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Ok, here we go. After the Saturday games I will start a new "last week" thread for these scenarios, but for now it can just get added on to here: The big things tonight were ULL beating ASU, and WKU beating UALR (its not a huge deal, but does give UALR an extra loss in case something wacky happens). With the Cajuns victory, 4 of the scenarios above are eliminated. The scenarios that are still alive are numbers 3, 5, 6, and 8. The remaining scenarios below have been changed to take into account the UALR loss, and once again take into account ONLY what is in our control, or inevitable (if two teams play, one has to lose). Here are the 4 scenarios: 1) If Denver wins @ ULL...and UALR wins @ ASU: Denver wins the west (11-5)...UNT and ULL tied for #2. UNT wins the tiebreak by virtue of a better record vs. all west division teams. Bye #1: Denver; Bye #2 North Texas. 2) If Denver wins @ ULL...and ASU wins vs. UALR: Denver wins the west (11-5)...UNT, ULL, and ASU tie for #2. UNT wins the tiebreak with a 3-1 record vs. all involved teams. Bye #1: Denver; Bye #2: North Texas. 3) If ULL wins vs. Denver...and UALR wins @ ASU: ULL wins the west (11-5)...UNT and Denver tied for #2. UNT wins the tiebreak with a better record vs. all west division teams. Bye #1: ULL; Bye #2: North Texas. 4) If ULL wins vs. Denver...and ASU wins vs. UALR: ULL wins the west (11-5)...UNT, ASU, and Denver tied for #2. UNT wins the tiebreaker with a 3-1 record vs. all involved teams. Bye #1: ULL; Bye #2: North Texas. So, as long as we keep winning, we WILL get a bye. It seems funky, but because ULL beat ASU, we now need help to get the west division title. It is not impossible though. There are also a couple games on Saturday that could hand losses to a couple of these teams: ASU @ Troy - ASU has not looked great on the road and Troy is playing well of late. WKU @ ULL - The toppers can help us out a lot with a win on Saturday. After those two games, the help is pretty much gone, and we need to take care of business ourselves. Once I get some brainpower back, I'm going to try and see if there is anyway to still get a bye if we drop 1 of these last 4. My initial guess is that it would be nearly impossible. Go Mean Green!

NT 82 USA 79 Thank God.

Ah I guess I can take one for the new team (UNT), and just wear my national championship boxers. I really like UNT, got no problem supporting it. On a side note, people at UNT are awsome! At UA everyones all stuck up and in cliques and the only way you get a long is if you grew up there (thank God I did!)or were in a frat/sorority. But UNT isnt like that at all, I didnt expect to make a ton of friends the first week of school but I did lol.

