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Harry, that stat cannot be right. Students now are forced to pay an athletic fee. That is going to severely damage the university. School costs enough as it is. They are not going to come to UNT now that they have to pay that athletic fee.

This can be a positive too. You guys will have film on them, and they won't have any on you. Plus, you'll be fresh

Problem is, it looks like this will be our 1st game, but not theirs.

Damn all those that contribute meaningful content to this site.

I couldn't disagree with this more....but I see where you are coming from. Playing Houston will give reason to pack out this stadium (even if 1/3 are wearing red) but playing WKU is another one of those "who is UNT playing?" games that does nothing for us. While I actually look forward to our WKU games on both sides of the house (BBall and Football) I couldn't think of a better team to open against. Hopefully...if things do not work out for us (keep the faith) people will realize that: 1.) The glorious June Jones era SMU team that some idiots are comparing to TCU has never beaten Houston. 2.) This team beat Ok St. Texas Tech, Miss. St and many others in the last 3 yrs. 3.) Their QB is a Heisman candidate I will not make excuses for a potential loss to Houston after seeing both the Clemson and Kansas State games last year. Houston is beatable...and we are a team that can do it and esp with Keenum being gone a yr before he throws the pigskin against us (let's hope for a Dasher type situation here). I was talking to someone last week that stated "ohh yeah UNT....man they are opening their new stadium with Houston...I have to get tickets to that game" and I seriously doubt that WKU would ever be mentioned in a similar statement. Just come out with the intention of winning and will can do just that.

Congratulations son, your an idiot.

Thanks guys. Sorry about not knowing this had already been posted.

We don't take kindly to quitters around here.

If so , maybe Lee Corso could provide one

cant we get a merkin if we need that?

Mac is a very polarizing figure for us. You should have seen the message boards when he was let go. It was entertaining and scary at the same time. Lots of mental patients evidently have access to computers. Anyway, the universal complaint if you look at them, is his conservative "play calling" whatever that means. Iowa State fans can vividly remember games where conservative game plans apparently cost us wins. I'd agree that there were several. That said, maybe 4 times in 12 years isn't that often, and people forget that. They also fail to remember or discuss the times where his game management WON games for us. It's a selective memory thing. He won more games for us than he lost due to "play calling", trust me. As and aside... I always get a kick out of people on message boards bemoaning "stupid play calling". What does that mean? It means the play didn't work for some reason, and 90% of the time it doesn't work because somebody on the offense jacked something up. The play call was good, the execution bad. The OC or HC could have an ideal call in a certain situation called and the center blocks the wrong person. "The OC or HC sucks. He can't call plays". You'll also notice that most diatribes about play calling come when their team just got beat by a better team, ergo fewer plays work. The nature of message board fans i guess.

Iowa State has some passionate fans, I always apperciate the insight on Mac from them. Hopefully they have a good season too, they are my favorite BIg XII team now.

With the current class being ranked #31 after the early signing period, how will Tony Mitchell affect our final ranking? Will he be included in this recruiting class for the purpose of national ranking? It would be nice to have a class ranked in the top 20, which I think would happen if Mitchell is included. Does anyone know if Mitchell will be included for this purpose?

Show me the BYU QBs that did it before Ty Detmer. And if you can't find one, go steal the Heisman back from Houston QB Andre Ware.

The football is a metaphor for Egyptian democracy.

I'm just old enough to remember reading Pogo as a kid, but I was too young then to understand it. If it still existed today, it would be on the editorial page, not on the comics page. And Garfield is based on President James Garfield! I'll give you a +1 to offset whoever gave you a -1.

Few people realize that Pogo was actually based on Churchill. Fun fact; Marmaduke is actually a thinly fictionalized chronicle of Abraham Lincoln's life and political career. SPOILER ALERT: The final comic is going to be a MAJOR downer.

Here's a thread on Cyclone Fanatic about Dan Mac and your recruiting class in general. I thought you guys might be interested in some opinions. http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/general-college-sports/113519-mccarneys-first-recruiting-class.html

Thanks for the kind words I enjoy hanging out here and contributing when I can. This is a great message board and I can't wait for the football season to get underway...

But unfortunately none of our players are Hungarian

Don't worry, Scrappy is always there!

Actually, that was Walt Kelly's Pogo comic strip. The actual quote is "We have met the enemy and he is us". But, I see your point.

on a side note...futile as it was...I was pulling for Iowa St against Kansas this weekend.

Yellow Snot is quickly beooming one of my favorite posters. Appreciate you, man.

