playing out in DC and in Austin the last few months has really disappointed me and made me even a bit more jaded toward politicians...all politicians it seems. Both sides seem to be interested in getting elected and re-elected rather than rolling up their sleeves and actually doing the "people's work". I don't care which side of the aisle you are on, it seems both sides are only interested in prolonging their political careers and bowing to the special interest groups that pay into their campaign coffers. Where are the real leaders and real representatives who don't give a darn about what some special interest group thinks of their vote one way or the other and who are willing to make the tough decisions and compromise when it is in the best interests of the nation and its citizens? This is getting to be all about posturing and the bully pulpit until the last second and then...gee...something gets done. We all know there will be an agreement on the debt ceiling issue...so, why do all the childish crap before really getting down to business and hammering out a compromise agreement that works? Seems to me that if our elected officials really had the citizens best interests in mind that this stuff would get done long before any potential crises developed. As much as I hate to say (as I am philosophically opposed to term limits for representatives and senators) it just may be time for term limits. That would, at least, limit the influence of some special interests as the folks being elected would know their time was limited...then the yahoos would have to come home and live under the laws they enacted while in office. Maybe I am just frustrated with the current state of affairs in DC and in Austin, probably so, but there is a severe lack of real leadership in both parties from the very top down these days...and it is clearly showing. Good grief, folks...get on with it and act like grownups for a change. OK, I feel better now...thanks. carry on......

Yes! Let's discuss Vito and Dickey's behind closed doors relationship some more.

What are you doing discussing Mean Green football in this forum? Until August, this forum is reserved for uniform, WAC, and merchandise talk. Maybe a little Mike Leach thrown in for good measure.

Now that's what I call hijacking a thread!

That's really pretty funny. +1 for you, sir!

The SBC is stable because conference teams have no place to go. The SBC isn't getting better, the WAC just got bad in a hurry. Our university needs to get out of the SBC as soon as possible. We're keeping bad company. Momma warned us about that.

Get rid of that GOD AWFUL swoosh on the front, and that would be a GREAT HAT !!! GO MEAN GREEN !!!

Also, I want a baseball team. Please. That's one thing that really hurts us, in my opinion.

That's as close to a perfect hat as I've seen produced in a looong time. Nice and simple "NORTH TEXAS" and Mean Green. Big time programs don't have to have glitzy/gimmicky gear.....just tell em' who you are, and that should be enough. Now, if the exes would only produce a cap just like this one with the NT exes logo on the front, and exes on the back......

The only way the WAC becomes a good option is if it adds enough quality members that it can split into eastern and western divisions. That doesn't seen likely. The SBC is a lousy choice but it may be the only choice we have at present. It must be remembered that the best program in the SBC will never be considered anything better than mediocre by the rest of the world. It must be remembered that our university will be judged by the company we keep. In the SBC our 'peer' universities are third-rate athletic programs and 4th-rate academic schools. UNT needs to be doing everything possible to move up to something respectable. That's not the WAC (at least not right now) and it's certainly not the SBC.

You're welcome, by the way. Also...you haven't even told them about the gay Mexicans...

The biggest problem for your advocacy of increasing the capital gains tax is it works a lot like a sales tax. You will only pay the tax when you realize a profit resulting from the sell an investment. So raising the capital gains tax could dissuade investors from selling large blocks of stocks/EFTs/Mutual Funds. Otherwise, you are only collecting on dividends and capital gains for certain stocks, EFTs and Mutual funds, which depending on how many shares you own is only a small amount the government would collect on. For someone such as myself that is in the process of building wealth, it really irks me to pay capital gain taxes when I never sold a stock/EFT/Mutual fund and use DRIPs on dividends I received. I hate the idea of punishing people for building wealth for their retirement when they reinvest dividends rather than taking the cash. Thankfully there are investment vehicles where future earnings can be withdrawn tax free (Roth IRA).

Hey guys I am going down to Austin for the photo shoot this weekend. Is there anyone else that would want to drive down there as well for the shoot. They are going to put me up in a hotel room Friday night, and I have a contact at Texas Monthly that needs one more die hard UNT fan. If you are interested message me on here and I will give you her email address.

Good for you, Michael.

there is no, what you call bullshit, in any of the statements you disagree with. if you have problems with any of the statements then you need to take some time and look it up because i have. Besides this is "very" basic information and common knowledge.