I finally got around to typing this up. This is going to be pretty long, but this is the situation we are in. This shows what can occur if we win out. That would mean we win our three remaining games at home, and then the two road games in Arkansas. ASU worries me significantly more than UALR, but that does not matter at this point. I am going to be working with the loss column a lot, and here are the current loss numbers for West Division contenders: Denver - 4 Arkansas State - 4 ULL - 5 UALR - 5 UNT - 6 Now, if we win out, our final record will be 10-6, and by virtue of winning out, UNT would give losses to ASU, UALR, and Denver. Losses for contenders would then be: Denver - 5 Arkansas State - 5 ULL - 5 UALR - 5 UNT - 6 There are many things that can happen, but this scenario ONLY considers what is completely in our control, which means our own games, as well as games between certain teams that guarantee there are losses to go around. These games are UALR @ ASU, ASU @ ULL (tonight), and Denver @ ULL. For this scenario we are assuming these teams win all other games they play. There are eight possible ways that these games can work themselves out, and I basically used sort of a binary system to do it. (0) UALR @ (1) ASU (0) ASU @ (1) ULL (0) Denver @ (1) ULL Using those 0's and 1's to show who wins, the eight scenarios are (from top to bottom): 1. 000 2. 100 3. 010 4. 001 5. 110 6. 011 7. 101 8. 111 Here are the outcomes of those scenarios: 1) Denver wins the west (11-5)...UNT, UALR, ASU tied for #2. UNT would be 4-0 head to head vs. those teams and would win the tiebreak. Bye #1: Denver; Bye #2: North Texas. 2) UNT, ASU, UALR and Denver all tied for SBCW title. UNT wins the tiebreak with a 5-1 record between the 3 other teams. Bye #1: North Texas; Bye #2: depends. 3) Denver wins the west (11-5)...UNT, ULL, and UALR tied for #2. UNT with a 3-1 record against those teams gets the second bye. Bye #1: Denver; Bye #2: North Texas. 4) All five teams tied for the title. UNT wins the tiebreak with a 6-2 record against involved teams. Bye #1 North Texas; Bye #2: depends. 5) Denver wins the west (11-5)...UNT, ASU, and ULL tied for #2. UNT wins the tiebreak with a 3-1 record against involved teams. Bye #1: Denver; Bye #2: North Texas. 6) ULL wins the west (11-5)...UNT, ASU, UALR, and Denver tied for #2. UNT wins the tiebreak with a 5-1 record against involved teams. Bye #1: ULL; Bye #2: North Texas 7) ASU wins the west (11-5)...UNT, ULL, and Denver tied for #2. All three teams are tied head to head, but UNT's 8-2 record vs. the west division wins it. Bye #1: ASU; Bye #2: North Texas. 8) ULL wins the west (11-5)...UNT, ASU, and Denver tied for #2. With a 3-1 record vs. involved teams UNT wins the tiebreak. Bye #1: ULL, Bye #2: North Texas. If we win out, we are guaranteed a bye. The fact that almost all of our losses have come to the east division helps with tiebreaks, and if we win out, we will literally hold every tiebreak possible against every west division team. These scenarios also assume all involved teams win all of their other games. With certain breaks, it would be possible for UNT to go 4-1 in this stretch and still get a bye. Once the ASU/ULL game tonight has been played, 4 of these scenarios will disappear. We are getting down to crunch time. For what its worth, of these scenarios, here are the potential west division champions: Denver - 3 scenarios North Texas - 2 scenarios ULL - 2 scenarios ASU - 1 scenario Hope that wasn't too long for you guys. It will basically be cut in half tonight, and we could also get a boost from a UALR loss. Go Mean Green!

So my friend was talking to me and hyping up the all star weekend and said hey Saturday you should come over and watch the dunk, 3-point and skills competitions! I said naw, if I want to see someone make a great dunk Ill watch odufua slam it home, if I want to see someone light it up from 3 point range I will just watch tristan scorch the nets, and if I want to see some mad ball handling skills I will just watch josh take it to the paint. So now instead of watching the all star game he will now be attending the UNT basketball game!

Attendance: 3422

Sometimes you just gotta kick it up a notch.

I'm sure the slide will not affect attendance, because unfortunately not many students pay attention

Abortions for some, miniature American flags for all!

How could that be the very first play run?

There's already a site set up for Lance's push towards the Heisman. Give it to Lance

When Being Biggest Isn’t the Best We know we’re big here in Texas, but does our public school payroll have to lead the nation? For every 10,000 Texans our state-supported schools employ 273 people. Come on, you say: New Jersey just has to lead Texas in that category, right? Wrong. New Jersey has just 266 school workers per 10,000 people. We’re No. 1! Aren’t you proud? And we could be proud—maybe—if the numbers reflected classroom teachers trying to stuff Shakespeare, the Declaration of Independence, and some algebra into young minds. In fact, nearly half our 661,000 public school workforce does something other than teach—administering, record-keeping, answering the telephone, cleaning, transporting, serving meals, and maybe devoting time to how they can avoid having their salaries and benefits trimmed, like so many private sector workers who pay the teachers’ salaries. The question we need to ask is, how come we need almost as many folks doing support work as there are doing the stuff for which schools supposedly exist in the first place—teaching kids? Big budget cuts are coming in government spending all over the United States—here as well as New Jersey, New York, California, and Wisconsin (where public workers lately stormed Capitol Square to protest). The money, as everybody and his dog knows by now, just isn’t there. Raise taxes, and you damage recovering economies and cause deterioration in private sector payrolls. Spending cuts in the government sector reflect reality: namely, too many people in legislatures and public bodies indiscriminately threw around money in the fat years that allowed them to hire more people than necessary to do the job. Even teachers are going to lose their jobs as public schools retrench. But when you’ve got nearly as many non-teachers on the payroll as teachers, you find ways to get by with fewer services at lower cost. By the way, it’s also how you learn what you really need as opposed to what public employee unions tell you.