My $.02 on this topic is that both camps are correct here. Denton is so close to DFW that it isn't a big deal to go down to the Metroplex for the weekend. Denton doesn't have the entertainment that the Metroplex offers, so that is an obvious pull. College Station, although about an hour and a half from Houston, is still pretty much its own town--not to mention the need for Aggies to stay amongst themselves. In Austin, the entertainment options are very strong (live music, bars, outdoor activites, etc.), so their students usually stay. The biggest difference between those schools and ours is the decades-old advantage that they have in being "cool" to be at. And it is my experience, as well, that more financially-advantaged students attend either A&M or UT than UNT or other smaller state schools in Texas. But that has a lot to do with status and their academic reputations. Both are Tier One and have been for many years, which generally makes employers very eager to hire their graduates, especially in the engineering, science, and business areas, which is where the big-monied alums normally come from. Once someone graduates from one of those schools, often their children will only go to one of those schools when they get ready for school. Not saying that this doesn't happen at UNT, because we know it has happened, but the reality is that UT and A&M (and now to some degree, Tech) have really created family legacies that have paid off greatly for those schools.

I'll be in my seats with my bride for all the games and we will then head to Hot Springs for the tourney. I BELIEVE in the Mean Green. And, by the way...anyone who thinks George O is selfish needs to find a good psychologist or analyst with a couch ASDAP!

Let's see...I attended UNT for 8 years, and my wife has worked two periods of time at UNT...including currently...and I have spoken with folks in the administration at UNT that I have known for many years about this very topic. So, I repeat and not just from "observation", you may be surprised at the percentage of students at UNT who do receive parental and other family support. UNT students have a much higher socio-economic level than you seem to think. Don't confuse working part-time for spending money and other items and paying for some of one's college education (as I certainly did) with getting little/no parental support. It is a tired old stereotype that you are trying to keep alive. And, one that does UNT no service...just like the one that keeps the ruse alive that UNT is just a commuter school. Sometimes it is hard to separate fact from fiction if one doesn't do the research. I am not saying that many students are not "on their own" at UNT...and at UT and TX A&M for that matter. What I am saying is that many more students than you seem to "observe"...and you are not alone in this false observation...do get support from home or other places such as grants and scholarships. Just because one is not from Southlake or Highland Park as you cite does not mean that they are "on their own" with college expenses. I would guess that any college might have more students from Euless or East Plano or the like than from the small burbs of Highland park and Southlake. And, just what makes you think that students from Euless and/or East Plano don't get outside support from home or elsewhere? There is great benefit to be gained in working hard to put oneself through college, and everyone in that category should be congratulated for the diligence and hard work. But, there is a very large percentage of undergrads (grad students don't count in this discussion in my opinion...grad students are another animal all together) at UNT getting help, just as there is a large percentage of undergrads at UT and TX A&M who get help and a good number who don't. Why this is a problem for some folks to sort out is beyond me...there is no shame or crime either way. It is just that people seem to want to make UNT out to be a university full of students who have to pay their full way through school, and that is simply not the case. This is not a good vs bad issue. However one gets to UNT is a good thing because UNT provides a quality education at a reasonable price...not the least expensive in Texas, but certainly not the most expensive. Anyway, time for me to leave this discussion. I don't want the truth to get in the way of any one's feelings. Good grief!

Yeah, this is a reasonable assumption. But, i disagree. I don't think this is the case for the vast majority of students. I know of some that it is the case... but, not most.

Yes, and they seem to gravitate to fan websites!

I prefer to stay focused on the Big Picture and that's building the program. If anything is overrated, it's having a bunch of seniors on a ball club. Is it possible that we overachieved in years past or guys peaked? Becoming the target and/or not slipping up on anyone. Maybe hitting a wall due to a lack of depth while playing heavy minutes. I really don't care how many games this team wins in any given year or whether or not we win the conference. (Been there, done that) My concern is if the program is getting better. Unlike football, the Sunbelt champs will always get a 14, 15 or 16th seed. This will ensure we play a top 20 team (out of over 300) The odds, at this time, are not great of beating a top 20 team. In football, the Sunbelt champ will play a 3rd or 4th place team from another mid-major conference or slightly above. The chances of a bowl victory are much better in football for the Sunbelt champs (playing a top 60 team) For us to continue to get better each year, we need better players. TT maybe the only guy on this team that would start for a Top 30 - 40 team. So why should we expect them to beat one of these teams in the NCAA tournament? On paper, does it look like we are bringing in better talent? I say yes. We are a perimeter team without a threat down low. This must be addressed! Geore Odufawa has played out of position, out of necessity, the whole season. One of our better players is a 5-9 shooting guard playing point guard. As Dan MacCarney would say, "Are You Kidding Me"? Should we look for a 5-9 guard to carry us each game? In my opinion, we have a few more guys that should not even be playing in the Sunbelt. We are a .500 team because we can easily lose to any team just like we can beat any team. Is help on the way? I think so. Within the past 2-3 years, JJ has done a much better job in getting the attention of top recruits. Most have not signed but we appear to be in the game. The program has taken longer than I would have liked but I see an upgrade in who we go after. Conversely, we've signed a few that I did not understand. I know there are all types of fans in each program. I personally like to see recruits play (football and basketball) while they are still in high school. I also try to attend as many of our games as possible. Additionally, our opponents. As such, I don't have to rely on what others have to say, what I read or what some recruiting service said. I can not be disapointed in this team or believe they are overrated or underrated. This team has not quit. I have never felt that we needed to tear up JJ contract for a better one or worried that he may leave. Overall, I like the direction of the program; whether we win 24, 22, 20 or 18. Don't understand why the expectations are so much higher for the basketball team than football. When we recruit a team of highly sought players and/or obtain a top 20 ranking, my expectations for the team will increase.