You do make valid points on the issue. I would like to add that it was the Congress that was a northern majority that was, essentially, making almost exclusively, shipping ports in the north where all foreign goods were to be shipped and received leaving the south without a legitimate port to enhance any foreign trade. This forced the south to transport a majority of their goods to northern cities. The congress passed tax laws that were unfavorable to the south. The average southerner was having to pay at least two to three times as much in taxes as their norther counter part. Congress made it almost impossible for the south to build manufacturing plants to produce goods made from cotton...ect.....by the time the war began the south, i believe, only had a handful of plants to make cannon and arms. The United States was the only place in the western hemispher where slaves were able to procreate. By the time that slavery was prohibited in the U.S. there were approximately 400k (or so slaves) & mostly in the south, naturally, even though they were in all the other states and territories. By the time the war began the number grew to over 2 million. Strangely enough the worst of the slave owners were themselves black freemen who were once themselves slaves. Most of these slave owners were in Louisiana and Mississippi. I would like to add that the cost of a slave to a regular owner would almost equate to a year's wages of an average white man. To me it would be hard to justify abuse of such property. CBL is correct in stating that most plantations had schools and churchs errected to the education of their slaves. Even though this was against the law the south did turn their head the other way, en mass, and I do not ever recall, in my readings, that anyone was ever prosecuted for this act. Essentially, the U.S. Congress forced the south into an agrarian state and forced the south to transport those goods north for sale and export. Southerners were overtaxed by a northern majority that felt that the populace down south were hicks and were there for their own financial gains. One only has to research northern archives to get the true feelings of the north against the south. The north did want to send a militia force through Virginia and North Carolina to collect back taxes of South Carolina on two occasions in the mid to late '50s and Virginia and N.C. told the north that they were not marching through our states to get to South Carolina. The north backed down both times.

Please get this off our board, please.

The WAC is in desperation mode adding unproven fcs-move ups to stabilize the conference. But at certain point the possibility a Texas focused division becomes appealing for UNT. So at what point does the new WAC become a good option for the Mean Green.

Truman Spencer has been spotted at North Texas. Truman is back for a couple of weeks before reporting back to Training Camp. Looks like his workout buddy is the Atterberry Kid, incoming freshman. Saw them both in the weight room the last couple of days working hard and it appeared Atterberry was keeping up with Truman although it was a Mutt and Jeff picture as Truman dwarfed the new kid. I think Truman has added 20 pounds of muscle since leaving NT, that guy looks like a DE not a kicker!

It makes as much sense in this thread as it does where it was first posted. That is all. I make no promises for quality.

I didn't say it wasn't good info - I was just trying to help spread the good word. I'll give you three reasons UNT will be better any thread, any time, anywhere. I'm the Southern Miss of good news.

Yup. There are also dozens of streakers running around before the snap.

Dude, at least read the book if you're going to use it for either side.

You're wrong. None too surprisingly, though.

!BOOM ROASTED!

The 1980 US Hockey team called, it says to tap the brakes.

Sun Belt rising!

No Ass is correct about the NT Alum (Exes)

I guess I dress like a TCU and SMU fan...

We have specialized most decades since I graduated (circa, 1976) somewhat like the old football drill called "running in place." That means we did a helluva' bunch of leg work but we weren't getting anywhere with it; that is, getting to a destination whereas our athletic accomplishments would be recognized as a Top 50 NCAA D1/FBS type of athletic program . Great people, ie, nicely paid staffers, make great athletic programs. It does not happen because of who we used to have, who we wish we'd had or just living on the "boy-howdy, our potential at UNT is unlimited" as our non-stop yet unrealized battle cry. What will sink many of our ships or spirits (if you will) is "IF" UTSA were to actually pull a South Floiida type rise from athletic nothing-ness, leaps in an upwardly bound manner from one league to a much better league and what it has taken North Texas about 100 years to do of playing football the Road Runners do it USF-style in less than 10 years. (Lest anyone forget, FAU in our own league has been playing football about 10 years (give or take) and we have hardly dominated them even losing to them one year we went to a bowl game when they were not yet official members of the SBC. Again...."If' that were to happen even down in the Alamo City, that would create a very awkward moment for whoever our UNT leaders are (if not the same ones still on payroll) trying to explain why we would still be in the midst of some kind of "you name the number" year plan in Denton that still has not come to fruition at a truly recognized level of success somewhat like Boise State's. GrandGreen I do think we should pay close attention to your below quote because some of us have seen countless other football programs pass us by post our Missouri Valley Conference membership years and your quote : "The truth is that additional fb teams will only increase the already great competition for resources in Texas. No one will be an immediate threat to NT but unless NT continues to substantially improve their athletic programs, they could in a few short years drop even further down in the state's athletic hierarchy."

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