Of course, you didn't think we'd win again until the Denver game at the Super Pit according to what you said a week or so ago.

I think we're skirting the real issue. My sympathies go out to the biggest victims: The Keebler Elves. This is like September 11th for them. Never Fudge-get, people.

This cinches it. Forget CUSA. We need to get into the SEC. They've managed to turn this board into a bunch of tree-huggers. That kind of power is not to be taken lightly.

UNT 90 Grad thinks he is.

So did Walter Priestly. I wasn't aware of Pearl.

The difference is the ability to replace one over the other, therefore the value is completely different. You can replace grass in minutes. But it will take another 130 years to replace the Oak Tree. Rick

My biggest wish in life is to see shirtless Craigslist photos of UNTFlyer. This is the first step to making that happen. Best of luck, sir.

Let's be honest -- this should probably happen to everyone who checks GMG while eating dinner at a restaurant with family. Life lesson -- or invitation to make "Got your Goatse" t-shirts?

What about snipers?

I think USA's record is deceiving. That to me, is a much better team than their record. (maybe they were young at the start of the year). And their two best players are from Texas....a sophomore from Dallas, and a great freshman from Houston. (#32 and #21 respectively---as I recall). I could easily see USA beating a really good team in the tourney. Just my opinion.

EAST FAU 10-3 18-9 MTSU 9-5 14-13 WKU 7-6 13-13 Troy 6-7 8-17 USA 4-9 10-14 FIU 4-9 9-16 WEST Denver 9-4 13-13 ASU 8-5 14-14 ULL 8-5 11-14 North Texas 6-6 17-8 UALR 6-6 14-13 ULM 1-13 6-22 Looks like we'd be slated for a matchup against USA in the tournament started tomorrow.

I asked Cop 2 these very things. Cop 2: "Beat cops? Nope. Never. Ever, ever." Cop 2: "Nope. We use a computerized system. Beat cops are evaluated on their response to the calls they are dispatched to. There is in no way, shape or form any correlation to their evaluation and writing tickets. We do not have any kind of 'board' or anything like that. Never have."

Ever consider that department had more than one briefing room, hence more than one board? It has several for each side of town at different sub-divisions, and there is a board in each.

This is crap. I'm tired of seeing bad and downright criminal behavior being written off as "passionate fans"

I opened this link on my Droid phone at dinner with my 3 year old daughter right as the server walked up.... music volume was up fairly high too. I scrambled to turn the volume down and dropped my phone on the ground as the opening lyrics "give it to me lance" began, for all to hear. I got funny looks from everyone around me the rest of dinner...thank you for that.

I'd take a bullet for this team if we get some wins.

I'd be the hugest douche you've never seen if UNT won a national championship.