I think we will start to pull 1 or 2 Iowa kids each year in our recruiting class.I also hope DMac can set up a home & home w/ Iowa State in the future

Thanks for the link.

Don't believe the hype, man. 2 sides to every story. That hurtful "Jews control the media" stuff all started with the Old Testament. Talk about your media bias...

Alright, the top 1% paid 38.02% of all federal taxes, earning 20.00% of all income and had an average tax rate of 23.27%. Also, your referral to "wages" doesn't hold in this analysis as the income figures I quote are AGI...which include wages, dividends, interest, etc. Thus the average tax rate includes all of those income items and the wealthy STILL pay much more than any other income group. To your other point, the income split point for the top 5% is $160K, for the top 1% it is $380K. As for the federal debt (and deficit), the important number is not the nominal amount, i.e. $13 Trillion. That amount in and of itself is meaningless. The important figures are debt (and deficit) as a % of GDP, which are both going in the wrong direction. IMHO, the first step to address this is the reduction in the size and scope of the federal government and a corresponding reduction in federal spending. Functions such as the Dept of Education should be turned over to the states, while the post office, AMTRAC, FNMA and FHLMC should be privatized. Furthermore, the health and pension benefits provided to public sector union members needs to be overhauled, with a move towards defined contribution retirement plans and more member contributions for health benefits. The second step involves increasing economic growth, starting with an overhaul of the corporate tax structure. We currently have the second highest corporate tax rate in the developed world (behind only Japan) and it is a barrier to growth.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704422204576130300992126630.html

We need to drastically cut soending, especially entitlement programs. Adding arguably the largest entitlement program in this nation's history (health care) while we are essentially broke is a recipe for disaster. Problem is, very few politicians have the guys to do this. There has been an organized effort to vilify the tea party because they SAY they want to do this (let's see If they follow through, I kinda doubt it). They want to keep their position of power and influence and the perks that come with it. I think it all cones down to whether you believe the government is the answer or if the private sector is the answer. This is the biggest difference between a liberal and a conservative. Calling for outrageous taxes on the rich is simply class warfare and isn't a solution to this problem. And I actually partially agree with CBL (again? Sure sign of the apocalypse). The economy is cyclical, BUT the government does influence if with it's policies. Massive spending increases along with increased taxes is a sure recipe to extend a recession. The best thing a government can do is make it as easy as possible for businesses to reinvest and get the hell out the way.

He brings himself into the discussion by constantly being in the media trying to rewrite his legacy. 2011 or 2026, he will still be seen as one of the worst presidents of the 20th century.

To be honest, I don't understand what this means: "cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century." Does this mean students will not be studying about Thomas Jefferson? Or not learning about the Declaration of Independence and its relation to the American Revolution? I highly doubt either of these is the case. Anyway, from the rest of the article . . . I don't see any of this as related to the facts of history, but to the viewpoint with which it is approached. Obviously, if it is presented from a conservative viewpoint, liberals will disagree with it. When it's presented from a liberal viewpoint, conservatives disagree with it. Again, I'm not sure what was meant by the Jefferson thing, but I see new facts being brought up that were not apparently being addressed in history classes ("portions of history" that had previously been "deleted"?).

Care to give an example? Or are you just making #@! up as you go?

Communist.

I'm intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

You wish. Trade Socially Conservative Evangelical Christian Crazies for Socially Conservative Mormon Crazies? Really, there's not much difference. Both insist on less government, unless it helps push the moral agenda of their particular invisible sky wizard. And, ya know, making sh*t up as they go when it comes to history and science...

I am pretty sure we have/had more beds than that number. I am confident it is over 6000.

I really think you have a misconception here as the weekend exodus ebbs and flows with the time of year and the campus weekend activities. Those drives home decrease as the undergrads move up in class. I witnessed this first hand as we all did as students, but it was really driven home to me when I taught as a grad assistant at Oklahoma State. The first semester freshmen seemed to always go home as there were "boyfriends and girlfriends" and just lots of friends still at home. But as they moved up to sophomores and beyond that exodus seemed to reduce greatly.

I bet it was that mic-on Denver guy's fault. I hope he loses a leg, too.

Dang you Mubarak!

I actually couldn't fight through the lead in to make it to the interview. That woman can not write.

US involvement in world affairs abroad isn't always altruistic or done in the best interest of the countries we "help". Also, I've broken my number one internet rule- "Never get involved in political debates", so I'll now bow out gracefully. Good things to everyone!

OUCH!!! I'd hate to be McCarney's wife when he finds out Lance is gone...