No worries, man. I have enjoyed this discussion. I went ahead and talked to 2 cops this morning via phone. One is in the traffic division of a very large municipality. The second is a patrolman in another very large municipality. Disclaimer--I know both personally, and have for many years. I wanted to ask them questions in a blunt manner to see what they’d say, and told them (in generalities) about this discussion. Particularly wanted to address “pressure to write tickets” first: How long have you been in law enforcement? Cop 1: (25+) years. Cop 2: (15+) years. Do your officers have ticket quotas? Cop 1: “No. I’m speaking for traffic here…but is there an undercurrent of expectations? Yes. I want to see numbers on the sheet at the end of the day. I don’t want an officer getting paid for 8 hours if he’s not doing 8 hours work. Understand that traffic division writes roughly 80% of all tickets. That’s our job. There were (x) murders in this city last year. There were (over 2 times x) traffic fatalities. Our job is to stop speeding, because it’s a big contributor to this.” Cop 2: “No. That’s a common thought, but no. Everything is computerized now and we can pull up data at any time. Supervisors can see what the cop is doing.” Can’t the officer use his discretion? Give warnings? Cop 1: “Yes, but we want to slow people down and stop it. We want a deterrent, and we’ve found that if you sting people a little in the pocketbook, it is more effective as a deterrent.” Cop 2: “Yes. Both traffic and patrol can do this. Traffic is all about contacts, though. They write a lot of tickets. C’mon. You don’t hear about those being pressured to write tickets? Cop 2: No. I haven’t heard that, ever. Now, does the traffic department look favorably on some “go-getter” that’s out there writing tickets? Some guy with a swinging **** to write tickets? Yes. He would be viewed as doing his job well. Cops know within 30 seconds of the stop whether a warning or a ticket is most likely to be more effective in curbing speeding. That’s how they proceed. Some traffic cops will write a ticket EVERY time they make a stop. He would be viewed as consistent, and no one would ever say he played favorites. (laughs) Patrol cops are answering calls. They have a lot of discretion on whether they write tickets.” If there were 2 cops, and one turned in 2 tickets and 17 warnings at the end of the day, and one had 17 tickets and 2 warnings, which would be viewed more favorably? Cop 2: Welllll…traffic? The guy with more tickets probably would. But that’s viewed as a deterrent for those guys. Patrol? Look, everyone has discretion. We have to contact the public. The traffic guys are absolutely EXPECTED to have a lot of contact with the public. Otherwise they are not performing. They have discretion on writing tickets. I would say that a guy writing a lot of tickets would be more favorably viewed as doing his job well. The second part is the crux of this topic, which was originally "Speed Traps--Beware as the weather warms up, city revenue generators". Why are “speed traps” set up? Cop 1: “Much of the time they are set up as a result of CAR’s, which are Citizen’s Action Requests. We also have reports (accidents, tickets) of speeding activity, and we often set up there. We want to slow people down.” Cop 2: “Public complaints are probably #1. “Hey, there’s people running through here all day, running red lights and stop signs…” that kind of thing. Now, can a cop set up a stop if he wants because he believes he will write a lot of tickets there? Sure he can. But he will stop a lot of speeding, too, and he’s not going to set up in a place where speeding doesn’t occur. Isn’t that the point?” (Laughs) Have you ever been pressured…like “It’s near the end of the month, and we have a quota to fill, and the city needs to meet X amount of revenue this month” have you ever heard of that happening? Cop 1: Well, DOES it generate revenue? Sure. But we know what revenue we’re expected to generate at the start of the budget year, and if we meet it, we meet it. If not, we don’t. We don’t worry about that. Cop 2: No. Has it ever happened? Not in this department that I’ve ever seen. Ever. Now is some backwoods town doing it? Who knows? Of course it will increase revenue.” Ever? Cop 2: Speaking for what I’ve seen in (x) years? Never ever, ever, EVER have I heard that, or even heard it filtered down through ranks. You know why? Because cops would have talked about “Hey, I want you guys set up on (highway #) every day this week.” “Why?” “Don’t worry about it, just do it.” Has never happened. Would have heard about it." So, do cities set up speed traps to meet ticket quotas and generate revenue? Cop 1: “No.” (chuckle) Cop 2: “No. That is absolutely not the reason."

Bad news guys... If we kill killers, then according to Jordan Williams' facebook post, "Aye bro we bout 2 be killin next year", he and Tony Mitchell will be put to death before next years conference tournament.

Does anyone else feel like KingDL and Tasty are the BCS of GMG.com?

From the looks of the camera shots it seemed like Memphis was playing a home game. Looked like we were vastly outnumbered

Yes...bc neither one of them will start or even get a sniff of the field unless we have injuries like last year again.

Nah. This is an event to raise funds for the cheer squad that cheers at the football games. This is 100% football related. Carry on.

Its not proper etiquette to bump your own material more than once per 25 hours.

That's loser speak.

If he ran for 3240 yards(k-state game times 12), with 36 TDs, he would absolutely run away with the Heisman. However, that's completely unrealistic.

I'm not saying JWP reacted in the correct manner.... But to say the guy calling him "Chief Mullah" over and over wasn't in the wrong is silly.

A/S/L?

I will be very disappointed if this song is not played after each lance td.

Few people realize that Pogo was actually based on Churchill. Fun fact; Marmaduke is actually a thinly fictionalized chronicle of Abraham Lincoln's life and political career. SPOILER ALERT: The final comic is going to be a MAJOR downer.

Can we separate points by different forums. I get no respect on the basketball forum but you football guys seem to love me.

Please??

If only I could do a podcast from a plane..

I've never forgiven Egypt for the way they treated Moses. I wish nothing but utter failure upon that nation.

Can we all just agree all religions have their share of FumbDucks?